RAM FX2 Forged Irons Loft and Lie Specs

[crazygolfnut]

Does anyone have the original specs (loft and lie) for the RAM FX2 Forged irons? Thanks

[Shallowface]

> @crazygolfnut said:

> Does anyone have the original specs (loft and lie) for the RAM FX2 Forged irons? Thanks

 

I have a number of Ram catalogs from that era, but they didn't put those specs in them as other companies often did.

[crazygolfnut]

> @Shallowface said:

> > @crazygolfnut said:

> > Does anyone have the original specs (loft and lie) for the RAM FX2 Forged irons? Thanks

>

> I have a number of Ram catalogs from that era, but they didn't put those specs in them as other companies often did.

 

Thanks. I have a friend that still plays them and wants to check them against original specs.

[Dan Drake]

Paging @NRJyzr

[NRJyzr]

Afraid I don't have info on the various Ram CB's of that era. I'm hoping one of our catalog saving brothers might see this....

[crazygolfnut]

> @NRJyzr said:

> Afraid I don't have info on the various Ram CB's of that era. I'm hoping one of our catalog saving brothers might see this....

 

Thanks. I appreciate your effort. Hoping that someone may have the numbers.

[NRJyzr]

@crazygolfnut

Did another Google search, ran across this post from another golf forum, about 13 years ago. As a caveat, I think he was referring to the cast FX set from the late 90s.

 

I would be inclined to think the FX2 Forged might be 21 24 27 for 3i thru 5i, and 4* from there to a 47* PW (which are the specs for the FX Nickels, FWIW). If you have access to a golf shop with a loft and lie machine, it might be worth checking one of the irons from 5-9, with one eye towards how the bounce and offset look, compared to that loft result.

 

Here's that post I found:

_"I used to have a set of the Ram FX. Here were the lofts on those. 3i - 20* 4i - 23* 5i - 26* 6i - 30* 7i - 34* 8i - 38* 9i - 42* P - 46* G - 50* S - 55* L - 60* "_

 

[NRJyzr]

Adding to the previous post, digging thru old Usenet, I found a guy who had bent his super weak, or he was off by one club. His lofts suggested a 48* PW, with either a 21* or 20* 3 iron.

[crazygolfnut]

Thanks for the info. I will pass it on.

[UlfBane]

On 8/20/2019 at 9:15 PM, NRJyzr said:

@crazygolfnut

Did another Google search, ran across this post from another golf forum, about 13 years ago. As a caveat, I think he was referring to the cast FX set from the late 90s.

 

I would be inclined to think the FX2 Forged might be 21 24 27 for 3i thru 5i, and 4* from there to a 47* PW (which are the specs for the FX Nickels, FWIW). If you have access to a golf shop with a loft and lie machine, it might be worth checking one of the irons from 5-9, with one eye towards how the bounce and offset look, compared to that loft result.

 

Here's that post I found:

_"I used to have a set of the Ram FX. Here were the lofts on those. 3i - 20* 4i - 23* 5i - 26* 6i - 30* 7i - 34* 8i - 38* 9i - 42* P - 46* G - 50* S - 55* L - 60* "_

 

First off, we must keep in mind that the FX name was continued after RAM's acquisition by Tommy Armour, so the posts of stronger lofted clubs one finds refer to later sets. I have ALL of the FX sets from this period, most of them complete. I do not have a loft and lie machine but have compared them to sets I do own of Wilson RM MidSize and Wilson FG62's with known lofts and find them identical up to the wedges (as stated above by NRJyzr):

 

Year: (1995) RAM Fx Tour Grind (Forged Blade and FX2 ,FX Off-Set Cavity backs)

1 Iron (17°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
2 Iron (19°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
3 Iron (21°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
4 Iron (24°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
5 Iron (27°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
6 Iron (31°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
7 Iron (35°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
8 Iron (39°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
9 Iron (43°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
PWedge (47°) RAM Fx Tour Grind
SWedge (52°) RAM Fx Tour Grind

 

Year: (1998) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel (Cast Blade and Cavity back)
3 Iron (21°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
4 Iron (24°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
5 Iron (27°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
6 Iron (31°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
7 Iron (35°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
8 Iron (39°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
9 Iron (43°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
PWedge (47°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel
SWedge (52°) RAM Fx Tour Grind Nickel

(I did not list 1 & 2 Iron specs because I do not have them in nickel)

 

Year: (1999) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
1 Iron (17°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
2 Iron (19°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged

GWedge (51°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged*
SWedge (55°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged
LWedge (60°) Wilson Staff RM Midsize Forged

*possibly 52 according to some databases

 

Year: (2011) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
2 Iron (18°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff FG 62 Forged

 

This is what I call (players) MODERN STANDARD as it endured (at least at Wilson) until the introduction of the new STAFF MODEL which has gone up 1 degree per club.

 

Year: (2009) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff FG 59 Forged

 

Year: (2005) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
2 Iron (19°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff Fi5 Forged

 

Year: (2010) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged
GWedge (51°) Wilson Staff FG Tour Forged

 

Year: (2012) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged
GWedge (51°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V4 Forged

 

Year: (2014) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged
GWedge (51°) Wilson Staff FG Tour V6 Forged

 

Year: (2014) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
3 Iron (21°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
4 Iron (24°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
5 Iron (27°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
6 Iron (31°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
7 Iron (35°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
8 Iron (39°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
9 Iron (43°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
PWedge (47°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged
GWedge (51°) Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 Forged

 

Year: (2019) Wilson Staff Model Forged
2 Iron (18°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
3 Iron (20°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
4 Iron (23°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
5 Iron (26°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
6 Iron (30°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
7 Iron (34°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
8 Iron (38°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
9 Iron (42°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
PWedge (46°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
GWedge (52°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
SWedge (56°) Wilson Staff Model Forged
LWedge (60°) Wilson Staff Model Forged

 

Interesting side notes explained in more detail:

 

Ram wedges of the time were marked P,W,M,S and L

 

P and W are both pitching wedge designations (P forged, W cast generally)

M middle (gap)

S sand in some, gap in others (See below)

L lob

Ram catalogues of the time list a 51 degree Middle (Gap wedge) for the forged Pro-Set(I've never seen one, but it must exist) with a 55 degree Sand Wedge and 60 Degree Pitching Wedge (I have those), while the Pro-Set cast, FX oversize and FX Nickel oversize M wedges are also 51 or 52 degree Gap wedges). (I have the one for the Pro-Set Cast).

 

Year: (1995) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind

1 Iron (17°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
2 Iron (19°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
3 Iron (21°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
4 Iron (24°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
5 Iron (27°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
6 Iron (31°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
7 Iron (35°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
8 Iron (39°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
9 Iron (43°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
PWedge (47°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
GWedge (51°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
SWedge (55°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind
LWedge (60°) RAM Fx Pro-Set Tour Grind

 

The other FX sets of the time appear to have 51 or 52 degree Sand Wedges with no additional "set wedges" offered AFAIK)*. This would include both nickel sets (blades and cavity back), FX2, FX Off-Set and FX Tour Grind Blade.

That means the S wedge in these sets IS the Gap wedge you've been looking for. (I have 3 of those 4 so I know this first hand).

 

*There appears to be some other (possibly set independent) FX wedges offered during this period, but I have no information on those.

 

 

[@_the_crook]

as this post has been revitalized, so has my interest in these irons.

as @UlfBane shows above, Ram and TA were both made it seems, at the same plant.

I picked up a set of FX2's a while back, thinking I'd give them a try one of these days.

was a long time 845 player.

Took the Rams out a couple weekends ago, after playing Hogan CBs (The Callaway X-14 clones) for the last few seasons.

like the way the feel, these have DGR300 shafts.

recall having a set of TA's with the same shafts that performed well - whatever that's worth.

might have to upsize the std grips though, and they feel about an inch too long - I prefer a shorter setup.

these are nice sticks. soft at impact - to me - and well balanced.

narrower sole and squarer toe than the Tommy.

is anyone still hitting them or have any thoughts on playing the FX2's ?