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Asking the most obvious question first, are you sure it's the same shaft? I.e. correct model and flex?

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Just checking.

 

The next most obvious things would be if there were any differences in the tip trimming and/or for an iron shaft it there were tip weights that weren't installed in the reshaft.

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16 minutes ago, Rambada said:

Did you check the following?

Swing weight

shaft lenght

same or different head different

Did you use tip weights?

 

If everything is the same I can only see swing weight being the biggest factor

Same head, a 4 (reshafted) and a 5.  The builder had the specs for SW and length.  Unfortunately I can't verify SW myself and I don't know if they used tip weights.

16 minutes ago, jvincent said:

Just checking.

 

The next most obvious things would be if there were any differences in the tip trimming and/or for an iron shaft it there were tip weights that weren't installed in the reshaft.

As I only had the 4 iron done (broken shaft), I can't verify if trimming or tip weights are different.  Glad to have something to research though, thanks!

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1 hour ago, mbyeates said:

Same head, a 4 (reshafted) and a 5.  The builder had the specs for SW and length.  Unfortunately I can't verify SW myself and I don't know if they used tip weights.

As I only had the 4 iron done (broken shaft), I can't verify if trimming or tip weights are different.  Glad to have something to research though, thanks!

What shaft is it? Does it have a fixed logo…or a sticker like KBS shafts?

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4 hours ago, mbyeates said:

 

OTI 75R.  Fixed logo, installed in the exact orientation as the other irons.

orientation is interesting but position in relation to grip/clubhead is more interesting 🙂

take your set and put the clubs next to each other (on a table or against a wall) with the clubheads in the same position and check if there is a constant progression of the logos on the shafts, or if there is something strange with the 4iron ...

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my guess is that the "repair" was done by using the original broken shaft and adding an extension to get it to length

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11 minutes ago, ShortGolfer said:

It may be possible that the 4 iron's shaft was originally untipped while the new one was cut to spec.

would probably not make such a drastic difference in feel since the 4iron should be tipped 0.5" in that shaft

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12 minutes ago, Puttersaurus Rex said:

What if the break was at the tip or closer to the middle?

my guess IS that the break was at the tip 🙂

 

that shaft has a 4.7" parallel section ... add extra tip trim ... glue in an extension ... "new" shaft and a reason why the shaft suddenly feels "painful" as the OP said

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First, how is the feel different? Lighter, heavier, stiffer, etc. Be specific!

 

Again, check the logo progression. The builder could have done anything in an effort to meet the previous club specs. Tip weight, b u t t weight, different trimming. Hitting a specific SW doesn't necessarily mean the finished club will feel the same. Unfortunately, SW is still held as a fitting parameter even though it is ill fitted to graphite shafts.

 

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1 hour ago, Goopher said:

my guess IS that the break was at the tip 🙂

 

that shaft has a 4.7" parallel section ... add extra tip trim ... glue in an extension ... "new" shaft and a reason why the shaft suddenly feels "painful" as the OP said

Ah.  I am a visual person, and mostly work with taper/butt trim only.  👍

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2 hours ago, Goopher said:

my guess IS that the break was at the tip 🙂

 

that shaft has a 4.7" parallel section ... add extra tip trim ... glue in an extension ... "new" shaft and a reason why the shaft suddenly feels "painful" as the OP said

Yeah this is where my mind was going, agree OP should check logo progression as that would be extremely telling. If they in fact used the same shaft that would be like hardstepping an obscene amount. Thus the “harsh” feeling and loss of feeling in the handle would lead to this as well (from the extension)

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18 hours ago, NerdyGolfer said:

Yeah this is where my mind was going, agree OP should check logo progression as that would be extremely telling. If they in fact used the same shaft that would be like hardstepping an obscene amount. Thus the “harsh” feeling and loss of feeling in the handle would lead to this as well (from the extension)

The worst case scenario is, that the OP might have gotten charged for the shaft ... but that's where we need his feedback

I've done repairs like this before ... but never without being very transparent to the customer about that and charging accordingly (in situations like "need the club back in play for tomorrow" and I don't have a better alternative in stock) 

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