Mid-cappers: Transition from PING G700s to G410s

DrawmanDrawman Members Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
edited Aug 13, 2019 4:03pm in Equipment #1

Love to hear from people who played the G700s and then moved to the G410s. I'm interested in contrasting:
1. forgiveness
2. feel (harshness on mis-hits)
3. distance
4. peak height

Thanks in advance!

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  • agolf1agolf1 Members Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm interested but mainly because I am interested in the G700 or next iteration.

    Unless for some reason you've come to hate the feel of the G700, I'm not sure there is really a big difference. Maybe the 410s look slightly better and can be worked a tad more but I'd guess this is marginal.

    The peak height question is a good one. Interested to see what people say here.

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  • DrawmanDrawman Members Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
    edited Aug 13, 2019 4:13pm #3

    @agolf1 said:
    I'm interested but mainly because I am interested in the G700 or next iteration.

    Unless for some reason you've come to hate the feel of the G700, I'm not sure there is really a big difference. Maybe the 410s look slightly better and can be worked a tad more but I'd guess this is marginal.

    The peak height question is a good one. Interested to see what people say here.

    Agree on all accounts. I have an arthritic back and the G700s (especially with the Alta shafts) cut down significantly on any harshness from mis-hits. This more than makes up for the clickiness that people complain about with both the G700/G410s.

    I too am awaiting the replacement for the G700s as they may be just "what the doctor ordered." I'm considering the G410s because of the shorter blade length, reduced offset, and excellent reviews.

  • macedanmacedan Members Posts: 327 ✭✭✭✭

    I haven't gamed either, but I have tested both a fair amount. Average score for myself is upper 80's/low 90s. I currently play Rbladez but have also gamed the hollow head Vapor Fly's in the past. I for the life of me could not get past the feel and sound at impact of the G700 which is odd considering I did like the Vapor Fly's quite well. I also struggled with contact in general, mostly psychological as the heads were quite thick and my mindset kept telling me to strike it as a wood. Just not for me. That being said, I loved the G410 irons in testing. 10% reduction in blade length and offset really doesn't sound like much, but they are crisp looking irons and played very similar to my current set, just a bit more positive on the aesthetic side.

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  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I have gamed the G700's since they came out (beat out the i200, G400 and some other oems in my fitting). Since the G410's came out I have tried them several times at the fitting center even with my fitted Modus 105 shaft. Maybe it's because I'm used to the larger blade length of the 700's but the 410's seem more difficult for me. I average (83) so not totally a hack, but the 700's just seem easier for me.

    To be fair, at my level I am not trying to work the ball. I need launch and the 700's provide that. I simply try and hit as many greens as possible and/or want an iron that gets me as close to the green as possible on mishits. The 700's deliver there.

    As for the sound/feel, ever since the G400's came out, the G700 and G410's all have that higher pitched click that you seem to find on the more recent irons like the Cally Steelhead XR, TM M2/M4 irons etc. Once you get used to it, honestly you don't even notice it until you try another iron.

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  • North ButteNorth Butte Members Posts: 10,867 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @erock9174 said:...you don't even notice it until you try another iron.

    Which for some of us, it must be said, means basically every few days ;-)

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  • WaytallWaytall Members Posts: 24 ✭✭

    Are the G700 good on half shots? Seems like they would struggle with finesse type of shots

  • gvogelgvogel Members Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @erock9174 said:
    I have gamed the G700's since they came out (beat out the i200, G400 and some other oems in my fitting). Since the G410's came out I have tried them several times at the fitting center even with my fitted Modus 105 shaft. Maybe it's because I'm used to the larger blade length of the 700's but the 410's seem more difficult for me. I average (83) so not totally a hack, but the 700's just seem easier for me.

    To be fair, at my level I am not trying to work the ball. I need launch and the 700's provide that. ** I simply try and hit as many greens as possible and/or want an iron that gets me as close to the green as possible on mishits. The 700's deliver there. **

    As for the sound/feel, ever since the G400's came out, the G700 and G410's all have that higher pitched click that you seem to find on the more recent irons like the Cally Steelhead XR, TM M2/M4 irons etc. Once you get used to it, honestly you don't even notice it until you try another iron.

    Working the ball is overrated for us guys that shoot 83!

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  • cfmgolfcfmgolf Members Posts: 636 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have had the G700's for quite some time now. Sound - if you are playing a harder ball (think Srixon VX vs V) then it will have a slightly clickier sound. I certainly had no issue with this as the flight and forgiveness have been great. Came out of Cobra Forged Tec's. "feel shots or 1/2 shots" - again don't really have an issue with them either. Can hit them pretty consistently and don't have an issue with ball jumping. I don't really try to turn them left or right, so this is a non issue for me. Hitting a lower flight shot full shot with the shorter irons is a little tough though. They do want to go high and straight.

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  • agolf1agolf1 Members Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Drawman said:

    @agolf1 said:
    I'm interested but mainly because I am interested in the G700 or next iteration.

    Unless for some reason you've come to hate the feel of the G700, I'm not sure there is really a big difference. Maybe the 410s look slightly better and can be worked a tad more but I'd guess this is marginal.

    The peak height question is a good one. Interested to see what people say here.

    Agree on all accounts. I have an arthritic back and the G700s (especially with the Alta shafts) cut down significantly on any harshness from mis-hits. This more than makes up for the clickiness that people complain about with both the G700/G410s.

    I too am awaiting the replacement for the G700s as they may be just "what the doctor ordered." I'm considering the G410s because of the shorter blade length, reduced offset, and excellent reviews.

    Yeah, I just want something that goes high and straight (no need to do anything else). I'm mainly interested in the next round of the G700 or i500, as I'd like to try the hollow-body irons and there is a decent shot I will get them with graphite shafts. I'm a bit torn on the blade size thing. I'm all for forgiveness/help (which is correlated to size) but I'm not sure I want something that's larger than what I have now. At the same time, the lack of offset in the i500 bothers me, and I don't know how big of a difference there will be on the bad swings in a round.

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  • DrawmanDrawman Members Posts: 104 ✭✭✭

    Working the ball is overrated for us guys that shoot 83!

    I hear you. I'll play late in the day at my course, and a worker will ask if it's okay to grab the pins for the night. My answer is "It's fine, I'm just trying to hit the green!"

  • oiler45oiler45 Members Posts: 269 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't consider myself a feel player at all but after a couple of months I just couldn't stand the feel or sound of my G700's. I'd actually have guys I was paired up with ask me what I'm hitting cause they sound so "off" when hit thin, especially off the tee. I demoed the G410's but didn't love them either. I sold my '700's and ended up buying some used AP1's - happy so far. The Pings performance was great - high and far - just didn't like the sound.

  • agolf1agolf1 Members Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @oiler45 said:
    I don't consider myself a feel player at all but after a couple of months I just couldn't stand the feel or sound of my G700's. I'd actually have guys I was paired up with ask me what I'm hitting cause they sound so "off" when hit thin, especially off the tee. I demoed the G410's but didn't love them either. I sold my '700's and ended up buying some used AP1's - happy so far. The Pings performance was great - high and far - just didn't like the sound.

    Are they any worse than hitting a hybrid? Understand there is a difference in what people are accustomed to with a 19 degree hybrid vs a 45 degree PW but is the actual feel/sound any worse? I've thought about getting the G410/400 26 and 30 degree hybrids and then some irons. Basically wondering if the G700s are something of a compromise.

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  • oiler45oiler45 Members Posts: 269 ✭✭✭✭

    I do think they sound worse than a hybrid - or maybe you're kinda expecting a hybrid to sound a certain way - not sure. When the G700 is hit flush they feel and sound ok - but mis-hit them a bit and they sound real strange. Performance is great -and I think they look fine - but ...

  • short gameshort game Members Posts: 297 ✭✭✭✭

    i went the opposite way. Had i200's and changed to the 410's. Good move for me.. Hitting more greens. Love the shape of the 410's. The feel is a bit hollow - not as soft as the i200's. i loved the 200's on the range - just couldn't bring that game to the course.

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