Wishon EQ1-NX system

[puttitin]

I haven't seen the EQ1-NX irons in person, but from the photos as well as the specs, they remind me a lot of my 870 ti irons. Of course the weight of the heads is not the same, but the hi-cor, the offset, the sole angles, the overall size are very reminiscent of the 870's - which ,by the way were touted at the time SGI. 

[TKS]

Less offset in the EQ1-NX, of course feel is going to be different via different materials. My typical toe misses on the Eq's are almost undetectable.

 

[Rich Douglas]

On 4/9/2020 at 6:01 PM, third-times-a-charm said:

And right in line with the other products....they look terrible.

They look great...and play even better!

[Rich Douglas]

On 4/9/2020 at 10:44 PM, Hack Daddy said:

Tom has been an invaluable resource over the years, but man, I have to agree... his products look terrible. I mean no disrespect at all, Tom.

But hire someone to make your clubs look like they didn't come from Monark Golf.

I don't understand this. I've played Mizuno, Ping, TM, Titleist, Hogan, and even the Cleveland VAS 792. My Wishon Sterlings looked like any other iron, and the EQ1-NX set I replaced them with looks even better.

[Rich Douglas]

On 4/10/2020 at 8:18 AM, Hack Daddy said:

Stop. No matter how you try and force feed aesthetics don't matter, they 100% do. Tom is such a amazing club designer that I've always wanted to try his clubs. But I balk because, again, they look like cheap China components from Monark Golf. I know they aren't, but like @third-times-a-charm said, they are god awful looking. It's like he hired someone with no graphic design experience to do the job...

I played Sterling for 4 years and have played these since they became available. In a word, no. They look great. And they play even better.

[Rich Douglas]

On 4/10/2020 at 9:24 AM, chall92 said:

Read further in the website below and found photos of the clubs that look extremely closed at address. Hopefully just a bad photo angle.

https://wishongolf.com/eq1-nx-single-length-irons/

They're not. They have a 2-degree offset throughout the set. They set up square.

[Rich Douglas]

On 4/10/2020 at 10:08 AM, Sparky14 said:

I actually though the SL wedges were easier for me. They do go a little higher. But it was easy to choke down for knock-downs or chipping.

Me, too.

 

What people who haven't played them never realize is that there is no trade-off between the low- and high-lofted clubs in a single-length set. (This is a myth perpetrated by them.) In fact, the longer irons are easier to hit because you put the exact same swing on them as you do with every other club in the set. I'm more accurate with my single-length clubs--at an 8-iron length--than I was with traditional irons.

[Jmurf]

New to forum hopefully not posting in wrong area.  Couple question to the experts.

 

I am 11 hcp 65 years old and currently use cobra f8 VL plus 1/2 length looking to go to single length.

 

I don’t like cobra SL logic of using different lie angles etc. so looking for alternatives.  Currently think wishon at top of my list, but also looking at “one iron golf”.

 

Questions

1) is wrist measurement as way to get fitted sufficient?

2) is We are the only golf club manufacturer to perform shaft flex plane orientation as part of our proprietary Shaft Optimization Process.  Just marketing Mumbo jumbo?

3) the wishon seems to prefer the 8 iron length for setup.  Can or should that be violated?  Could I get the new wishon in 37.5 to 38 length?

 

thanks in advance for your input!

[laxwax]

1) Wrist to floor is a starting point and probably sufficient for 95% of golfers. Little tweaks on playing length for non-standard setup (Keegan Bradley (bent over) or Fred Couples (taller)) or swing plane (upright vs flat) are usually not that large. If you think you have some non-standard issues, then go see a custom fitter.

 

2) Wishon pays attention to the details. Spining and FLO and PURE may all be mumbojumbo to some. At least with Wishon shafts the graphics a painted after orientation, so if you install them with the graphics all the same, then they are all a consistent orientation. Whether you actually care about the is up to you. I just look at is as a consistency thing.

 

3) Headweight is in the 275 gram range. 37.5” be doable, 38” would have a slightly high swingweight (maybe just in the D5-D6ish range)

 

Wishon clubs are only sold through custom fitters, the fitter will get you into the proper setup.

[Double Dodger]

On 4/10/2020 at 11:28 AM, TKS said:

Bunch of peacocks! Ha!

Tom`s just doing what he does, the OEMs will follow him eventually.

Funny. I remember having a driver with interchangeable weights in the heel and toe long before TM did it. It was a Golfsmith. 

[TKS]

2 hours ago, Jmurf said:

New to forum hopefully not posting in wrong area.  Couple question to the experts.

 

I am 11 hcp 65 years old and currently use cobra f8 VL plus 1/2 length looking to go to single length.

 

I don’t like cobra SL logic of using different lie angles etc. so looking for alternatives.  Currently think wishon at top of my list, but also looking at “one iron golf”.

 

Questions

1) is wrist measurement as way to get fitted sufficient?

2) is We are the only golf club manufacturer to perform shaft flex plane orientation as part of our proprietary Shaft Optimization Process.  Just marketing Mumbo jumbo?

3) the wishon seems to prefer the 8 iron length for setup.  Can or should that be violated?  Could I get the new wishon in 37.5 to 38 length?

 

thanks in advance for your input!

I play the EQ1-NX to MY 8iron length, but have built a few sets to the 7 iron length of a few clients. There is some room for variation in fitting designed in the the system.

[Jmurf]

Thanks for expertise!

[Mr Fade]

I am having great success with the EQ1-NX 7-wood built to 40". Would you build the FW4 to the exact same length and specs and rely just on the lower loft for proper gapping or would you go 41" or 41.5" with a bit of a lighter head? I swing this club right at 90 mph.

[geochitown]

On 10/22/2021 at 10:07 AM, Mr Fade said:

I am having great success with the EQ1-NX 7-wood built to 40". Would you build the FW4 to the exact same length and specs and rely just on the lower loft for proper gapping or would you go 41" or 41.5" with a bit of a lighter head? I swing this club right at 90 mph.

 

yes, build to same length 

[geochitown]

If you can ask for hand select lofts to ensure gapping

[JCAG]

On 5/30/2021 at 11:28 AM, Double Dodger said:

Funny. I remember having a driver with interchangeable weights in the heel and toe long before TM did it. It was a Golfsmith. 

I believe that was a Tom Wishon design when he was at Golfsmith. I forget the name.

[Mr Fade]

On 10/23/2021 at 5:13 PM, geochitown said:

 

yes, build to same length 

Thanks, I might just do that! Anyone else in the same situation?

[geochitown]

you can also post a question on the website and Tom himself answers questions there.

 

wishongolf.com

 

go the to the EQ-NX1 club under designs and you'll find a comments section below....

 

i'll think you'll find others have asked similar questions and Tom has already answered those questions.  

 

I've found the comments sections with Tom's anwers very educational.

 

 

 

Edited October 25, 2021 by geochitown

[Mr Fade]

16 minutes ago, geochitown said:

you can also post a question on the website and Tom himself answers questions there.

 

wishongolf.com

 

go the to the EQ-NX1 club under designs and you'll find a comments section below....

 

i'll think you'll find others have asked similar questions and Tom has already answered those questions.  

 

I've found the comments sections with Tom's anwers very educational.

 

 

 

Thanks again, I have read everything on the Wishon site already and agree that it is very educational. Still, a FW with a 17 deg loft at 40" is a bit out of the box... or maybe the standard 43" is whats odd... 😀

[geochitown]

There is a guy on here asking about a 40" 17*

 

EQ1-NX Fairway Woods | Wishon Golf

 

This guy went heavy, D6, which is a bit outside the envelope, but Tom says at 40" for fairways are definitely inside his design envelope.

 

Corey Christensen

 5 months ago

 

Hi Tom,

I was fit for a 4 wood and 7 wood both at 40”. I am use a swing weight of D6 and with my project X evenflow white 75g shafts I still need to have roughly 8g of lead tape added to each club head even with the full 30g of weights. Are there other heavier weights that can be bought to increase swing weight beyond the 30g that come with the fairway woods? I just want to say I love these clubs, I hit them so pure and far!

 

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Tom Wishon

 5 months ago

 

 Reply to  Corey Christensen

COREY Yes, trying to hit a swingweight as high as D6 at the shorter length of 40″ with a 75g shaft is definitely a little outside the range of what adding a full 30g to all the weight bores would allow, so this does not surprise me at all. There is just no way that I can design heads that have enough weight addition capability inside the head to achieve every possible combination of length + shaft weight + swingweight desired. It’s the D6 combined with choosing the shorter of the single length options that pushes it that far outside… Read

 

Edited October 25, 2021 by geochitown

[geochitown]

Here is some text relating to 40 and 41" in the single length fairways and what might point you in either direction

 

Once I designed the EQ1 woods with the option to be fit/built to either incremental lengths or single length, I really had the chance to test and look more deeply into what happens when the woods are all 40 to 41 inches in length. Yes, a golfer will swing a 41″ 3w slower than he would one that is 43″ and from that, the golfer would not hit the 41″ 3w as far as a 43″ 3w. But golf is a game of percentages because no one hits all the shots good. So the goal of single length woods based on a length between 40 and 41″ is to increase the % of better shots/better misses with the understanding that is better than having a few shots hit 10-15 yds longer but with more shots overall hit inconsistently.

The better the golfer’s swing consistentcy wise, the more you would lean toward 41″ as the single length for the woods. The more inconsistent, higher the hdcp, the more the golfer would be wise to go with a single length on the woods of 40″. Hybrid wise, the EQ1 hybrids can be made to be the same length as the single length irons and thus could fill in to be an iron in the full single length set makeup. The decision for that lies in your clubhead speed first and foremost. If your 7 iron clubhead speed were not more than 75mph, you would not want to go with a EQ1 5 iron and you’d likely start the irons with the #6. Which means having a 5 hybrid at the same length as the rest of the single length irons would be a viable option. With a 7 iron speed under 75mph, I don’t think I would go with a 4 hybrid at the same length as the irons. I might look at that one to be an “in between” the irons and woods length of say, at least 2″ longer than whatever Ed deems your best iron single length to be.

[geochitown]

1 minute ago, geochitown said:

So the goal of single length woods based on a length between 40 and 41″ is to increase the % of better shots/better misses with the understanding that is better than having a few shots hit 10-15 yds longer but with more shots overall hit inconsistently.

 

This part being the key of Tom's length thoughts about single length fairways

 

[geochitown]

For tip trim, Tom suggests using 7 wood tip trim guidelines for fairways in the 40-41" lengths.

[Mr Fade]

12 minutes ago, geochitown said:

 

This part being the key of Tom's length thoughts about single length fairways

 

Yes, this is my main thought also. The same principles goes for the driver. This is whats great with the EQ1 system. You can go longer in the shortest clubs but shorter in the longest. To me it makes sense if your main concern is making this game as easy as possible to master.

[Rich Douglas]

Anyone use a launch monitor with these irons? My SC 300i has you input the club you're using plus its loft. But with single-length irons, they're all an 8-iron length with different lofts. So, do I:

 

• Enter each club as a standard for that number, knowing Wishon has engineered it to fly according to the number on the club?
• Enter each club as the number, but adjust the loft to reflect the EQ1-NX specs? 
• Enter each club as an 8-iron, but adjust the loft according to EQ1-NX specs? (Since each club is the same length as the 8-iron.)

[TKS]

Use the middle bullet point.

I have the sc300i and the EQ1-NX set. Set the club to the iron number and loft of the club. The length of the club only comes into play with the clubhead speed. I have found the sc300i to be a good unit, once I figured it out a bit. I used it outside into a net mostly, when it is at the range with me, seems bang on with yardages. Great for gapping and clubhead speed 

Edited December 17, 2021 by TKS
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[5hort5tuff]

I play Wishon Sterling SL. They have really changed my long iron game and I will forever play SL from now on. 

 

On terms of looks, I agree they aren't great especially stock, but I have stripped the paint and dressed them up a bit, and I think they look pretty decent. 

Edited December 19, 2021 by 5hort5tuff

[Rich Douglas]

On 12/17/2021 at 3:10 PM, TKS said:

Use the middle bullet point.

I have the sc300i and the EQ1-NX set. Set the club to the iron number and loft of the club. The length of the club only comes into play with the clubhead speed. I have found the sc300i to be a good unit, once I figured it out a bit. I used it outside into a net mostly, when it is at the range with me, seems bang on with yardages. Great for gapping and clubhead speed 

I confirmed this with the manufacturer. I was wondering if I had to keep it on the 8-iron setting (my club length) and change the lofts, but they said to set the device on the correct iron number and also change the loft.

[Tupperwolf]

Bumping this thread.  I'm intrigued by this set, and although I'm trying to participate in the bag-is-set challenge for '22 I still can't help ponder on other equipment.  It seems like Wishon's business model is to only sell gear through a certified clubfitter?  Is there anywhere to buy the heads only other than from the UK?  I understand the idea of getting people the best fit gear, but it seems like Wishon is undercutting himself by being a component manufacturer that doesn't sell components direct to the public.

[Feelingofgreatness]

6 hours ago, Tupperwolf said:

Bumping this thread.  I'm intrigued by this set, and although I'm trying to participate in the bag-is-set challenge for '22 I still can't help ponder on other equipment.  It seems like Wishon's business model is to only sell gear through a certified clubfitter?  Is there anywhere to buy the heads only other than from the UK?  I understand the idea of getting people the best fit gear, but it seems like Wishon is undercutting himself by being a component manufacturer that doesn't sell components direct to the public.

Correct. 

You are basically paying $60-70 per head versus $35 because Wishon won't sell to you directly. 

 

The problem is... If you don't like them, they are worth $15-20/head the moment you hit them.