Titleist AVX- is it just me....

[Llortamaisey]

> @trackcoach13 said:

> > @Llortamaisey said:

> > > @JD3 said:

> > > > @MrShield said:

> > > > > @From_Parts_Unknown said:

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> > > > > > Played a round with AVX today. Man I love this ball. Long irons, short irons, wedges, chipping, putting - everything is world class for a high spin player like me. BUT it’s absolutely horrible for driving, way too soft and is at least 10-15 yards shorter carry than 2019 Pro V1. The total run out (because of lower spin) makes it only about 5 yards difference in total, but there are bunkers on my home course that is absolutely impossible to carry with AVX.

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> > > > > > I really hope Titleist address this in a coming release, I love everything else about AVX. Especially the drop and stop on the green compared to 5 meters of uncontrollable backspin with V1.

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> > > > > It will be a completely different ball, but you might like the new Left Dash Pro V1 that's coming out in about 6 weeks. It's been a tour only ball until now. Several players have switched to it on tour since it's release a few years ago. Think of it as a firmer AVX with a Pro V1 urethane cover. It's got more layers than the AVX too.

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> > > > Sounds too good to be true! :smile:

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> > > What am I missing? AVX is urethane already. Sincerely hope they don't change it. Love that ball.

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> > AVX has a different urethane than the Pro V1 models, including the tour only balls.

> I found this blurb:

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> It (AVX) is still a three piece ball, but unlike most other soft balls in the market it uses a similar cast urethane cover to the Pro V1 called GRN41. **Basically the ingredients are the same but the formulation is _slightly_ different.**

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Thanks for finding that. I knew there was something different, besides the catenary construction of the dimples, but I couldn’t remember exactly how.

[North Butte]

I know manufacturers like to trumpet various details of a ball's construction in their marketing material because some people are really into that sort of thing. But a ball does what it does. Without trying the, it's impossible to know whether a "GRN41" formulation of urethane is better, worse, different, whatever compared to any other kind of urethane.

 

If a ball is shorter or longer, flies higher or lower, reacts differently in the short game...how does one know that difference is because of "GRN41" versus being different dimples or different thickness of the layers versus different pain versus any other of the dozens of details that go into a ball?

 

> @Albatross71 said:

> Low cap high swing guy who produces alot of spin, been playing the AVX for a while now. I agree with OP about the advertising, also hard to justify the price for a ball that for me and my swing is very similar to the Pro V1. Recently though I have switched over to the Mizuno RB Tour ball and have found it to be pretty amazing as well. Only issue I have with it is wedges tear it up and its basically done after 9 holes.

 

I tried a sleeve of RB Tour X and it was a perfectly fine urethane ball. But for me the durability, as you found, was abysmal. Haven't seen a ball so easily bruise or scraped in years. And the price is within a few cents a ball of Pro V1x prices. Hard to see the Mizuno as a value proposition.