Flipping through Impact

[jpboi9837]

Posted in another subforum, wondering if this is a better place for it. Let me know

 

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by jpboi9837

[Chunkitgood]

In recompense for your introducing me to the term Ballerina 68 I will introduce you to the idea that the hands resist the forces exerted by the club.

 

 

[MonteScheinblum]

I know video isn’t full speed, but very slow backswing throwing off transition sequence.

 

Get your tempo app or a metronome app.

[RoyalTroon]

10 hours ago, Chunkitgood said:

In recompense for your introducing me to the term Ballerina 68 I will introduce you to the idea that the hands resist the forces exerted by the club.

 

 

 

Might be in a top 5 for YT video on pressures, resistance, and our engagement with them. 

[LKNgolf]

Also check out Mike Malaska…he’s got several videos on YouTube about fixing the flip move at the bottom of the swing.  I’ve fought a hook since I was 13 and Mike’s techniques definitely were an improvement.  It might work for you as well

[jpboi9837]

Thank you all, will check these videos out.

 

@MonteScheinblum, I think all of the work to hit the right spots in takeaway and backswing led me to slow down significantly. I’ll try to speed it up now. Am I in decent spots up to the top, at least?

[PracticeSwinger]

Not being a smarta** and to manage expectations, but I'd think Monte has other things on his mind, for the next few days anyway

[jonsnow]

2 hours ago, Varry_Hardon said:

Not being a smarta** and to manage expectations, but I'd think Monte has other things on his mind, for the next few days anyway

He better.

[jpboi9837]

Say more?  I’m new to this community and don’t follow him closely

[nitram]

44 minutes ago, jpboi9837 said:

Say more?  I’m new to this community and don’t follow him closely

 

He's playing this afternoon in the first round of the US Senior Open.

[jpboi9837]

Oh nice — good luck

[MPStrat]

The reason you see a flip is because your right shoulder stalls and you pull your arms across the midline of your body. 

[jpboi9837]

@MPStrat how do I stop doing that?

[MPStrat]

3 minutes ago, jpboi9837 said:

@MPStrat how do I stop doing that?

Like most things with golf instruction, not usually an internet tip kind of fix. 
 

You have a misunderstanding. You need to learn to allow the body to make its contribution to transporting the arms and club to and through the ball. 
 

You are very arm dominant in your golf swing from takeaway though impact. That’s also why your backswing is slow. 
 

This starts with learning dynamic footwork, shift and sequencing. Need someone good to work with you in person. 

[jpboi9837]

6 hours ago, MPStrat said:

Like most things with golf instruction, not usually an internet tip kind of fix. 
 

You have a misunderstanding. You need to learn to allow the body to make its contribution to transporting the arms and club to and through the ball. 
 

You are very arm dominant in your golf swing from takeaway though impact. That’s also why your backswing is slow. 
 

This starts with learning dynamic footwork, shift and sequencing. Need someone good to work with you in person. 

Thank you — I appreciate what you’re saying here, @MPStrat. Surely there is a video or drill that can explain this further and help me with those concepts, in the meantime?

[jpboi9837]

I resonate with the idea that I have a misunderstanding…

 

If I can access the right feel just once, ingraining it is no problem for me.

[MPStrat]

31 minutes ago, jpboi9837 said:

Thank you — I appreciate what you’re saying here, @MPStrat. Surely there is a video or drill that can explain this further and help me with those concepts, in the meantime?

Dr Kwon’s stuff on YouTube is a good start. The odds of you applying the information correctly on your own are very small. You likely won’t see any major positive change in your motion without guidance and supervision. 

[jpboi9837]

23 minutes ago, MPStrat said:

Dr Kwon’s stuff on YouTube is a good start. The odds of you applying the information correctly on your own are very small. You likely won’t see any major positive change in your motion without guidance and supervision. 

I find that hard to believe

[glk]

You can start here     I second the notion that doing this own one's own is difficult - I've seen people not be able to walk with only arms as he does - that said it can be done if you video and pay close attention to the details.
 

Here are a couple of explanations of the motion - in the first is an example of what you do - the load onto the right side then shift everything and rotate at the same time in the downswing.   The second is hogan as an example though you can find plenty of players like tiger, etc that have this motion.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFPsfYQlVZd/

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_SXD4MFBJ7/

 

 

It does help a lot to have a knowledgeable set of eyes to confirm or correct.

 

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by glk

[MPStrat]

13 minutes ago, jpboi9837 said:

I find that hard to believe

The success rate of amateur self coaching might be 1 in 1000. Im not even sure it’s that good. 

 

[jpboi9837]

I agree from an overall perspective, just looking to take care of any low hanging fruit while I wait to get more lessons.

 

No matter where the knowledge is coming from, the final step is always the individual digging it out of the dirt, yeah?

[KD1]

I mean.. if the individual has unlimited time and energy to reinvent an excavator from scratch then yeah.

Edited July 1, 2023 by KD1

[jpboi9837]

9 hours ago, KD1 said:

I mean.. if the individual has unlimited time and energy to reinvent an excavator from scratch then yeah.

good one

[RoyalTroon]

On 6/29/2023 at 11:53 AM, jpboi9837 said:

Am I in decent spots up to the top, at least?

 

All spots, even your spots, on a back swing can be decent if you know how to get through the most important spot, impact.

 

[jpboi9837]

1 hour ago, BALLYBUNION said:

 

All spots, even your spots, on a back swing can be decent if you know how to get through the most important spot, impact.

 

yeah, so true

[Zitlow]

6 hours ago, BALLYBUNION said:

 

All spots, even your spots, on a back swing can be decent if you know how to get through the most important spot, impact.

 

"Hips Don't Lie" Shakira

[ApostateDrive]

Danny Maude has had the best videos, for me, on how to not flip through impact. Very easy to understand with the way he explains things. 

[jpboi9837]

1 hour ago, ApostateDrive said:

Danny Maude has had the best videos, for me, on how to not flip through impact. Very easy to understand with the way he explains things. 

 

Thanks, @ApostateDrive -- I'll look into his content!

[teddyironboy]

Assuming clubface is in a good position at P6, I think a lot of it is getting the torso down and the chest open, and keeping the right arm bent through impact. If you are far from the ball at impact, arms are going to extend, and to square it they'll need to flip a little, kind of like Rickie, although he just won haha.

 

I started doing rotator cuff exercises in an effort to help keep my right arm more bent, to help fight the feeling of throwing the club. Could be something to explore