Grinding a wedge!!!!

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  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    edited Apr 1, 2007 #62
    Here is the one i did for a player!



    Refinished it w/ bead blast finish!



    I'll add some more pics when i have time and found all the pics.
  • lefty92lefty92 Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,263
    joey3108 wrote on Mar 31 2007, 11:59 PM:
    Here is the one i did for a player!



    Refinished it w/ bead blast finish!



    I'll add some more pics when i have time and found all the pics.


    Wow, awesome!
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    edited Apr 1, 2007 #64
    THX!



    Here are some more w/ M grind combine w/ P grind on it.



    The P grind is act like a second bounce, It kicks the club up...thus it will lift the ball up and drop it soft on the green, especially out of the bunker. The M grind will still allow you to lay the club open from a tight lie. This combination grinds will allows the players to be a bit more aggressive from almost any lie.
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  • lefty92lefty92 Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,263
    joey3108 wrote on Apr 1 2007, 02:32 PM:
    THX!



    Here are some more w/ M grind combine w/ P grind on it.



    The P grind is act like a second bounce, It kicks the club up...thus it will lift the ball up and drop it soft on the green, especially out of the bunker. The M grind will still allow you to lay the club open from a tight lie. This combination grinds will allows the players to me a bit more agressive from almost any lie.


    You got that from Solus wedges didn't you? image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />

    But honestly Joe, you are a machine!
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    golfercody wrote on Apr 1 2007, 03:22 PM:
    joey3108 wrote on Apr 1 2007, 02:32 PM:
    THX!



    Here are some more w/ M grind combine w/ P grind on it.



    The P grind is act like a second bounce, It kicks the club up...thus it will lift the ball up and drop it soft on the green, especially out of the bunker. The M grind will still allow you to lay the club open from a tight lie. This combination grinds will allows the players to me a bit more agressive from almost any lie.


    You got that from Solus wedges didn't you? image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />

    But honestly Joe, you are a machine!


    Well! Solus got it from Titty and who knows where titty got it from and so on.



    All i know is from a guy who likes their worn out wedge but asking for a new groves not sole shape, so that is where the story came from long long time ago. Of course a little birdy told me that! image/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':beach:' />
  • lefty92lefty92 Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,263
    Ahh, I see. Well keep it up Joe. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
  • DynoDyno Charter Members Posts: 1,902
    If I could grind like that, I'd never leave the house. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':partytime2:' />
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    Dyno wrote on Jun 2 2007, 05:39 PM:
    If I could grind like that, I'd never leave the house. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheesy:' />


    You'll loose more hair !!! LMAO!
  • tbc777tbc777 Members Posts: 465
    hey master joey you are soooo right. you should see my shop. i clean it one day and in a matter of hours, then BAM just like magic it's dirty again... nice grind man.........
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    edited Dec 18, 2007 #71
    Are you back in town yet?



    See, Finally some body agree on that one, i mean no one should touch our tools. image/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheesy:' />



    Chikara looks pretty good too Carl! image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smilie_ping:' />
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  • Eye-O-MaticEye-O-Matic Members Posts: 11
    Not trying to step in on the discussion, but felt I can add a few things.



    when grinding you will find that you need a softer surface than a hard grinding wheel, becuase the wheel is hard and can only take off in a limited area of the head, but with a belt sander (some do have additional pulleys) to give that extra effect like a rubber wheel you can remove more material faster. But Joe may have solved the problem by going to a drill.



    It's really easy, just find some old heads and grind away and you'll really pic up some knowledge fast.



    I use a 1x42 and use a finishing belt which is the cheapest and best way I have found for getting a decent satin finish.



    Also you can reshape the toes on some clubs, which to me is a must and why I started grinding myself, but the BV are the absolute best with their teardrop shape.
  • Eye-O-MaticEye-O-Matic Members Posts: 11
    Hey all-

    Golfworks does sell a cool attachment for a grinder but for a littel less someone can use this...



    Expander Wheel



    http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product...m_mmc=undefined



    this may be good for alot less
  • rgjusargjusa Members Posts: 413
    Eye-O-Matic wrote on Sep 23 2007, 02:43 AM:
    Hey all-

    Golfworks does sell a cool attachment for a grinder but for a littel less someone can use this...



    Expander Wheel



    http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product...m_mmc=undefined



    this may be good for alot less




    I am not knocking it as I have not tried it, but the RPM may be a limiting factor. The multitool attachments can be had for a lot less than GW/GS sell them for. This is very good:



    Multitool
  • UNC41UNC41 Members Posts: 69
    Joe, that combo P and M grind looks awesome. Do you have a website because I would love to send you my 58* this winter?
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    UNC41 wrote on Sep 28 2007, 06:19 PM:
    Joe, that combo P and M grind looks awesome. Do you have a website because I would love to send you my 58* this winter?


    YOu can just send me an email to [email protected]



    JOe
  • cdnputtercdnputter Members Posts: 1
    Joe,



    Thanks for sharing your insight and experience, very very helpful.



    I'm curious though, in the pics you were applying a M grind? For a P grind do you use a different wheel in your drill? Or just change the angle of the clubhead and use the edge of the wheel?



    Cheers!
  • binnegurubinneguru resident tinkerer Members Posts: 498
    I have a delta grinder/sander with a big rubber wheel on the front. It works great. I also have the expanding rubber thing with the loop of sandpaper that goes on it. That works great as well.



    I dabbled in grinding wedges for a while, so all this stuff is wasting away in the shed image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':russian_roulette:' />
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    edited Dec 8, 2007 #79
    cdnputter wrote on Dec 7 2007, 12:05 PM:
    Joe,



    Thanks for sharing your insight and experience, very very helpful.



    I'm curious though, in the pics you were applying a M grind? For a P grind do you use a different wheel in your drill? Or just change the angle of the clubhead and use the edge of the wheel?



    Cheers!


    YES on the edge of the wheel for Initial cut to a certain size, depth and lenght that i will end up with later.



    Drum sander is the wheel i used to shape it like an elongated tear drop. The angle of the tear drop are critical on the club reaction when hit. Lots of checking and testing on my front lawn. LOL!



    I'm still trying to improve and finding a way to make them easier and more consistent without sacrificing finish quality, in fact trying to improve too if possible. Those are basically my charracter in everything i do in live, it's about improving them. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':russian_roulette:' />
  • ClubtunerClubtuner Members Posts: 517
    Joe, I know this may sound a bit primitive, but have you ever shaped them by hand with files?

    I do a fair amount of grinding myself, and I find that I can really sculpt and shape the wedge

    that way. Then finish it using a couple of different wheels and belts, depending on the finish

    one requests.
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    Those are probably 15 years ago when i don't have all the right machine yet to invest. I'm even thinking of going to the next level investing a better machine. I found a few that are just amazing but still requires hand skill and good eyes. I really have to be honest, Artistic sense and technicallity on how to play it are very big in this wedge grinding or shaping IMO. Just grinding only is easy but grinds that works are not IMO!



    Joe
  • dont know anything on this topic but was wondering what all does grinding do to your wedge, does it just remove some bounce from the club
  • phat2naphat2na Members Posts: 59
    Thanks for the pics, always wanted to grind'em down.



    This will come in handy.
  • Mookie91Mookie91 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭
    Joe



    My Cleveland 588 leading edge is somewhat rounded while my Hogan is pretty much a straight line is there any grinding that will get the Hogan closer to a rounded look. I have always liked an open look on all my clubs and the only way to achieve that now is addressing the ball with the heel off the ground but it corrects on the way down resulting in a pull. Plus the bounce is only 6 degrees so it would be nice to have the M grind to be able to play different shots. Let me know what you think when you can. I also sent you a less detailed e-mail. Thanks for your time and have a great day.



    Matt Bacon
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  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    Mookie91 wrote on Feb 3 2008, 10:31 AM:
    Joe



    My Cleveland 588 leading edge is somewhat rounded while my Hogan is pretty much a straight line is there any grinding that will get the Hogan closer to a rounded look. I have always liked an open look on all my clubs and the only way to achieve that now is addressing the ball with the heel off the ground but it corrects on the way down resulting in a pull. Plus the bounce is only 6 degrees so it would be nice to have the M grind to be able to play different shots. Let me know what you think when you can. I also sent you a less detailed e-mail. Thanks for your time and have a great day.



    Matt Bacon
    You can make the leading edge blunted or beveled and at the same time rise a bit of the bounce by grinding the front part of the bounce. However, you'll create a little off set look that way.
  • FanaticFanatic Posts: 111
    Joe,



    Thanks for the pictures and information. That was great. Just a quick question. Do you measure the bounce before and after grinding? I know you weigh the head before and after, but what about the bounce? Is there a limit in terms of how much weight to remove for certain grinds, or is it all by look and feel?



    I want to grind my own wedges and Im not one to take deep divots. I want a grind that will enable me to open up the club face without having my leading edge coming off the ground. Would the m grind suffice? Do you grind the trailing edge as well when doing an M grind?



    What other grinds are out there (aside from M (same as C?) and P) and if you could explain a little about each one, that would be great!



    Thanks!!!!
  • Mookie91Mookie91 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭
    Just saw the Chikara wedge, is there any way to get that 5 way cut sole on a OEM wedge?
    TaylorMade M4 9.5 Project X HZRDUS Black 75 6.5
    TaylorMade M2 2016 HL Project X HZRDUS Black 65 6.5
    TaylorMade GAPR Lo 19 Project X HZRDUS Black 85 6.5
    Bridgestone J15 DPF 4 Iron DGS300 Pro
    Wilson C300 Forged 5-PW X100
    Cleveland CBX 54 & 58 S400
    Odyssey Works Tank Cruiser #7 38"
  • chipinoneputtchipinoneputt Members Posts: 35
    How to make that P-grind?



    Can someone explain/show?
  • joey3108joey3108 Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrx Bay AreaMarshals Posts: 7,844 mod
    edited Feb 26, 2008 #89
    Fanatic,

    How precise you need them to be? 1* of bounce will not gonna feel that much different for average Joe Golfer. Of course I could measure them before and after, but i'm more of a feel grinder by looking how it lay on the ground to get the right look at set up possition and then measure it if I need to grind some more accordingly.



    You might want to do some SEARCH for what grind for what type of play. I've posted quite a bit before. Or check on some of OEM site for they wedge grind explanation.



    Mookie91,

    There is always a way as long as you start with the right amount of bounce initially.





    Chipinoneputt,

    Every artists ( that is what i call them for master grinder image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> ) are different and have their own way to manipulate their tools and how to use them. The right tools will make the job easier for sure.
  • ragu421ragu421 Posts: 343
    Wow! That 60* Vokey looks great. What grind do you call that and what would you charge me to do my SW and LW?They are forged Sonartec's and Im afraid Ill ruin them but would like a little more versatility as far as manipulating the club head.Is there a finish or something you spray or dip in order to keep from rusting?Im not a big fan of the "raw" wedges except for the reduced glare.I kinda dig the satin or tour chrome look even though you still get some glare.

    Thanks very much!
  • SamsquanchSamsquanch Lefty Boomers Posts: 1,568 ✭✭
    Thanks a lot Joe, this is awesome. image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':clapping:' />
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