How do you get rid of the flick/flip instinct? POST 120-UPDATE

[Jasonic]

The way I understand it, acceleration is what keeps the wrist c0ck in the first place. It's the decel of the arms that release the angle, even in a good swing. When the arms trail, the ability to accelerate the arms is lost, so therfor so is the wrist angle.

 

I can't do anything but 100% agree with TB. I have an arm overrun ans suffer from the exact same thing. The end result, but not the cause, is a bottom end flip.

You don't have to accelerate the hands to keep the wrist c0ck if you're able to keep or delay the shoulders, etc. back. If from the top you move the shoulders, arms or hands, yes you have to accelerate to keep the hands ahead of the clubhead, thereby keeping the wrist c0ck. Sort of like dragging the handle from the top

 

This is a recipe for stuck/flip. Dragging the handle is a bad thought as is getting he hips ahead of the arms.

[mikpga]

Half Swings finishing with both ARMS STRAIGHT...

 

Keep the shoulders turning in a CIRCLE...

 

If you can finish your half swings with both ARMS STRAIGHT, then do less than half swings until you are ABLE...

 

Repeat, and repeat again...

 

Keep the shoulders turning in a CIRCLE through and beyond...

 

[martynbirch]

Able to now get in a significantly better impact position by bringing in just two swing thoughts. This stems from a lesson I had with Dan Whittaker last year and is mentioned in a thread I created recently about super early extending in the backswing.

 

In my back swing I over rotate, over swing and lose my posture through super early extending. This of course increases the swing radius as I stand up and as others have said the brain won't let me miss the ball so in order to hit the ball the club is released early and flicks at the ball adding loft etc.

 

If my intention is to 'stack down' in the backswing and lose height, the over rotation, over swing and early extension disappears. Then in the downswing my intention is to lose more height (actually don't but feel not real etc) which allows hands forward and shaft lean which in 4 years of playing this game I have never had. Working well in my net but need to visit the range next week to see the ball flight. This is not a pursuit for a cosmetic swing but is all about improving consistency and getting rid of high spinny ball flight and a two way miss!

 

Looking at a lot of pro swings most, if not all lose height on the backswing it seems and then maintain this to impact.

[bruinsPATSirish]

I recently had lesson 3 with a coach and mentioned that at lesson 2 I had seen on the video of my swing how early I was losing the angles.

 

We worked on it and he showed me statically what impact position should be like - body position, hands relative to the ball etc.

 

My it felt weird but I went ahead and hit balls.

 

My hands were much further forward at impact, not ideal but I could see the difference on video. I was hitting the ball OK and could see the results on the flightscope (or whatever the technology was)

 

However even though I could see the results, even though I could feel the swing and know the result was OK something weird was happening.

 

In every swing the internal feedback as I came to impact was 'you can't hit the ball from here'.

 

Even though I could and I was hitting the ball in this new way this new experience was so in conflict with what I had done the empirical evidence could not change the map I had of what was necessary to hit the ball the way I had always done.

 

The mind is a magnificent hindrance on great golf. It's amazingly frustrating how difficult we can make things for ourselves.

[hoselrocketman]

Here's the P6 you want:

 

 

Shankappotomus coming soon?

[PutterKilledTheDream]

Here's the P6 you want:

 

 

Shankappotomus coming soon?

No way. Mechanically-advantaged push draws.