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12 hours ago, Newby said:

Perhaps a downside is that using it friendly play may cause confusion if it is not permitted for use in handicap qualifying rounds by a ruling of the national authority

 

Exactly. Also there is a risk that people use E-5 in a competition due to having used to use it on other rounds.

 

E-5 is worthless until it can be used on handicap rounds. After that it only remains confusing.

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12 hours ago, Augster said:

 

With an OB ball, you did not keep your ball on the course. A complete failure. By rule, you AREN’T ALLOWED to play the ball even if you find it OB and it is totally playable. 

Right, which is why I said treat it just like a lateral with the exception of the option of playing it where it lies.  That would protect Mr. Schlep's back yard from divots and avoid the extra stroke (or the walk of shame if the local rule is not in effect).  Just seems a little arbitrary to me, but the rules be what they be.

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3 hours ago, Newby said:

The R&A has nothing to do with it, they are not the Authorised Association. The authority in this case is England Golf via a CONGU agreement. 👍🏼

 

Yes, hang your head in shame and trudge back to the tee. Even though there's a viable alternative provided for you in the Rules of Golf. 😉

Knowledge of the Rules is part of the applied skill set which a player must use to play competitive golf.

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48 minutes ago, Girevik said:

Right, which is why I said treat it just like a lateral with the exception of the option of playing it where it lies.  That would protect Mr. Schlep's back yard from divots and avoid the extra stroke (or the walk of shame if the local rule is not in effect).  Just seems a little arbitrary to me, but the rules be what they be.

 

It would lessen the penalty of hitting a ball OB and therefore make people more willing to take the risk of hitting a ball there, which in turn will subject those areas to more damage to property and more dangerous to living creatures.

 

Determining the point where the ball went out and taking proper relief is also slower than simply playing a provisional ball. The fact the need would arise more often would make it only worse.

 

Never mind the fact you'd oftentimes need to find the ball OB, which would mean trespassing in many places, to confirm the ball was OB as opposed to being lost on the course.

 

But the biggest question is, what's wrong with having areas with possibly different results? In my opinion it just makes courses more interesting as you ponder the best way to navigate it. To me it sounds a bit like complaining about a restaurant offering more than a single menu item.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

Exactly. Also there is a risk that people use E-5 in a competition due to having used to use it on other rounds.

 

E-5 is worthless until it can be used on handicap rounds. After that it only remains confusing.


E-5 can be used in handicap rounds in the US. Guess it’s not confusing any more for us. 

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Thankfully the leagues I play in allow E-5. While there are scenarios where it would likely never be used (most par 3s) it takes hitting 5 or 7 off the tee on a difficult hole out of the equation. 

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1 minute ago, RSinSG said:

Thankfully the leagues I play in allow E-5. While there are scenarios where it would likely never be used (most par 3s) it takes hitting 5 or 7 off the tee on a difficult hole out of the equation. 

 

I am sure it does. However, there is an alternative. On a challenging hole let your driver stay in the bag. Saves even more strokes...

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