True Temper's new "AMT" Dynamic Gold iron shafts

[Kylekoz17]

[quote name='dunn' timestamp='1445115960' post='12470074']
Ap2,cb,mb come stock with AMT I thought
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They do, but the tour issue band is $15 extra per shaft he's saying

[TitleistHOG]

Great news.....

[ladahl]

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Great news.....
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What's great news?

[Quickfire14]

[quote name='Kylekoz17' timestamp='1445119337' post='12470236'][quote name='dunn' timestamp='1445115960' post='12470074']
Ap2,cb,mb come stock with AMT I thought
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They do, but the tour issue band is $15 extra per shaft he's saying[/quote]

Correct. The AMT will be stock, dynamic gold, kbs tour, and Nippon 1150 will all be no up charge. However, here is the pricing for some of the up charge shafts (all are per club)
Tour Issue AMT $15
Tour Issue DG $15
Tour issue DG Black Onyx $15
Project X $15
PXi $15
C Taper $22.50
Nippon Modus $22.50

[TitleistHOG]

Great news.....

[quietninja72]

First round or two with these in the bag and the long irons are stupid easy to hit. I've always been fitted in to DG but had problems swinging the long irons. There were 3 par 5s I played today where I was in the grey area between a 4 iron or a choked up 3 hybrid and I chose to hit the 4 since I had so much confidence in it. Definitely would recommend this shaft for anyone who likes the original DG but struggled with longer irons

[Mat905s]

Has anyone tried hard-stepping these so far? I know it would slightly negate the effects of the ascending mass system (3 grams is not much anyway in my opinion) but I'm curious as to the effect compare to a standard dynamic gold (flex wise)?
I'm playing X7 soft step once and I'd like the AMT to play similar to my current set so I guess I'd need to hard step them at least once? I just want to switch away from the X7 because they are too hard to find nowadays especially the 41'' and 40.5'' shafts...
What do you guys think?
Thanks

[ladahl]

I've bounced this idea off a few guys on the board, but here it goes:

I am ordering my new irons with Tour Issue X100 DG SS 1X, I also just ordered a set of Tour Issue DL XP X100's.

I'm thinking about installing soft-stepped XP in the longer irons . Thoughts?

XP's 5,6,7,8
DG's 9,P,G,S,L

[CBRADGO]

If anyone doesn't like the AMT's I have a set of KBS C Taper X's I'm looking to trade. AMT's are perfect for me, CT's just require too much to work for me to feel comfortable. AMT's are tough to come by right now as pulls so I figure here is as good a place as any to start...

[campion]

PFC dealers should have them early to mid November

[CBRADGO]

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PFC dealers should have them early to mid November
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Hallelujah!!!

[mstryker46]

Can't wait to try these out. I use a stiff in my KBS tour shafts so would I be an s300 or s400?

[CBRADGO]

S300 I would guess...

[2012BFT]

[quote name='Airamann' timestamp='1445884024' post='12508876']
Can't wait to try these out. I use a stiff in my KBS tour shafts so would I be an s300 or s400?
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I made the same change from KBS Tours and went S300... The regular S300 are already 10grams heavier throughout the set (non AMT) so the S400 would just weigh even more.

[progolferv1]

This might be a dumb question. So help me understand this:


After reading s400s are stiffer then s300, because the weight of the shaft is greater in the s400. So how is it these shafts stay close in flex, when they change from 112g to 130g in the same irons.

Reason I am asking, is because I play x100 ss in my ap2. I am about to order a new set of 716 and would like to play the same x100ss, but I am a little worried about the 112g 4 iron. So I am thinking about ordering s400 Hs or just s400.

[Aston55]

I've played both the x100 and the s400s. I prefer the heavier weight and softer flex.

After playing standard s400s I had the same question if the long irons would have less stiffness due to the lighter weight. However the amts are excellent in maintaining the same stiffness as far as I can tell. Definitely feel lighter but plays at same stiffness

[Luke7]

[quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445896984' post='12509904']
This might be a dumb question. So help me understand this:


After reading s400s are stiffer then s300, because the weight of the shaft is greater in the s400. So how is it these shafts stay close in flex, when they change from 112g to 130g in the same irons.

Reason I am asking, is because I play x100 ss in my ap2. I am about to order a new set of 716 and would like to play the same x100ss, but I am a little worried about the 112g 4 iron. So I am thinking about ordering s400 Hs or just s400.
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How heavy they are doesn't change the flex, it just changes the speed which you can swing them slightly. Just like how an 80 gram X flex shaft isn't any more stiff than a 60 gram X flex shaft.

[progolferv1]

I[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1445897573' post='12509956']
[quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445896984' post='12509904']
This might be a dumb question. So help me understand this:


After reading s400s are stiffer then s300, because the weight of the shaft is greater in the s400. So how is it these shafts stay close in flex, when they change from 112g to 130g in the same irons.

Reason I am asking, is because I play x100 ss in my ap2. I am about to order a new set of 716 and would like to play the same x100ss, but I am a little worried about the 112g 4 iron. So I am thinking about ordering s400 Hs or just s400.
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How heavy they are doesn't change the flex, it just changes the speed which you can swing them slightly. Just like how an 80 gram X flex shaft isn't any more stiff than a 60 gram X flex shaft.
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I agree with you but, if the S400 and the s300 are the same step pattern, then why do the play stiffer then the s300?

[Luke7]

[quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445899372' post='12510072']
I[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1445897573' post='12509956']
[quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445896984' post='12509904']
This might be a dumb question. So help me understand this:


After reading s400s are stiffer then s300, because the weight of the shaft is greater in the s400. So how is it these shafts stay close in flex, when they change from 112g to 130g in the same irons.

Reason I am asking, is because I play x100 ss in my ap2. I am about to order a new set of 716 and would like to play the same x100ss, but I am a little worried about the 112g 4 iron. So I am thinking about ordering s400 Hs or just s400.
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How heavy they are doesn't change the flex, it just changes the speed which you can swing them slightly. Just like how an 80 gram X flex shaft isn't any more stiff than a 60 gram X flex shaft.
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I agree with you but, if the S400 and the s300 are the same step pattern, then why do the play stiffer then the s300?
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Because they're heavier so you swing slightly slower making them play stiffer, but they're actually the same flex. TT correct me if I'm wrong here.

[appilags]

[quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445896984' post='12509904']This might be a dumb question. So help me understand this:


After reading s400s are stiffer then s300, because the weight of the shaft is greater in the s400. So how is it these shafts stay close in flex, when they change from 112g to 130g in the same irons.

Reason I am asking, is because I play x100 ss in my ap2. I am about to order a new set of 716 and would like to play the same x100ss, but I am a little worried about the 112g 4 iron. So I am thinking about ordering s400 Hs or just s400.[/quote]

The physical characteristics that determine stiffness of a shaft at a given point along its length are tube diameter, wall thickness and the material properties. By managing these three factors you can build shafts that have the same flex profile, but get progressively lighter.

[jylos]

I can tell you the difference between regular S300 and AMT X100 in long (3-4) irons. CPM machine said they have similar flex. However, when I hit both I felt they were totally different. AMT X100 has more of a regular X100 feeling with lightness. There is no loose feeling at impact which is very noticable in S300 shaft. The reason both shafts have similar CPM numbers is that the butt section of the regular S300 shaft has thicker wall with smaller diameter compared to AMT X100 shaft which has thinner wall with larger diameter.

[Ti-Cip]

will there be tour issue amt s400/ x100 avail soon???

[Flagrant]

I ordered my ap2's, there was no s400 available, I wanted to go with the s400 being that I use and love them in my wedges. I think there might be a tour issue s400 available in the Amt, but that they be further down the road.

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='Flagrant' timestamp='1445928840' post='12511864']
I ordered my ap2's, there was no s400 available, I wanted to go with the s400 being that I use and love them in my wedges. I think there might be a tour issue s400 available in the Amt, but that they be further down the road.
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Custom options say different.

http://media.titleist.com/images/titleist/files/US/Titleist-Custom-Club-Options/?_ga=1.55486059.1104663736.1445093623

Pg. 39

[Stuart_G]

[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1445899535' post='12510082']
[quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445899372' post='12510072']
I[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1445897573' post='12509956']
[quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445896984' post='12509904']
This might be a dumb question. So help me understand this:


After reading s400s are stiffer then s300, because the weight of the shaft is greater in the s400. So how is it these shafts stay close in flex, when they change from 112g to 130g in the same irons.

Reason I am asking, is because I play x100 ss in my ap2. I am about to order a new set of 716 and would like to play the same x100ss, but I am a little worried about the 112g 4 iron. So I am thinking about ordering s400 Hs or just s400.
[/quote]

How heavy they are doesn't change the flex, it just changes the speed which you can swing them slightly. Just like how an 80 gram X flex shaft isn't any more stiff than a 60 gram X flex shaft.
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I agree with you but, if the S400 and the s300 are the same step pattern, then why do the play stiffer then the s300?
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Because they're heavier so you swing slightly slower making them play stiffer, but they're actually the same flex. TT correct me if I'm wrong here.
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Not only are they the same flex - but I believe they are manufactured the exact same way. I was told by a TT rep/certified fitter that they sort out the production runs by weight and the ones that come out heavier get to be s400's, the ones that come out lighter get to be s200's, and the ones in the middle are s300's. To determine why one might seem to play stiffer than the other, we'd really need to know all the specs of the two clubs used to do the comparison. Were the lengths identical, head weight the same or different, BBTG and bore depth of the heads were they both parallel or taper tipped, same grip, etc.. ? Also just as the weight can vary in the production run, so can the flex.

[Obsessed]

I'm having a set installed now - S400, soft stepped.

will let you know how it feels.

I'm currently playing KBS stiff.

[aswo3332]

Sorry if I missed it, but are the 9 iron and PW both 130, or is it PW=130 and 9i=127?

[progolferv1]

[quote name='aswo3332' timestamp='1445979065' post='12514788']
Sorry if I missed it, but are the 9 iron and PW both 130, or is it PW=130 and 9i=127?
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both the same

[appilags]

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[aswo3332]

[quote name='appilags' timestamp='1446020505' post='12517166'][quote name='progolferv1' timestamp='1445979441' post='12514822'][quote name='aswo3332' timestamp='1445979065' post='12514788']
Sorry if I missed it, but are the 9 iron and PW both 130, or is it PW=130 and 9i=127?
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both the same[/quote]
PW is 130g, 9 is 127.[/quote]

Are you sure? Titleist lists the weight range as 112-130. If the 9 iron did decrease 3g, it would be 109-130 for the 3-pw.