Headcovers? Honestly? Headcovers?!

[Ironmaster Oddities]

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I know we are way off topic here now but this really started to intrege me as I know my grandfather has about a gazillion marbles from way back when. How does one determine value?

Also, ran across this:

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Big apple boy,
I think that guy on eBay is overusing medical marijuana. If not, I just saw a significant increase in the value of my own collection.
Seriously, though, PM me if you want more information. I will also help you with your grandpa's marbles if you email me some photos.
Uncle Bob

[stevemcgee99]

I don't see why Scotty Cameron stuff is so valuable. It's just a bunch of copies of older clubs.

[Nomad Golfer]

Had a game yesterday. Couple in front of me had matching sets with matching headcovers on everything. Their M.O. was to clean clubs before and after each shot, and clean the ball after putting.

I'm ok with that, even when they cleaned the headcovers and wiped down the bags and carts after the round. Call me suspicious of OCD.

[jonnygrouville]

Sounds like it would take a while. Berks.

 

[Kirasdad]

I have a crap load of headcovers. More covers than clubs probably. OMG I have to run out the garage and check on the inventory. Maybe my blue and pink Northwestern Sandra Haynie 3 wood cover is worth a freaking fortune!

Any takers!

I'll start the bidding at 999.00 US!

Do I hear a thousand!?

[Fellaheen51]

I have a crap load of headcovers. More covers than clubs probably. OMG I have to run out the garage and check on the inventory. Maybe my blue and pink Northwestern Sandra Haynie 3 wood cover is worth a freaking fortune!

Any takers!

I'll start the bidding at 999.00 US!

Do I hear a thousand!?

 

Bought a Masters headcover for a $1 recently. Current bid now stands at $10. 10X ROI. What to get with the profits?

 

I love headcovers. Especially the old knitted ones with the fuzzy poms. And the old school, leather looking ones with the big numbers. One can never have to many of them.

 

But nary an iron one to be found anywhere.

[Nomad Golfer]

I have a crap load of headcovers. More covers than clubs probably. OMG I have to run out the garage and check on the inventory. Maybe my blue and pink Northwestern Sandra Haynie 3 wood cover is worth a freaking fortune!

Any takers!

I'll start the bidding at 999.00 US!

Do I hear a thousand!?

 

Bought a Masters headcover for a $1 recently. Current bid now stands at $10. 10X ROI. What to get with the profits?

 

I love headcovers. Especially the old knitted ones with the fuzzy poms. And the old school, leather looking ones with the big numbers. One can never have to many of them.

 

But nary an iron one to be found anywhere.

I go around the local charity shops that have golf gear and look for woods headcovers (amongst other things), seen those old leather ones with the letters in XXL. They are usually red and joined with leather cord. The pompom ones not so easy to find but have still seen a few. My SIL knits woollen moccasins and I'm getting her to make me a couple of covers over the winter. My current pompom head covers are synthetic and not as good, they slide off pretty easily tho. Most golf clubs have a bin with lost covers out in the locker room, and if one asks at the pro shop they will usually say ok.

[BIG STU]

Well I thought I had saw it all--- Until last weekend. I was playing in a company scramble and one of my partners had believe it or not Crown Royal bags for head covers. They do have different size bags too!! He told me what the hell? he had plenty of them. I have actually in the past see people with athletic socks for head covers you know the ones they used to make with different colored stripes on them. New use for Crown Royal bags

[Juice__25]

Well I thought I had saw it all--- Until last weekend. I was playing in a company scramble and one of my partners had believe it or not Crown Royal bags for head covers. They do have different size bags too!! He told me what the hell? he had plenty of them. I have actually in the past see people with athletic socks for head covers you know the ones they used to make with different colored stripes on them. New use for Crown Royal bags

 

Yeah. I've seen them used for everything. My cousin has a quilt made out of CR bags. I just use them for golf balls and tees. Lol.

[augustgolf]

CR bag = ditty bag

 

Tees, keys, jewelry, etc

[BIG STU]

CR bag = ditty bag

 

Tees, keys, jewelry, etc

I used to drink the stuff so I still have some of my own bags and yes I use them for ditty bags so to speak.

[HoganApexBlades]

CR bag = ditty bag

 

Tees, keys, jewelry, etc

 

Augie,

 

Did the same for many, many years also.

[augustgolf]

We have a very large, week-long event here called "Azalea Festival". Used to be a tour stop during/near festival time, but that's anothef story.

 

During the festival week, there is this big party called "the Garden Party"...BIG!!!

 

Open bar for about 5 hours, and cases & cases of Crown.

 

Would acquire 50+ bags every year, as a volunteer bartender. Gave them to others for whatever they wanted to use them for. Most used them just like me.

 

We have a very large, week-long event here called "Azalea Festival". Used to be a tour stop during/near festival time, but that's another story.

 

During the festival week, there is this big party called "the Garden Party"...BIG!!!

 

Open bar for about 5 hours, and cases & cases of Crown.

 

Would acquire 50+ bags every year, as a volunteer bartender. Gave them to others for whatever they wanted to use them for. Most used them just like me.

[jsanderso]

Back in elementary school all the cool kids would keep their marbles in CR bags.

[BIG STU]

Back in elementary school all the cool kids would keep their marbles in CR bags.

Is that a Par Ace Karsten 1 clone in your Avaitar?? If it is I can tell you some interesting stuff about the Par Ace line of equipment

[jsanderso]

Back in elementary school all the cool kids would keep their marbles in CR bags.

Is that a Par Ace Karsten 1 clone in your Avaitar?? If it is I can tell you some interesting stuff about the Par Ace line of equipment

It is! I posted some pics of the bag up in the main classic forum in the Peerless thread in reply to an old post of yours. Rarely see much about these things.

 

I just had a lesson today and no one, even the club fitter, tried to sell me a new set. He just checked to see they still fit me, and marvelled at how the TrueTemper Gold shafts were so much stiffer back 30 years ago. (I did get them regripped from the old Lamkin Silhouettes)

[BIG STU]

Ok here is the story of Par Ace as I remember it.

That company was started in the 70s by a guy named Jack Pace who we called Jerry. Now Jerry's uncle owned the golf course that my old man ran. In fact Jerry worked under my old man for a while. He left there and went to work as the district rep for Ram and was really successful. He branched out and started Par Ace. He was pretty smart. The first Karsten 1s he had cloned were real close to the real thing and Ping sued him but Ping lost somehow. That set you have in the picture are the 2nd generation ones. The emblem in the middle was a sort of compromise. He also had some company overseas that made gloves with the Par Ace emblem on them. He also cloned putters. If you can find a Par Ace 8802 clone that is a good putter. I somewhat credit him for getting the whole clone business started. They also cloned the popular Armour 845 CB irons. I built a bunch of the 845 clones back in the day. When I was in that area I used to buy all of my shafts and grips from them. I do not know if Jerry is still living If he is he would have to be in his late 70s or mid 80s. The last I heard his sons were still running the business. All of this was in Charlotte NC

[jsanderso]

That's fantastic information, thanks Stu! I never knew much about them except they were my first adult full set (migrating from a Ram junior set) and they were an excellent compromise between quality and price (my dad being a truck driver/warehouse super at the time money was never raining on us). I had always assumed they were from Asia since that is where most cloned products seem to be made.

 

They still hit pretty well but are probably a couple of clubs behind current in loft I would guess.

[jsanderso]

Not to spam my pictures but here is most of my bag, still 80s vintage. I broke the driver, an original Burner with the "speed dimples" on the head, at the range a couple of years ago and wound up replacing it with a 2009. Top Flight XL metal woods, Northwestern putter.

(edit: to keep on topic, I cover the metal woods with equally vintage knitted headcovers with big pom poms)

[BIG STU]

That's fantastic information, thanks Stu! I never knew much about them except they were my first adult full set (migrating from a Ram junior set) and they were an excellent compromise between quality and price (my dad being a truck driver/warehouse super at the time money was never raining on us). I had always assumed they were from Asia since that is where most cloned products seem to be made.

 

They still hit pretty well but are probably a couple of clubs behind current in loft I would guess.

I was looking at your other post man those things are in great shape. Looks like they rolled off The Plaza in Charlotte (where JPG was located) yesterday. The lofts are the same as the Karsten 1s. The jacked loft revolution started in the late 80s with the Tommy Armour 845s which as I pointed out he cloned too. Yep back in the day real Pings were the most expensive clubs you could buy unless you had one of the big companies build you a custom grind set of blades. We sold many sets of those clone Pings at our course and quite a few sets were sold overall in the Carolinas. What amazes me is that a set actually made it and survives in Calgary Alberta Canada

[jsanderso]

They were purchased in Grand Rapids, Michigan, for what its worth. They have traveled, and were last played in Riverside, California.

[jsanderso]

The lofts are the same as the Karsten 1s.

Might you recall/have stats for what those were 3-W? I'm trying to figure out any gapping issues I might have and, alas, Ping has wiped the stats of the old sets from their web site.

 

What I have been able to find suggests:

3 -- 21.5*

4 -- 25*

5 -- 28.5

6 -- 32*

7 -- 36*

8 -- 40

9 -- 45*

W -- 50.5*

 

I'm thinking I should probably get a 56* and maybe a 60* wedge

 

(Mods, feel free to cut this Par Ace derail to its own thread)

[weeicemon]

Ok here is the story of Par Ace as I remember it.

That company was started in the 70s by a guy named Jack Pace who we called Jerry. Now Jerry's uncle owned the golf course that my old man ran. In fact Jerry worked under my old man for a while. He left there and went to work as the district rep for Ram and was really successful. He branched out and started Par Ace. He was pretty smart. The first Karsten 1s he had cloned were real close to the real thing and Ping sued him but Ping lost somehow. That set you have in the picture are the 2nd generation ones. The emblem in the middle was a sort of compromise. He also had some company overseas that made gloves with the Par Ace emblem on them. He also cloned putters. If you can find a Par Ace 8802 clone that is a good putter. I somewhat credit him for getting the whole clone business started. They also cloned the popular Armour 845 CB irons. I built a bunch of the 845 clones back in the day. When I was in that area I used to buy all of my shafts and grips from them. I do not know if Jerry is still living If he is he would have to be in his late 70s or mid 80s. The last I heard his sons were still running the business. All of this was in Charlotte NC

 

Stu:

 

I now live just south of Charlotte, across the South Carolina state line. I rememeber Jack Pace Golf from my PGA professional days in West Virginia. If I remember correctly, they sold mostly component heads, shafts, grips, and club repair supplies. Seems like they were located on Shamrock Drive in Charlotte.

[fawley]

Ego gratification Jonny. The need to impress others. What good are these uber expensive HC if no one notices them? Not really that difficult to find a whole lot of pretentiousness in golfdom. But it's their dime(s), they can squander them however they choose.

 

exactly AMEN and AMEN...I don't care if you have a 2500 scotty if you can't putt it don't mean ****

 

This mindset cracks me up.

 

I don't understand / can't afford / don't like something other people spend their money on, therefore the only possible reason they buy those things must be to impress other people.

 

How the h3ll would you know why they buy something? Maybe they just like Scotty head covers, saved up to buy one, and couldn't care less what you think. Maybe they're doing well enough financially that dropping a few hundred on a head cover makes zero difference to their life. Or any one of a hundred other reasons.

 

Holding yourself out as the arbiter of why someone bought something, and assigning a reason to that purchase says a lot more about you than it does about them.

 

 

 

[Tumbleweed_1968]

I wash my $5000 putter cover in my fur-lined sink, and think nothing of it...

[VNutz]

I wash my $5000 putter cover in my fur-lined sink, and think nothing of it...

 

You do it yourself?? Pfft :nono:

[TimV]

:tongue: :rofl: :tongue:

[Tumbleweed_1968]

I knew someone would take that the wrong way....

[Fellaheen51]

Baaaawaaaahaaa! Ha!

 

Is acquiring multiple of multiples golf clubs "dumb stuff"? Asking for a friend.

[Tumbleweed_1968]

I would tell your friend that it's only dumb to acquire toasters on sticks when there is so much natural beauty just waiting to be harvested in sheds, basements, and thrift stores all across the world. It's where environmentally friendly golf begins! We are saving the planet!

 

Well, at least your friend is...