Hogan's arms/hands and his shirt buttons

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='guisician' timestamp='1360724856' post='6417749']
Very informative, makes total sense. Thanks all!
[/quote]

You got royal collection irons?!?!?

[tylerdurden]

There goes my bank account

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360769248' post='6420227']
There goes my bank account
[/quote]

LOL! You got them too?

[tylerdurden]

lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?

[tylerdurden]

[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.

[dairic]

[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!

[tembolo1284]

why not hogans?

[dairic]

[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360789945' post='6422753']
why not hogans?
[/quote]

I'm a lefty, so it's very difficult to find a set of lefty clubs from antiquity. So I basically play with newish irons and persimmon which I've purchased from Louisville Golf.

[guisician]

[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360768201' post='6420103']
You got royal collection irons?!?!?
[/quote]

Sorry for the brief non-Hogan detour but yeah, the RC Tour VS irons were my first JDM find (near-mint demo set from a Canadian golf shop via eBay at a great price). They're amazing and were in the bag a few months ago; they'll return if I find I can't manage the baby blades. Thicker topline but perfectly balanced and soft with a unique forgiving sole grind including some heel and toe relief. Again, hitting privileges are yours whenever...

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360789134' post='6422665']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!
[/quote]

Don't hit the MP-29s, because you won't want the 68s or 69s anymore. Go ahead and eat those hamburgers, they're the best thing you've ever tasted until you have steak!

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360868517' post='6428879']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360789134' post='6422665']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!
[/quote]

Don't hit the MP-29s, because you won't want the 68s or 69s anymore. Go ahead and eat those hamburgers, they're the best thing you've ever tasted until you have steak!
[/quote]

mmmmm....steak!

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='guisician' timestamp='1360821400' post='6425905']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360768201' post='6420103']
You got royal collection irons?!?!?
[/quote]

Sorry for the brief non-Hogan detour but yeah, the RC Tour VS irons were my first JDM find (near-mint demo set from a Canadian golf shop via eBay at a great price). They're amazing and were in the bag a few months ago; they'll return if I find I can't manage the baby blades. Thicker topline but perfectly balanced and soft with a unique forgiving sole grind including some heel and toe relief. Again, hitting privileges are yours whenever...
[/quote]

WOW! Come oooooooooon summer! Can't get here quick enough!

[dairic]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360868517' post='6428879']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360789134' post='6422665']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!
[/quote]

Don't hit the MP-29s, because you won't want the 68s or 69s anymore. Go ahead and eat those hamburgers, they're the best thing you've ever tasted until you have steak!
[/quote]

If you see a lefty set let me know and I'll buy them!! I'll have steak over burgers anyday!

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360869745' post='6429043']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360868517' post='6428879']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360789134' post='6422665']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!
[/quote]

Don't hit the MP-29s, because you won't want the 68s or 69s anymore. Go ahead and eat those hamburgers, they're the best thing you've ever tasted until you have steak!
[/quote]

If you see a lefty set let me know and I'll buy them!! I'll have steak over burgers anyday!
[/quote]

That's interesting - I'll have to research whether or not they ever made lefty 29s!

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360869745' post='6429043']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360868517' post='6428879']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360789134' post='6422665']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!
[/quote]

Don't hit the MP-29s, because you won't want the 68s or 69s anymore. Go ahead and eat those hamburgers, they're the best thing you've ever tasted until you have steak!
[/quote]

If you see a lefty set let me know and I'll buy them!! I'll have steak over burgers anyday!
[/quote]

Any chance to switch to a righty? Be a man!

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360871032' post='6429217']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360869745' post='6429043']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360868517' post='6428879']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360789134' post='6422665']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!
[/quote]

Don't hit the MP-29s, because you won't want the 68s or 69s anymore. Go ahead and eat those hamburgers, they're the best thing you've ever tasted until you have steak!
[/quote]

If you see a lefty set let me know and I'll buy them!! I'll have steak over burgers anyday!
[/quote]

Any chance to switch to a righty? Be a man!
[/quote]

He'll have to, they did not make the 29 in LH. Sorry dairic. However in researching, I saw the 68s and they look great, but no LH in the 69s.

[dairic]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360871442' post='6429279']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360871032' post='6429217']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360869745' post='6429043']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360868517' post='6428879']
[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1360789134' post='6422665']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360788557' post='6422571']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360786376' post='6422311']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360785015' post='6422157']
[quote name='tylerdurden' timestamp='1360773134' post='6420703']
lol no way dude I still have my grooveless/dented in MP-67s. Fun trying stop a noodle with those on slick dormant bermuda in 45* weather.
[/quote]

On the bright side you won't have to worry about overspinning the ball!

When you getting your next iron set? What set is it gonna be?
[/quote]
I'm going to stick with mizunos for sure. When I get to a plus handicap and it stays there I'll buy a new set since I'll actually deserve it at that point. I'll probably get the MP 68s or 69s. Mizunos are so good.
[/quote]

damn y0...you all mizunoified.
[/quote]

I play with mp-68s and they are the bee's knees !!
[/quote]

Don't hit the MP-29s, because you won't want the 68s or 69s anymore. Go ahead and eat those hamburgers, they're the best thing you've ever tasted until you have steak!
[/quote]

If you see a lefty set let me know and I'll buy them!! I'll have steak over burgers anyday!
[/quote]

Any chance to switch to a righty? Be a man!
[/quote]

He'll have to, they did not make the 29 in LH. Sorry dairic. However in researching, I saw the 68s and they look great, but no LH in the 69s.
[/quote]

damnit! but that's ok because I'm very happy with my set.

Tembolo, switching to righty could be an interesting project actually. Isn't it Mac O that could break par either LH or RH?

[tembolo1284]

yap...Mac retrained himself to hit lefty. I've seen it. Mirror image...very impressive.

DO IT!

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360877761' post='6429965']
yap...Mac retrained himself to hit lefty. I've seen it. Mirror image...very impressive.

DO IT!
[/quote]

Only the inner circle gets to see it!

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1360880651' post='6430229']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1360877761' post='6429965']
yap...Mac retrained himself to hit lefty. I've seen it. Mirror image...very impressive.

DO IT!
[/quote]

Only the inner circle gets to see it!
[/quote]

In person yes...or you can go to youtube!

[Jim Waldron]

I've seen Mac do it, but I have been cast out of the inner circle lo' nigh on 18 years now. No matter, I now have my own inner circle I hang with, but none of us can switch-hit as good as Mac.

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='Jim Waldron' timestamp='1360884018' post='6430493']
I've seen Mac do it, but I have been cast out of the inner circle lo' nigh on 18 years now. No matter, I now have my own inner circle I hang with, but none of us can switch-hit as good as Mac.
[/quote]

I think it's his most impressive feat. Esp with his arm problem now.

[tembolo1284]

One thing that has my attention is how shallow he is. I'm noticing the more shallow I get, the more open my face is and it further prevents me from hitting a hook. Which is a good thing!

So what squares the clubface? Hogan was as shallow as it got. Did he square it with his body, his hands, or both?

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1361898518' post='6506579']
One thing that has my attention is how shallow he is. I'm noticing the more shallow I get, the more open my face is and it further prevents me from hitting a hook. Which is a good thing!

So what squares the clubface? Hogan was as shallow as it got. Did he square it with his body, his hands, or both?
[/quote]

Pivot only - why would he bend his irons open 6 degs and then use any independent hand/wrist action to help close the face, when he could just not bend them or bend less and use no hands?

[dairic]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1361902566' post='6507031']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1361898518' post='6506579']
One thing that has my attention is how shallow he is. I'm noticing the more shallow I get, the more open my face is and it further prevents me from hitting a hook. Which is a good thing!

So what squares the clubface? Hogan was as shallow as it got. Did he square it with his body, his hands, or both?
[/quote]

Pivot only - why would he bend his irons open 6 degs and then use any independent hand/wrist action to help close the face, when he could just not bend them or bend less and use no hands?
[/quote]

This is where the conversation usually starts to go round and round and round. The standard retort whould be "but he said he wished he had three right hands!!! If his hands arent' active then what the hell man?? and what about supination dude!!!??"

[tembolo1284]

We all agree that his arm swing and body pivot matched as well as anyone else's. And we know he pivoted with reckless abandon. Dude had giant butt cheeks to power that turn. Would even make pinsplitter's ladyboys in Thailand proud.

So how did he get his body and arm swing to match so well? Them arms and clubs are heavy. They ain't swinging themselves.

So how did he do it?

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1361903247' post='6507105']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1361902566' post='6507031']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1361898518' post='6506579']
One thing that has my attention is how shallow he is. I'm noticing the more shallow I get, the more open my face is and it further prevents me from hitting a hook. Which is a good thing!

So what squares the clubface? Hogan was as shallow as it got. Did he square it with his body, his hands, or both?
[/quote]

Pivot only - why would he bend his irons open 6 degs and then use any independent hand/wrist action to help close the face, when he could just not bend them or bend less and use no hands?
[/quote]

This is where the conversation usually starts to go round and round and round. The standard retort whould be "but he said he wished he had three right hands!!! If his hands arent' active then what the hell man?? and what about supination dude!!!??"
[/quote]

I don't think he's actively flipping or anything...if that's what people are thinking...but he must have felt his arms and hands doing something to keep up with his viciously aggressive turn.

What is that feel though? Debate!

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='dairic' timestamp='1361903247' post='6507105']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1361902566' post='6507031']
[quote name='tembolo1284' timestamp='1361898518' post='6506579']
One thing that has my attention is how shallow he is. I'm noticing the more shallow I get, the more open my face is and it further prevents me from hitting a hook. Which is a good thing!

So what squares the clubface? Hogan was as shallow as it got. Did he square it with his body, his hands, or both?
[/quote]

Pivot only - why would he bend his irons open 6 degs and then use any independent hand/wrist action to help close the face, when he could just not bend them or bend less and use no hands?
[/quote]

This is where the conversation usually starts to go round and round and round. The standard retort whould be "but he said he wished he had three right hands!!! If his hands arent' active then what the hell man?? and what about supination dude!!!??"
[/quote]

I didn't mean he didn't make any arm effort, I meant to say that he didn't use hand manipulation to square the face in response to tembo's question. I believe Hogan when he writes and demos making a throwing motion with his right arm! But that's to add shaft speed through impact, not to manipulate the club face with wrist supination, which is rolling and not the raising of the wrist bone, which I think you are calling supination.