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Hi Everyone,

I was lucky enough to get a G410LST as a replacement for my cracked G400Max and I had a couple questions about the G410 adapter settings.

 

Ping says:

"Trajectory Tuning 2.0 in the G410 drivers utilizes a lightweight, aerodynamic hosel sleeve that provides eight positions for influencing ball flight through loft (±1.5°) and lie adjustments, including up to 3° flatter than standard."

 

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1.) Is the flat setting exactly 3 degrees flat for each of those options? Or is it only 3 degrees flat for one of those options? Which one?

2.) How does the face angle change with each of these options? My understanding of adapter settings is that lofting down opens the face while lofting up closes the face (effectively). Is this still true for the G410?

3.) My miss is left and I want the driver to sit the most open at address and be flat. Is my best option the F-?

 

Thanks all!

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Here are the actual specs 

No, it's more.  See my first response.  The relationship between loft change and face angle change is geometrically fixed.  It's the same for every adapter and head.  The only thing that's specific to

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1 hour ago, mgoblue83 said:

Hi Everyone,

I was lucky enough to get a G410LST as a replacement for my cracked G400Max and I had a couple questions about the G410 adapter settings.

 

Ping says:

"Trajectory Tuning 2.0 in the G410 drivers utilizes a lightweight, aerodynamic hosel sleeve that provides eight positions for influencing ball flight through loft (±1.5°) and lie adjustments, including up to 3° flatter than standard."

 

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1.) Is the flat setting exactly 3 degrees flat for each of those options? Or is it only 3 degrees flat for one of those options? Which one?

2.) How does the face angle change with each of these options? My understanding of adapter settings is that lofting down opens the face while lofting up closes the face (effectively). Is this still true for the G410?

3.) My miss is left and I want the driver to sit the most open at address and be flat. Is my best option the F-?

 

Thanks all!

 

1.  No, not possible.  The flattest setting will be the 'F' setting and the most upright will be the 'O' setting.

2) Face angle changes 1.8* for each 1* of loft change.

3) Assuming you're right handed, the best option to try first will likely be the "F-" or maybe even the big '-' setting. The more open face angle tends to be much more effective at managing shot shape and direction than the lie angle.  But that's a generalization so don't hesitate to test and compare with other settings.

 

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5 minutes ago, Stuart_G said:

 

1.  No, not possible.  The flattest setting will be the 'F' setting and the most upright will be the 'O' setting.

2) Face angle changes 1.8* for each 1* of loft change.

3) Assuming you're right handed, the best option to try first will likely be the "F-" or maybe even the big '-' setting. The more open face angle tends to be much more effective at managing shot shape and direction than the lie angle.  But that's a generalization so don't hesitate to test and compare with other settings.

 

Thank you!

To clarify my first question: Ping quotes as "up to 3 degrees flat" and I was asking if each of the 3 flat settings(F, F-, and F+) are exactly 3 degrees flat or are the graduated?

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1 hour ago, mgoblue83 said:

Hi Everyone,

I was lucky enough to get a G410LST as a replacement for my cracked G400Max and I had a couple questions about the G410 adapter settings.

 

Ping says:

"Trajectory Tuning 2.0 in the G410 drivers utilizes a lightweight, aerodynamic hosel sleeve that provides eight positions for influencing ball flight through loft (±1.5°) and lie adjustments, including up to 3° flatter than standard."

 

spacer.png

 

 

1.) Is the flat setting exactly 3 degrees flat for each of those options? Or is it only 3 degrees flat for one of those options? Which one?

2.) How does the face angle change with each of these options? My understanding of adapter settings is that lofting down opens the face while lofting up closes the face (effectively). Is this still true for the G410?

3.) My miss is left and I want the driver to sit the most open at address and be flat. Is my best option the F-?

 

Thanks all!

Here are the actual specs 

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I pick 14 of the following:
Ping G400
Ping G410 3, 5 and 7 wood
Ping G 400 4 hybrid
Ping G 4-U
Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS
Grips NDMC +4
Odyssey Pro #1 black
Hoofer
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ECCO Biom Hybrid 3

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Awesome, I haven't seen this chart before. Do you know anything about face angle changes with each setting?

I'm not an expert here, just someone who likes to tinker.  But my assumption is the face angle changes approx the same amount the lift changes.  So if you lower the loft one degree the face will open approx. one degree.  

I pick 14 of the following:
Ping G400
Ping G410 3, 5 and 7 wood
Ping G 400 4 hybrid
Ping G 4-U
Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS
Grips NDMC +4
Odyssey Pro #1 black
Hoofer
ProV1x-mostly
ECCO Biom Hybrid 3

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19 minutes ago, mgoblue83 said:

Thank you!

To clarify my first question: Ping quotes as "up to 3 degrees flat" and I was asking if each of the 3 flat settings(F, F-, and F+) are exactly 3 degrees flat or are the graduated?

 I understood that.  That's what the 'No, not possible" was answering.

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2 minutes ago, dlygrisse said:

I'm not an expert here, just someone who likes to tinker.  But my assumption is the face angle changes approx the same amount the lift changes.  So if you lower the loft one degree the face will open approx. one degree.  

 

No, it's more.  See my first response.  The relationship between loft change and face angle change is geometrically fixed.  It's the same for every adapter and head.  The only thing that's specific to the head is what the base face angle might be (face angle at the 0* loft settings).

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No, it's more.  See my first response.  The relationship between loft and face angle is geometrically fixed.  It's the same for every adapter and head.

Got it.  I'm not sure how the math works there but when you lower the loft 1* it is for sure noticeably more open.  I have my driver set that way, and have tinkered with the FW's, but I think I prefer then standard.  I did have some success lowering the loft on the 5 wood for awhile and essentially making it a 4 wood and dropping the 3.  

I pick 14 of the following:
Ping G400
Ping G410 3, 5 and 7 wood
Ping G 400 4 hybrid
Ping G 4-U
Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 54, 58 SS
Grips NDMC +4
Odyssey Pro #1 black
Hoofer
ProV1x-mostly
ECCO Biom Hybrid 3

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7 minutes ago, Stuart_G said:

 

No, it's more.  See my first response.  The relationship between loft change and face angle change is geometrically fixed.  It's the same for every adapter and head.  The only thing that's specific to the head is what the base face angle might be (face angle at the 0* loft settings).

So the F- position would be 8 degrees loft, 2 degrees flat (59.5 to 57.5) and 1.8 degrees open (from standard)?

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41 minutes ago, mgoblue83 said:

So the F- position would be 8 degrees loft, 2 degrees flat (59.5 to 57.5) and 1.8 degrees open (from standard)?

 

Correct.  Well that is if you believe the charts.   Should be roughly correct but I've found that most of the companies round the numbers (both lofts and lies) up or down on these types of charts to make them look 'neater' so it might not be exact.

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