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Just thought to drop a "review" of these two shafts.

 

Got a TSR3 driver, came with a Hzrdus Gen 4 Black, 6.5 60g.  Also have for comparison a Tensei White 75g X Stiff.

 

I have been trying them both, and having had an Evenflow white T1100 6.5 70g in my previous TS2, I was recommended the Tensei white as being the most similar.

 

I WAY prefer the new Hzrdus black - the tensei I am finding way more harsh, even when I hit the middle of the face.  Getting an unpleasant feeling through the shaft - could be the difference in weight and torque, but I don't think so.

The Hzrdus Gen4 seems to be really smooth, while standing up nicely when I really go at it.  Seems to be the best of both worlds- very happy with it!

 

Anyone else got similar feedback?

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I got the complete opposite Experience. 

 

HZRDUS feels like it is lagging behind me. I can't get the shaft to the Ball and everything is push right. Feels heavy and for me not controllable.

 

Much prefer the Tensei and game it the last 2 Years. Beautiful Shaft and a smooth feel for its profile.

Driver: Callaway Epic MAX LS 9* Tensei AV Raw white 60 S
Fairway: Callaway Paratem Triple Diamond 3 Wood HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 6.0

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On 4/13/2023 at 6:09 PM, Mobert19 said:

Which Tensei white for clarity please?

Tensei AV series

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On 4/13/2023 at 9:53 AM, SvenS3 said:

I got the complete opposite Experience. 

 

HZRDUS feels like it is lagging behind me. I can't get the shaft to the Ball and everything is push right. Feels heavy and for me not controllable.

 

Much prefer the Tensei and game it the last 2 Years. Beautiful Shaft and a smooth feel for its profile.

Wonder if it is a Transition/Tempo thing?  Interesting.

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Cobra Radspeed Tour 17,5d, Kurokage XM 80  TX

Titleist TS3 Tour Issue, Aldila 2KNV Blue 90 TX

Ping S56 2i to PW, DGX100

Vokey SM9 52 12 F and 58 12 D, DG X100, Cleveland RTX Zipcore 62, Low, DG Spinner

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2 hours ago, jjinsa said:

Tensei AV series

Try the 1K PW.  Much smoother compared to the AV white which I wasn't fond of.  My ball speed jumped up 2-3 mph as well.  I've never gotten along with any of the Hzrdus shafts except the smoke green hulk. 

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13 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

Try the 1K PW.  Much smoother compared to the AV white which I wasn't fond of.  My ball speed jumped up 2-3 mph as well.  I've never gotten along with any of the Hzrdus shafts except the smoke green hulk. 

 Don’t need to. Loving the hzrdus Gen4

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Titleist TS3 Tour Issue, Aldila 2KNV Blue 90 TX

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13 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

Try the 1K PW.  Much smoother compared to the AV white which I wasn't fond of.  

 

Agree with OP regarding HZRDUS Gen4 Black vs Tensei AV White.  But like @phizzy30 noted above, Pro White 1K is a better fit for my swing.  

 

Always find it interesting how 2 golfers with same SS can have entirely different reactions to same shaft because of transition, release etc.

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Tensei AV White for clarity. Found the original Tensei White (First Generation) stouter than the AV Series, but still much better than the Hzrdus.

 

Game the original Tensei White in Hybrid and 4 iron and they are perfect.

Driver: Callaway Epic MAX LS 9* Tensei AV Raw white 60 S
Fairway: Callaway Paratem Triple Diamond 3 Wood HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 6.0

DI: Titleist U500 23* HZRDUS Smoke Black 90 6.0
Irons: Titleist T100 5-Gap Project X LZ 6.5
Wedges: Taylormade Hi Toe 54/60 Project X LZ 6.5
Putter: Odyssey O Works 7
Ball: Vice Pro


Grips: Golf Pride MCC Plus 4 Midsize Teams

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On 4/13/2023 at 1:03 AM, jjinsa said:

Just thought to drop a "review" of these two shafts.

 

Got a TSR3 driver, came with a Hzrdus Gen 4 Black, 6.5 60g.  Also have for comparison a Tensei White 75g X Stiff.

 

I have been trying them both, and having had an Evenflow white T1100 6.5 70g in my previous TS2, I was recommended the Tensei white as being the most similar.

 

I WAY prefer the new Hzrdus black - the tensei I am finding way more harsh, even when I hit the middle of the face.  Getting an unpleasant feeling through the shaft - could be the difference in weight and torque, but I don't think so.

The Hzrdus Gen4 seems to be really smooth, while standing up nicely when I really go at it.  Seems to be the best of both worlds- very happy with it!

 

Anyone else got similar feedback?

We love to hear the feedback on our new HZRDUS Gen 4 Black! Keep hitting bombs down the fairway!

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HZRDUS Gen 4 Black is really a winner for me currently.  It actually dethroned a Ventus Black I had been hitting all Winter and was intending to game this year.  First round out with the Ventus was less than optimal so decided to give the HZRDUS a try and everything just came alive.  Been driving the ball great since the swap for the last 5 rounds.  

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I am actually shocked how much I like HZRDUS Gen 4 Black in my Srixon ZX 5 LS, as I didn't get along with the previous versions of the HZRDUS Blacks.   I had a RDX Blue in a Sim 2 awhile back, that is more my profile generally, going back to the original Matrix Red Tie.

 

I can hit it high or low, and never seem to fight the shaft, but it never feels lose at all.  May have found a great profile my my swing....

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On 4/13/2023 at 12:03 AM, jjinsa said:

Just thought to drop a "review" of these two shafts.

 

Got a TSR3 driver, came with a Hzrdus Gen 4 Black, 6.5 60g.  Also have for comparison a Tensei White 75g X Stiff.

 

I have been trying them both, and having had an Evenflow white T1100 6.5 70g in my previous TS2, I was recommended the Tensei white as being the most similar.

 

I WAY prefer the new Hzrdus black - the tensei I am finding way more harsh, even when I hit the middle of the face.  Getting an unpleasant feeling through the shaft - could be the difference in weight and torque, but I don't think so.

The Hzrdus Gen4 seems to be really smooth, while standing up nicely when I really go at it.  Seems to be the best of both worlds- very happy with it!

 

Anyone else got similar feedback?

HZRDUS Black Gen 4 is smoother than the White for me.

The white is still a great shaft but the Black is Low/Mid and soo smooth for me in my Rogue. I replaced my Tour AD XC-7X with the 70 6.5 Gen 4 Black.

The Tensei seems to work better with a quicker transition whereas the Hzrdus has a wonderful kick with a more moderate tempo.

Interestingly enough the Gen 4 Black has a lower ballflight for me than the Tensie white as well. The XC-7X is highest of the 3 but not a lot.

To me the Gen 4 Black also has more kick and a lower ballflight than my old favourite, the Aldila Tour Green.

I have kept the Green in my Fairways to this point, but plan on experimenting with the Gen4 Black.

This has quickly become my new favorite.

 

 

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