Titleist 2023 irons

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2 hours ago, simontam said:

I was just at a Titleist fitting yesterday. Planned to really put the T200's through it's paces since I had the 2021 T200's. I had recently swapped out my 2021 T200's for a combo ZX7 (5-7)/ZX5 (8-P) and I loved them so far. Guy had me start with T100's (I said why not) and surprisingly I loved them. Maybe 5yds shorter than compared to 2021 T200 but solid. Really loved the extra tungsten weighting at the bottom of the club. Then hit the T150's, loved them too. Didn't notice any perceptible difference in the size. Finally hit the T200's. Much better sounding than 2021 T200's but the strike quality/sound and distance didn't blow me away compared to how well I was hitting the T100's/T150's. Final touch was guy had me hit the 3/4 irons for T100's, T150's. I surprised myself how well I hit these because I was intent on trying the new U505 (vs. my current prior gen U505). Compared to the ZX5/ZX7 I would say the T100/T150's went higher and maybe a bit further. Compared to T200's (2021 or 2023) they are shorter but I expected this due to the diff in lofts.

 

Summary is that I really liked the T100's and T150's. Tempted to get the T150's because they look just like the T100's but loft and distance are a hair more. Don't feel I need to do the T200's at all and maybe can avoid the U505 and just go a full set of 4-PW. I think compared to the ZX7 directly they are going higher and further (T100/T150 both). You can really feel the mass at the bottom/back of the club vs. the ZX7.

 

For reference I was hitting the T100/T150/T200 with a SteelFiber cw110 stiff, 2* flat (same as what I had in T200 and same as I have in ZX5/ZX7 combo). For the 3/4 iron I hit the stock steel AMT White/Black S300, not 2* flat and I still hit it pretty good. I did hit the new U505 with a GD IZ 95. It looks a hair more meatier than the prior gen, definltely easy to hit with that much meat behind the club but I wouldn't say it blew me away, nor was it as big a diff from the prior gen. I still really enjoyed the T100/T150 4 iron.

 

Thanks for the write-up!

[jorellanes]

8 hours ago, simontam said:

I was just at a Titleist fitting yesterday. Planned to really put the T200's through it's paces since I had the 2021 T200's. I had recently swapped out my 2021 T200's for a combo ZX7 (5-7)/ZX5 (8-P) and I loved them so far. Guy had me start with T100's (I said why not) and surprisingly I loved them. Maybe 5yds shorter than compared to 2021 T200 but solid. Really loved the extra tungsten weighting at the bottom of the club. Then hit the T150's, loved them too. Didn't notice any perceptible difference in the size. Finally hit the T200's. Much better sounding than 2021 T200's but the strike quality/sound and distance didn't blow me away compared to how well I was hitting the T100's/T150's. Final touch was guy had me hit the 3/4 irons for T100's, T150's. I surprised myself how well I hit these because I was intent on trying the new U505 (vs. my current prior gen U505). Compared to the ZX5/ZX7 I would say the T100/T150's went higher and maybe a bit further. Compared to T200's (2021 or 2023) they are shorter but I expected this due to the diff in lofts.

 

Summary is that I really liked the T100's and T150's. Tempted to get the T150's because they look just like the T100's but loft and distance are a hair more. Don't feel I need to do the T200's at all and maybe can avoid the U505 and just go a full set of 4-PW. I think compared to the ZX7 directly they are going higher and further (T100/T150 both). You can really feel the mass at the bottom/back of the club vs. the ZX7.

 

For reference I was hitting the T100/T150/T200 with a SteelFiber cw110 stiff, 2* flat (same as what I had in T200 and same as I have in ZX5/ZX7 combo). For the 3/4 iron I hit the stock steel AMT White/Black S300, not 2* flat and I still hit it pretty good. I did hit the new U505 with a GD IZ 95. It looks a hair more meatier than the prior gen, definltely easy to hit with that much meat behind the club but I wouldn't say it blew me away, nor was it as big a diff from the prior gen. I still really enjoyed the T100/T150 4 iron.

Good Info, Thanks 

[stevechooster]

Curious for those who went through a fitting, did anyone get to test out the new T200 utility iron? I saw on other forums that while they're promoting the new U505, that there is a new T200 U build, but unsure if it's available for fittings. 

 

 

[lpitts82]

1 hour ago, stevechooster said:

Curious for those who went through a fitting, did anyone get to test out the new T200 utility iron? I saw on other forums that while they're promoting the new U505, that there is a new T200 U build, but unsure if it's available for fittings. 

 

 

I hit the 2 iron and it was just a little too flat for me and gapping wise didn’t make sense. 

[stevechooster]

23 minutes ago, lpitts82 said:

I hit the 2 iron and it was just a little too flat for me and gapping wise didn’t make sense. 

 

Got it. I scheduled a fitting for tmrw at Trump PV, so I'm curious what assortments they'll have to try, especially from a shaft standpoint. 

 

Do you recall if there was a T200 U build for the 4i? Reading your review, it sounds like you're a low spin/low launch player, hence you needed something to give you some more spin/height? 

[ChrisGio315]

So are the AMT shafts the “stock” options for this years lineup as well?

[yellowjacket82]

21 hours ago, ccantine8 said:

I hit the 350 in the fitting, but liked the 200 better as it was more workable. The 200 was way more improved than last year. I would highly recommend it

How did the 350 feel compared to the 200?

[ccantine8]

1 hour ago, yellowjacket82 said:

How did the 350 feel compared to the 200?

200 felt really good, 350 felt similar but didn’t sound as good. I would go with the 200.

[lpitts82]

4 hours ago, stevechooster said:

 

Got it. I scheduled a fitting for tmrw at Trump PV, so I'm curious what assortments they'll have to try, especially from a shaft standpoint. 

 

Do you recall if there was a T200 U build for the 4i? Reading your review, it sounds like you're a low spin/low launch player, hence you needed something to give you some more spin/height? 

There was a lot of shaft options and honestly I didn’t even try many because I favor the PX LZ but I did try DG 120 and TI S400. I do not recall a T200 U 4, I only tried the normal T200 4 and that’s what I ended up going with. I’m actually a little different I do have lower spin but have a 7 iron peak height of around 100-110 feet and my driver is kind of in the same window. I’ve always held greens well do to my descent angle even though with my CB 7 iron spin rate is around 5800 RPM but I saw a big jump in my spin rate with the 150 to around 6600.

[GolfingIreland]

1 hour ago, ccantine8 said:

200 felt really good, 350 felt similar but didn’t sound as good. I would go with the 200.

Was the infill cap on the back of the new T200 made from the same cheap plastic or actual metal?

[mxskier]

9 minutes ago, GolfingIreland said:

Was the infill cap on the back of the new T200 made from the same cheap plastic or actual metal?

not the same. felt much better. dunno if metal or some other alloy, but did not have the same click, and on good hits had much softer sound.

[bk3318]

update: Ordered on 7/17, just received tracking info today 7/20 shipping from California. T100 GW-7 T150 6-5

Edited July 20, 2023 by bk3318

[TheOverratedPhotog]

7 hours ago, stevechooster said:

Curious for those who went through a fitting, did anyone get to test out the new T200 utility iron? I saw on other forums that while they're promoting the new U505, that there is a new T200 U build, but unsure if it's available for fittings. 

 

 

I did a fitting yesterday on the new clubs. The T200 utility was amazing. I ended up with the T150 for PW-5 and the T200 for the 4. Fitter was initially worried the gap with the T200 might be too big but after a couple of hits with the 5 iron, the gap was fine. I think they key difference was it took me 5 swings to get the T150 5 iron dialled. The T200 utility was so easy to hit, I had it dialed first hit. I have never been a huge fan of long irons like a 2 but I'm tempted to consider a 2 iron as well. 

[yellowjacket82]

2 hours ago, ccantine8 said:

200 felt really good, 350 felt similar but didn’t sound as good. I would go with the 200.

Thanks!  I will need to hit both.  Definitely a sound/feel snob, but may need the forgiveness of the 350.

[ccantine8]

23 minutes ago, yellowjacket82 said:

Thanks!  I will need to hit both.  Definitely a sound/feel snob, but may need the forgiveness of the 350.

If your a sound snob like me, you definitely won’t like the 350

[ccantine8]

1 hour ago, GolfingIreland said:

Was the infill cap on the back of the new T200 made from the same cheap plastic or actual metal?

The 200 is not as cheap as last year. I think it’s some sort of light metal.

[AKub]

1 hour ago, bk3318 said:

update: Ordered on 7/17, just received tracking info today 7/20 shipping from California. T100 GW-7 T150 6-5

Oh man… I also ordered on 7/17 and keep waiting for the shipping email! Hopefully it comes tomorrow.

[lpitts82]

2 hours ago, bk3318 said:

update: Ordered on 7/17, just received tracking info today 7/20 shipping from California. T100 GW-7 T150 6-5

 

2 hours ago, bk3318 said:

update: Ordered on 7/17, just received tracking info today 7/20 shipping from California. T100 GW-7 T150 6-5

Dang I did my fitting Monday and still haven’t gotten tracking. I’m in So Cal so was hoping they would come for the weekend. 

[Tiptx1122]

So how is everybody able to order these so early when all I have been told you can’t pre-order them till August 3

[TayTaySlam]

2 hours ago, ccantine8 said:

If your a sound snob like me, you definitely won’t like the 350

What about the 200 sound

[Pens #1 fan]

Damn three days, are these sets shipping that fast stock sets except for lie or are you guys getting custom shafts. I’m about to just order stock and just reshaft this winter. Headed to FLA for two weeks soon. 

[sleuth]

Current iron set - Mizuno MP15, PX LZ 6.0.

 

FItted for T100, PX LZ 6.0.

 

Outdoor trackman fitting numbers showed that the MP15 was a lower flight, high spin iron. The T100, with the same shift increased the trajectory and descent angle, while also lowering backspin ~300 rpm. Good stuff.

[ccantine8]

7 minutes ago, TayTaySlam said:

What about the 200 sound

Honestly, I hated the previous model sound. This one sounds really good to me.

[hoselshot82]

So when is the actual release date?

[mxskier]

Reportedly, Actual release August 3, In stores August 25.

 

Seems people are getting orders in early mostly through official Titleist fitting days that are being held around the country (that's how I got mine in), or somehow "know a guy" who can place an order early.

[stevechooster]

4 hours ago, TheOverratedPhotog said:

I did a fitting yesterday on the new clubs. The T200 utility was amazing. I ended up with the T150 for PW-5 and the T200 for the 4. Fitter was initially worried the gap with the T200 might be too big but after a couple of hits with the 5 iron, the gap was fine. I think they key difference was it took me 5 swings to get the T150 5 iron dialled. The T200 utility was so easy to hit, I had it dialed first hit. I have never been a huge fan of long irons like a 2 but I'm tempted to consider a 2 iron as well. 

 

What kind of numbers/differences were you seeing between the normal T200 4i vs the T200 4U? 

[stevechooster]

6 hours ago, lpitts82 said:

There was a lot of shaft options and honestly I didn’t even try many because I favor the PX LZ but I did try DG 120 and TI S400. I do not recall a T200 U 4, I only tried the normal T200 4 and that’s what I ended up going with. I’m actually a little different I do have lower spin but have a 7 iron peak height of around 100-110 feet and my driver is kind of in the same window. I’ve always held greens well do to my descent angle even though with my CB 7 iron spin rate is around 5800 RPM but I saw a big jump in my spin rate with the 150 to around 6600.

 

Gotcha... I had to reread your initial post after your comments lol... so you were looking for more spin while maintaining your existing flight window/apex if I'm hearing you right? It's interesting to hear you with a CB, then transition to a heavier/tungsten backed head with less loft to achieve the same yardage in the same window with more spin. Then again, that heavier head must be influencing ball speed and dynamic loft to essentially give you the same distance with more spin to land. I'm surprised the fitter didn't try to corral you into other shafts while keeping you in a T100 head as a better player (not to mention that loft gapping now made you pick up a new GW lol).

[yellowjacket82]

11 hours ago, ccantine8 said:

If your a sound snob like me, you definitely won’t like the 350

Typically the 7 iron is the fitting iron.  Was that the case? 

There is a substantial transition to better sound and feel between the T300 7 and 8 irons.  Maybe it's that way with the 350.

[lpitts82]

7 hours ago, stevechooster said:

 

Gotcha... I had to reread your initial post after your comments lol... so you were looking for more spin while maintaining your existing flight window/apex if I'm hearing you right? It's interesting to hear you with a CB, then transition to a heavier/tungsten backed head with less loft to achieve the same yardage in the same window with more spin. Then again, that heavier head must be influencing ball speed and dynamic loft to essentially give you the same distance with more spin to land. I'm surprised the fitter didn't try to corral you into other shafts while keeping you in a T100 head as a better player (not to mention that loft gapping now made you pick up a new GW lol).

The only other shaft that might have made sense was the modus for my feel preference but it never ends well with me and those shafts. I would say the heavier head had a lot to do with the spin increase for sure. The gapping kind of worked out for me being I play a 16.5 TSR2 and will now be playing a 21 degree 4 iron. I can’t really think of many courses in So Cal that I’m needing more than 250 yards into a green and if I were I would probably be laying up anyways.

[TheOverratedPhotog]

8 hours ago, stevechooster said:

 

Gotcha... I had to reread your initial post after your comments lol... so you were looking for more spin while maintaining your existing flight window/apex if I'm hearing you right? It's interesting to hear you with a CB, then transition to a heavier/tungsten backed head with less loft to achieve the same yardage in the same window with more spin. Then again, that heavier head must be influencing ball speed and dynamic loft to essentially give you the same distance with more spin to land. I'm surprised the fitter didn't try to corral you into other shafts while keeping you in a T100 head as a better player (not to mention that loft gapping now made you pick up a new GW lol).

 

Correct, it’s about 3 things: Height and approach angle so you are maintaining the same height, consistency of strike, and gapping. The risk with a T200 utility is that if you hit your T150 5 iron badly, you could end up with a small gap between the 6 and 5, and a large gap to 4. Thats why they will sometimes put someone into a large split set with a T200 5 (and/or 6) iron based on when they stop striking the T150 well enough.

 

It’s a clever approach, because it allows some medium handicappers to still play players irons for some of their irons.

 

45 minutes ago, lpitts82 said:

The only other shaft that might have made sense was the modus for my feel preference but it never ends well with me and those shafts. I would say the heavier head had a lot to do with the spin increase for sure. The gapping kind of worked out for me being I play a 16.5 TSR2 and will now be playing a 21 degree 4 iron. I can’t really think of many courses in So Cal that I’m needing more than 250 yards into a green and if I were I would probably be laying up anyways.

 

In my case, when I got back into golf 9 months ago, I played better with a lighter shaft, in part probably because I hadn’t built my golf muscles up enough to swing a heavier club fast. Now I seem to get more consistency and better strike with a heavier shaft.

 

1 hour ago, yellowjacket82 said:

Typically the 7 iron is the fitting iron.  Was that the case? 

There is a substantial transition to better sound and feel between the T300 7 and 8 irons.  Maybe it's that way with the 350.

 

Yeah, they fit the 7 and try get the 45 degree approach angle with that. They are pretty good. They watch you swing a 7 iron with your own club and use that as a benchmark to start at T150, T200 or T350. I hit my T100S pretty good so he started on a T150. I had a 49 degree approach with the Modus 880 so he tried 6 or 7 shafts before trying the Modus again. It’s a blind test, he asked me not to look at the shaft so he could try various stiffness options without you having any preconceived ideas on stiffness etc. The Modus 880 I have are slightly lighter shafts so the only way he could better that was a modus 3 tour with a heavier shaft. Same distance and height, smaller grouping.

 

If they can’t get a 45 degree or greater with the 7 iron and a T150, they go to a T200, then to a T350.  After that they try get 5mph ball speed gaps between clubs, so if your 7 iron with a T150 was 110mph, they expect the 5 iron to be 120mph with the same height and a 45+ approach. If they can’t get that, then they try a T200 to see if that works. If they get that to work, they will check the gap on the 6 iron to see what the split on the set is. 

 

The T350 are much nicer than the T300. They seem a little longer head to toe. I didn’t try them out but the feedback from someone else I know who did was pretty positive. Said they were softer on mishits which was a similar issue I saw to the T200’s and the clack sound.

Edited July 21, 2023 by TheOverratedPhotog