Best career to have that allows one to play a large amount of golf...

[Sam-Tee-Time]

SALES - But……as others mentioned, you need to be in the right sales job. High-end services and equipment sales, with a Fortune 200 client base, very premium clients and services, and professionally run is the best deal for golf. It's expected, popular, and as a high-end sales rep, you'll have the respect for your time to allow you to golf often.

 

Entry-level sales = NOT.

 

Private Airline PILOT - The ultimate is a private pilot for a large company's private jet, or perhaps a commercial airline pilot. They have odd schedules, and are often "on" for a couple of days, then "off" for several days. Due to FAA regulations, they also are not allowed to work too many days in a row.

 

REAL ESTATE - My observation of high-end real estate personnel (brokers, etc.) is they are very busy, but have a VERY VERY flexible work hours schedule. They work hard (usually), but I also see them lavishing clients around the golf courses and resorts of the world.

 

Mid-Level MANAGER - If you're too low on the food chain (like me) at a corporation, you'll be working too hard. Too High on the food chain, and your job is critical, visible, and usually very important. In the MIDDLE - you can have some levity to take off, goof around, and send work down to the entry level minions. Most Mid Managers everywhere I worked have the luxury of free time (and $$$$$).

[iskysoma01]

Hotel Concierge (Its what I do). Most Courses let you play free and I work 7am - 3pm.

[jared]

insurance, insurance and insurance...

 

a few years back pharmaceutical and medical device sales wouldnt have been bad, however, the new laws in place dont allow it any longer. plus if you get into pharmaceutical sales you will be pigeon-holing yourself both with salary and a lot of sales industries like medical device sales(which is a lot more lucrative) wont hire a pharmaceutical salesperson...sales is getting pretty specialized.

 

all sales are changing so much nowadays that they arent like the sales positions like our fathers and grandfathers had where they were wining and dining and taking clients out to golf. most positions are setting you up where you are attached to gps so they can monitor your every movement and everyone is tightening their belts as far as "buying" their clients and customers.

 

work for yourself and sell insurance if you want to play a lot of golf.

 

Could not disagree more. Pharmaceuticals will not let you pay for golf for a physician however it still goes on all the time and there are not many reps with non sampled drugs that are working more than 20 hours a week hence leaving a lot of free time. You want to talk about pigeon holing yourself insurance is probably the best way to do that. Get two years under your belt at a sold specialty pharma company and you will never make less than 90k a year EVER again.

[dmagalhaes]

The Mortgage industry for me. I work for the largest retail bank in the world. I play just about everyday. I'm not in my office until 10 usually and am out by 4 the latest. Lots of golf..

[FlyFish]

Nursing. Because they are in such short supply, hospitals are offering very flexible schedules and the pay is good.

 

One nurse I know works 2 12 hour shifts, has 2 days off, works another 2 12 hour shifts and then has 4 days off.

 

You could also work evening shift (3:00 - 12:00) and play golf every day if you wanted.

 

You can also get the much cheaper Mon-Fri rate at some private clubs.

[stasek]

What do you think are the best jobs to have that allow ample playing and practicing time? Opinions, suggestions, and comments are more than welcome.

 

Any business that you own yourself. Of course, if it's a struggling business, it could be the complete opposite.

 

 

Bingo!

I'm a home builder/general contractor and get to play pretty much as much golf as I want to (just don't tell my wife :cheesy: ).

[SadTrombone]

Private Airline PILOT - The ultimate is a private pilot for a large company's private jet, or perhaps a commercial airline pilot. They have odd schedules, and are often "on" for a couple of days, then "off" for several days. Due to FAA regulations, they also are not allowed to work too many days in a row.

I'll disagree with this one. Getting into aviation is a good way to go broke, get divorced, and separate yourself from the golf course very quickly. Now, once you've been there for years and years and you know everyone on God's Earth, then you may find yourself a decent job that is an 8 on / 7 off schedule...but most of those are going away.

 

A place I recently interviewed at used to have an 8 on /7 off schedule but have now gone to "flex schedule" (read: fly every day) to keep the airplanes crewed (read: make more money).

 

Aviation is a great hobby and I really love teaching it.........but I don't think being a "professional pilot" (especially when you're first starting) is the way to spend time on the golf course.

 

-mini

[oregongolf]

Private Airline PILOT - The ultimate is a private pilot for a large company's private jet, or perhaps a commercial airline pilot. They have odd schedules, and are often "on" for a couple of days, then "off" for several days. Due to FAA regulations, they also are not allowed to work too many days in a row.

I'll disagree with this one. Getting into aviation is a good way to go broke, get divorced, and separate yourself from the golf course very quickly. Now, once you've been there for years and years and you know everyone on God's Earth, then you may find yourself a decent job that is an 8 on / 7 off schedule...but most of those are going away.

 

A place I recently interviewed at used to have an 8 on /7 off schedule but have now gone to "flex schedule" (read: fly every day) to keep the airplanes crewed (read: make more money).

 

Aviation is a great hobby and I really love teaching it.........but I don't think being a "professional pilot" (especially when you're first starting) is the way to spend time on the golf course.

 

-mini

 

Maybe he meant a commercial airline pilot?

 

They make a ton of money and can only fly a set number of hours a month. I know airline pilots that take their clubs with them when they travel and play a little golf on their extended layovers.

[thekingtcb]

Pornstar.

 

 

Postives:

-You get to work with other Club Ho's

-If you can do this, the first tee jitters seem like nothing

-Make your own schedule

 

Negatives:

-Since your working with your woods all day, your iron play suffers

-A good short game will get you nowhere, its all about length nowadays

-After working on Barely 18 all day, you can barely play 18 without some back pain

[oregongolf]

Pornstar.

 

 

Postives:

-You get to work with other Club Ho's

-If you can do this, the first tee jitters seem like nothing

-Make your own schedule

 

Negatives:

-Since your working with your woods all day, your iron play suffers

-A good short game will get you nowhere, its all about length nowadays

-After working on Barely 18 all day, you can barely play 18 without some back pain

lol.

 

at a loss for words.

 

funny though. :cheesy:

[boon44]

Pornstar.

 

 

Postives:

-You get to work with other Club Ho's

-If you can do this, the first tee jitters seem like nothing

-Make your own schedule

 

Negatives:

-Since your working with your woods all day, your iron play suffers

-A good short game will get you nowhere, its all about length nowadays

-After working on Barely 18 all day, you can barely play 18 without some back pain

 

Great idea!!!......Now....do I tell the wife?.....hmmmmm

 

 

 

 

ahahahahaha

[thekingtcb]

Pornstar.

 

 

Postives:

-You get to work with other Club Ho's

-If you can do this, the first tee jitters seem like nothing

-Make your own schedule

 

Negatives:

-Since your working with your woods all day, your iron play suffers

-A good short game will get you nowhere, its all about length nowadays

-After working on Barely 18 all day, you can barely play 18 without some back pain

 

Great idea!!!......Now....do I tell the wife?.....hmmmmm

 

 

 

 

ahahahahaha

 

 

 

Sooner or later, she will probably start asking questions about your new mustache, so I would just be as honest as you are when you acquire new clubs.

 

Another work negative I forgot to add:

It's almost impossible to upgrade you driver, so get comfortable with it. And if you need to tee off with your 3 wood, find another profession.

[MR. C]

I hope being a pharmacist will leave plenty of time for golf!

 

my brother is a tattoo artist and he plays ALL the time, but I guess anyone that owns their own business would be in the same boat.

[Lowpro]

NOT in the golf industry** bartender. have their days off and less crowded... :drinks:

[ace036]

Does anyone know the average salaries for assistant pro., head pro., director of golf, etc... I know that there are a lot of variables that come in o play when determining this...but I was just curious. I still can't seem to shake the thought of directing my career path toward the golfing industry. I truely love and enjoy the game. I just wish one could make a little more money doing it. If someone were to enter into the golfing industry what field do you recommend they enter?

[smittysbar]

Own a bar. Play almost every day.

[squarre]

I hope being a pharmacist will leave plenty of time for golf!

 

my brother is a tattoo artist and he plays ALL the time, but I guess anyone that owns their own business would be in the same boat.

A pharmacist schedule should be pretty good for playing. My wife is a pharmacist (but doesn't play) and I have often thought the schedule would be pretty good. Basically she works two 12 hour shifts and then has 2 days off. The only negative I see is that in retail it is usually every other weekend, but the off days during the week make up for it.

[mhccap]

insurance, insurance and insurance...

 

a few years back pharmaceutical and medical device sales wouldnt have been bad, however, the new laws in place dont allow it any longer. plus if you get into pharmaceutical sales you will be pigeon-holing yourself both with salary and a lot of sales industries like medical device sales(which is a lot more lucrative) wont hire a pharmaceutical salesperson...sales is getting pretty specialized.

 

all sales are changing so much nowadays that they arent like the sales positions like our fathers and grandfathers had where they were wining and dining and taking clients out to golf. most positions are setting you up where you are attached to gps so they can monitor your every movement and everyone is tightening their belts as far as "buying" their clients and customers.

 

work for yourself and sell insurance if you want to play a lot of golf.

 

Could not disagree more. Pharmaceuticals will not let you pay for golf for a physician however it still goes on all the time and there are not many reps with non sampled drugs that are working more than 20 hours a week hence leaving a lot of free time. You want to talk about pigeon holing yourself insurance is probably the best way to do that. Get two years under your belt at a sold specialty pharma company and you will never make less than 90k a year EVER again.

but thats all you will get...if youre happy topping out at 90K, then get into pharmaceutical sales...but if youre not happy being limited to 90k and want to move from pharmaceutical sales to something like medical device sales to make more money...GOOD LUCK, no one will touch you...

 

Does anyone know the average salaries for assistant pro., head pro., director of golf, etc... I know that there are a lot of variables that come in o play when determining this...but I was just curious. I still can't seem to shake the thought of directing my career path toward the golfing industry. I truely love and enjoy the game. I just wish one could make a little more money doing it. If someone were to enter into the golfing industry what field do you recommend they enter?

 

this is an imposible question to answer due to all of the different variables...and more importantly, it will depend on your ability as a player, a teacher and how well you promote yourself and network. what part of the country you are in is the biggest factor in this equation.

[oregongolf]

honestly, the best advice you'll ever get is this:

 

do what you truly love to do and the time and money will follow.

 

i've found there's always time to golf with any profession. although at the end of the day, if you're coming home from a sht job, i would bet you're not going to want to do much of anything.

[pitch]

Hooker or Male Prostitute. Nearly all of your work is at night so you have the daylight hours free to golf.

[nyhacker]

Ceratinly not medicine anymore. Training to be a doctor = currently shooting in the 90s. I lose at least 10 strokes because of my lack of short game practice. What happened to the glory days of doctors playing tons of golf.

[SadTrombone]

Maybe he meant a commercial airline pilot?

 

They make a ton of money and can only fly a set number of hours a month. I know airline pilots that take their clubs with them when they travel and play a little golf on their extended layovers.

Well, he did say "Private" pilot for a "...large company..." so I'm pretty sure he was talking about corporate pilot but being a commercial airline pilot is even worse.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

I'm sorry...I read the "they make a ton of money..." part and..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I just can't stop.

 

While airline (I'll include Scheduled airline and Charter pilots here) pilots are limited on their time (roughly 100 hours of FLYING per month), they hardly make a "ton of money" unless you're talking about captains with US Airways or Delta or Continental that have been there since the dawn of time.

 

A new hire in the airline industry is going to make about $18/hr. Not bad right? Consider your guarantee pay is around 75 hours a month and you're looking at about $20k/year. Can it be more? Sure...if you max out, bid better lines (if you can hold them), etc. How much disposable income will you have at that level? Take out uniforms, crash pad (gotta have a place close to your base or live there...do you want to rent or move?), union dues, medical, etc.

 

I'll just stop because I could go on for hours and hours about the airline industry. The bottom line is, if you want to see how much you'll make as an airline pilot, go to www.airlinepilotpay.com

 

Check out the "Regional" airlines because that is where you will start. You'll have 13 "Bids" per year. There's an automatic calculator that will tell you your annual income. Just set it to your first year "FO" hourly pay and your minimum guarantee (that's all you're guaranteed to get paid for...if you fly more, you get paid more, if not...you don't). It's pretty eye opening.

 

As for being on extended layovers, you must be talking to captains for the legacy carriers that have been there a while. Most Regionals send the pilots out and back, out and back, maybe a RON, but out and back a lot.

 

Seriously, I don't want to discourage aviation...that's how I make a good deal of money is by teaching people to fly (though I'm going to be selling insurance again too), but if you're serious about getting into the airlines/commercial aviation, please PM me. I'll be glad to sit down and talk to you about it.

 

Short story long, if you're looking to get rich and have time to golf - aviation ain't it right now.

 

-mini

 

PS

If you're looking at possibly getting into insurance, I'm looking for a few agents to work out of my Unit. Drop me a PM and I'll be glad to discuss that with you also.

 

...it's what I'd recommend. I'm playing 9 Sunday, 36 Monday, 18 Thursday and 18 Saturday (next week)...THAT'S rockin!!

[Ty Webb]

Own a bar. Play almost every day.

 

 

Own 3 sports bars...play 4-5 times a week...plus I get free drinks, so I got that going for me... :beach:

[WRXJIM]

Flight attendant :beach: I get to play all over the world :good: Garenteed 12 days off a month to boot :cheesy: I usually get 15 at least though.

 

I cant complain about the money... Maybe I earn more than a Pilot :cheesy: Wouldnt suprise me, we have a higher limit of flying hours per month (150) but I normally only do 110 - 120ish...

[JMG_02]

Maybe he meant a commercial airline pilot?

 

They make a ton of money and can only fly a set number of hours a month. I know airline pilots that take their clubs with them when they travel and play a little golf on their extended layovers.

Well, he did say "Private" pilot for a "...large company..." so I'm pretty sure he was talking about corporate pilot but being a commercial airline pilot is even worse.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

I'm sorry...I read the "they make a ton of money..." part and..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I just can't stop.

 

While airline (I'll include Scheduled airline and Charter pilots here) pilots are limited on their time (roughly 100 hours of FLYING per month), they hardly make a "ton of money" unless you're talking about captains with US Airways or Delta or Continental that have been there since the dawn of time.

 

A new hire in the airline industry is going to make about $18/hr. Not bad right? Consider your guarantee pay is around 75 hours a month and you're looking at about $20k/year. Can it be more? Sure...if you max out, bid better lines (if you can hold them), etc. How much disposable income will you have at that level? Take out uniforms, crash pad (gotta have a place close to your base or live there...do you want to rent or move?), union dues, medical, etc.

 

I'll just stop because I could go on for hours and hours about the airline industry. The bottom line is, if you want to see how much you'll make as an airline pilot, go to www.airlinepilotpay.com

 

Check out the "Regional" airlines because that is where you will start. You'll have 13 "Bids" per year. There's an automatic calculator that will tell you your annual income. Just set it to your first year "FO" hourly pay and your minimum guarantee (that's all you're guaranteed to get paid for...if you fly more, you get paid more, if not...you don't). It's pretty eye opening.

 

As for being on extended layovers, you must be talking to captains for the legacy carriers that have been there a while. Most Regionals send the pilots out and back, out and back, maybe a RON, but out and back a lot.

 

Seriously, I don't want to discourage aviation...that's how I make a good deal of money is by teaching people to fly (though I'm going to be selling insurance again too), but if you're serious about getting into the airlines/commercial aviation, please PM me. I'll be glad to sit down and talk to you about it.

 

Short story long, if you're looking to get rich and have time to golf - aviation ain't it right now.

 

-mini

 

PS

If you're looking at possibly getting into insurance, I'm looking for a few agents to work out of my Unit. Drop me a PM and I'll be glad to discuss that with you also.

 

...it's what I'd recommend. I'm playing 9 Sunday, 36 Monday, 18 Thursday and 18 Saturday (next week)...THAT'S rockin!!

 

Haha, great post mini. Maybe we should send them over to flightinfo.com and ask that question.

 

Mini has it right...I too taught ppl how to fly...fun...not much money. I now (funny enough) am in insurance sales. Set to take over the family agency in a few years. Aviation is a blast, but like he said...its the fast way to get broke and come down with AIDS (Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome).

[leetch]

Financial Advisor (aka Stock Broker) - once you are established - you'll be golfing a ton. Why do you think so many stockbrokers are good golfers? :beach:

[SadTrombone]

Maybe he meant a commercial airline pilot?

 

They make a ton of money and can only fly a set number of hours a month. I know airline pilots that take their clubs with them when they travel and play a little golf on their extended layovers.

Well, he did say "Private" pilot for a "...large company..." so I'm pretty sure he was talking about corporate pilot but being a commercial airline pilot is even worse.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

I'm sorry...I read the "they make a ton of money..." part and..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I just can't stop.

 

While airline (I'll include Scheduled airline and Charter pilots here) pilots are limited on their time (roughly 100 hours of FLYING per month), they hardly make a "ton of money" unless you're talking about captains with US Airways or Delta or Continental that have been there since the dawn of time.

 

A new hire in the airline industry is going to make about $18/hr. Not bad right? Consider your guarantee pay is around 75 hours a month and you're looking at about $20k/year. Can it be more? Sure...if you max out, bid better lines (if you can hold them), etc. How much disposable income will you have at that level? Take out uniforms, crash pad (gotta have a place close to your base or live there...do you want to rent or move?), union dues, medical, etc.

 

I'll just stop because I could go on for hours and hours about the airline industry. The bottom line is, if you want to see how much you'll make as an airline pilot, go to www.airlinepilotpay.com

 

Check out the "Regional" airlines because that is where you will start. You'll have 13 "Bids" per year. There's an automatic calculator that will tell you your annual income. Just set it to your first year "FO" hourly pay and your minimum guarantee (that's all you're guaranteed to get paid for...if you fly more, you get paid more, if not...you don't). It's pretty eye opening.

 

As for being on extended layovers, you must be talking to captains for the legacy carriers that have been there a while. Most Regionals send the pilots out and back, out and back, maybe a RON, but out and back a lot.

 

Seriously, I don't want to discourage aviation...that's how I make a good deal of money is by teaching people to fly (though I'm going to be selling insurance again too), but if you're serious about getting into the airlines/commercial aviation, please PM me. I'll be glad to sit down and talk to you about it.

 

Short story long, if you're looking to get rich and have time to golf - aviation ain't it right now.

 

-mini

 

PS

If you're looking at possibly getting into insurance, I'm looking for a few agents to work out of my Unit. Drop me a PM and I'll be glad to discuss that with you also.

 

...it's what I'd recommend. I'm playing 9 Sunday, 36 Monday, 18 Thursday and 18 Saturday (next week)...THAT'S rockin!!

 

Haha, great post mini. Maybe we should send them over to flightinfo.com and ask that question.

 

Mini has it right...I too taught ppl how to fly...fun...not much money. I now (funny enough) am in insurance sales. Set to take over the family agency in a few years. Aviation is a blast, but like he said...its the fast way to get broke and come down with AIDS (Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome).

nah...not FI unless he's got an asbestos suit or seven.

 

Next time I'm your way we'll have to go play somewhere. You going to the PGA by chance?

 

-mini

[BlackLab]

Firefighter. I work 24 hours shifts 9 or 10 days a month the other 20 are mine. The only thing that sucks if that all my friends have sucker monday-friday jobs and aren't around to play during the week and I hate playing weekends. Factor in personal time and vaction and I work about 100 days a year and if your really need a day off you just get someone else to work for you.

 

Yep, I work 10 days a month and most of my co workers golf. One guy plays about 6 rounds a week and is a 3 handicap as of now. Another one got a second job at the local course so he plays for free and hits on the range for free. Also the pay and benefits are great.

[bennet00]

I think an important thing to remember, is that you are probably going to break into very few fields, and immediately have lots of time off for golf, and make "tons" of money. Someone else said on this topic, that money does not necessarily equal a great quality of life, and I think this is true (Of course a little money never hurts).

 

For the commercial airline bashers out there, I think your information is a bit dated. The money is no longer with legacy carriers such as Continental, US Air, or Delta. The most competive salaries are now with companies like Southwest, Jet Blue, Fedex, and UPS (working for any of these companies has its plusses and minuses, although that is another topic). Working as a Certified Flight Instructor, Regional Pilot, or Corporate guy, will never make you money, and will not leave you lots of time off, but most people do this as a way to build hours to move up the food chain. However, if you put in the time and do get hired you will be making a "decent" living after 3 to 5 years with a major carrier (By decent I mean 100K to 200K), and working 12 to 16 days a month (plus travel if you do not live where you are based). To me, that equates to a pretty good life that includes a fair amount of golf. YMMV.

 

OK, threadjack/rant over.

 

Good luck in choosing your career!!!

 

 

One last thing who gets more girls, Insurance Agents or Pilots? :tongue:

 

FLY NAVY!!!

[WRXJIM]

I wasnt going to get into the "pilot" arguement, but the pilots at my Airline seem to do alright...

 

and to top it off we only work a max of 18 days, and its usually only 16 tops...

 

The best thing is that when you arent working there are NO "clients" or other job related worries... you just walk off the plane and your done.

 

The only time work effects me on the course is when I have a mid afternoon showtime and Im following a slow group, which means I might not get my 18 in :secret:

 

I dunno about Pilots getting more girls :yes: they like to think they do :tongue: