Charlie Woods exempt into AJGA

[Golfquant]

$295 for AJGA seems like a bargain compared to $300 for a NB3 QUALIFIER to get into an AJGA:

 

https://www.jgnc.org/Tournament/TournamentDetails?TID=28144

 

[Pinewood Golfer]

11 hours ago, golferdad8 said:

From my experience, even without Rolex points, most players would prefer the event being an AJGA event. They are the best run of all the junior events and cost less than FCG or many other 3 days tournaments. Players get a practice round & swags included for the entry fee, and tournaments have 6-8 interns to help with keeping up pace or play & rulings. Plus they often recruit volunteers to help with spotting balls & usually include a good meal. Lastly, there’s good friendly competition & there’s prestige with getting top 5 & full exemption which doesn’t exist w other tournaments. 
I’m not pro AJGA & saying they can do no wrong, but for $295 entry fee, I think it’s one of the better bargains out there in junior sports. 

I can promise you there are many non-AJGA events, at MUCH nicer courses, run just as well or better than AJGA events—from swag, to volunteers, to pace, etc.  Events that are being put on for the KIDS, not for the organization. 

 

[Tugu]

10 minutes ago, Pinewood Golfer said:

I can promise you there are many non-AJGA events, at MUCH nicer courses, run just as well or better than AJGA events—from swag, to volunteers, to pace, etc.  Events that are being put on for the KIDS, not for the organization. 

 

Could you please DM me some? Sincere request, not a sarcastic one. My boy has been spending school part of year in Florida and would relish playing in events as you've described.

Edited April 27 by Tugu

[leezer99]

1 hour ago, Tugu said:

Could you please DM me some? Sincere request, not a sarcastic one. My boy has been spending school part of year in Florida and would relish playing in events as you've described.

Play in some of the Saguaro Tour events. Not great swag or gifts but great competition. 

[Tugu]

16 minutes ago, leezer99 said:

Play in some of the Saguaro Tour events. Not great swag or gifts but great competition. 

I do like the AJGA. But the balls, hats, shirts, dried fruit (we got once) are all not necessary. We end up giving it all away. There's so much clutter that comes with junior golf.

[Pinewood Golfer]

2 hours ago, Tugu said:

Could you please DM me some? Sincere request, not a sarcastic one. My boy has been spending school part of year in Florida and would relish playing in events as you've described.

Sent

[golferdad8]

14 hours ago, leezer99 said:

Play in some of the Saguaro Tour events. Not great swag or gifts but great competition. 

+1 on Seguaro events. Well done & I put them in the category of playing amateur/amateurgolf.com events. Solid competition & can even win some nice gift cards for top finishes. 

To echo Jeff Champ, play in all the tournaments & try to mix them up so the players can have a wide range of competition & courses. There are too many coaches & schools who recruit their own way to say whether one should do AJGA or not. My son played them all - and doing well in any of them just helps him get better. That said, if going for top 40 D1 golf programs, AJGA & amateur tournaments and/or invitationals are the best way for coaches to compare the player to his current players/recruits. 

Edited April 28 by golferdad8
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[mrshinsa]

We played in a Saguro tournament recently but weren't really impressed. 

It was the same thing as any other poorly run event, inconsistent rules, no official, disorganized, and VERY expensive. 

The course was crap cuz the middle of the wet season.

Competition was good, but that was about it. 

 

Each to their own.

Edited April 30 by mrshinsa

[jayslaysongolf]

On 4/27/2024 at 11:10 AM, Pinewood Golfer said:

I can promise you there are many non-AJGA events, at MUCH nicer courses, run just as well or better than AJGA events—from swag, to volunteers, to pace, etc.  Events that are being put on for the KIDS, not for the organization. 

 

You are correct some AJGA tournaments are poorly run and much worse then other events.

 

Most people follow their own kids but if you plant yourself on a hole you will see plenty of kids shaving stokes, not counting hazards and just plain not playing by the rules for free drops.

 

The rules officials are also interns and many of them never play golf themselves and just don’t care.

 

The quality of the tournament is mostly a reflection of the tournament director and how they run things.

 

This not just a AJGA issue but people have this false belief that there run like a pga event.

Edited May 1 by jayslaysongolf

[LawGenius305]

On 4/27/2024 at 11:10 AM, Pinewood Golfer said:

I can promise you there are many non-AJGA events, at MUCH nicer courses, run just as well or better than AJGA events—from swag, to volunteers, to pace, etc.  Events that are being put on for the KIDS, not for the organization. 

 

I agree.

 

AJGA Open Events are a scheme. The money for entrance fees all go back to the AJGA. The courses hosting the event do not receive a dime. The host facility has to raise $50,000 to host the event through finding sponsors or donations. That $50,000 goes to paying for all of the AJGA hotel rooms and food. Out of that 50K the course has to pay themselves the greens fees for every round. All proceeds raised will split 50/50 with a local charity program and the ACE Grant. 

 

This is why you see the signature events at nice courses where someone can stroke a check. Other events are at dumps because there aren't enough hosts to fall for this racket more than once.

[monty09]

On 2/22/2024 at 12:43 PM, Rory4Pres said:

Speaking of which, Charlie played in his first PGA Tour qualifier this morning and shot an 86.  

 

He's still only 15.  I definitely see him playing professionally in 7 years if the motivation is there.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[golferdad8]

1 hour ago, LawGenius305 said:

The courses hosting the event do not receive a dime. The host facility has to raise $50,000 to host the event through finding sponsors or donations. That $50,000 goes to paying for all of the AJGA hotel rooms and food. Out of that 50K the course has to pay themselves the greens fees for every round. All proceeds raised will split 50/50 with a local charity program and the ACE Grant. 

 

This is why you see the signature events at nice courses where someone can stroke a check. Other events are at dumps because there aren't enough hosts to fall for this racket more than once.

While AJGA isn’t perfect, you’re unfortunately wrong on many of facts. The $50k goes toward paying for a lot of the golf course related expenses, and often the 8 interns at each tournament stay at host homes or share hotels. In addition, having 6 teams take 2 trucks & trailers with housing for 14 weeks have to be allocated somehow. If anything is to bloated, I would criticize the compensation packages of the executive director & exec staff as being excessive - while interns get paid minimum wage. 

[LawGenius305]

16 minutes ago, golferdad8 said:

While AJGA isn’t perfect, you’re unfortunately wrong on many of facts. The $50k goes toward paying for a lot of the golf course related expenses, and often the 8 interns at each tournament stay at host homes or share hotels. In addition, having 6 teams take 2 trucks & trailers with housing for 14 weeks have to be allocated somehow. If anything is to bloated, I would criticize the compensation packages of the executive director & exec staff as being excessive - while interns get paid minimum wage. 

You literally repeated what I said. I am 100% correct. The Host has to pay themselves out of the 50K. The AJGA uses the facility to make the money then brings their people in to run it. It is a ponzi scheme.

[jayslaysongolf]

20 minutes ago, golferdad8 said:

While AJGA isn’t perfect, you’re unfortunately wrong on many of facts. The $50k goes toward paying for a lot of the golf course related expenses, and often the 8 interns at each tournament stay at host homes or share hotels. In addition, having 6 teams take 2 trucks & trailers with housing for 14 weeks have to be allocated somehow. If anything is to bloated, I would criticize the compensation packages of the executive director & exec staff as being excessive - while interns get paid minimum wage. 

 

AJGA only cares about themselves. you learn this once you start to go their events.

 

Do you think interns who never play golf care about the tournaments.   Some of tourments are worse then a local 9 hole US kids tournament.

Some these interns turned officials have to ask the kids if they get a stroke when the ball hits the water.

 

Also they like to make everyone pay for their agenda of who plays for invitationals. Some of the fields have 20-30% questionable fields.

[leezer99]

The kid keeps grinding. Second in total birdies. Just too many bogies. 

[Tugu]

1 hour ago, leezer99 said:

The kid keeps grinding. Second in total birdies. Just too many bogies. 

The kid may actually care less about rankings than I do. He knows he's going to Stanford if he wants to anyways.

[Golfquant]

27 minutes ago, Tugu said:

The kid may actually care less about rankings than I do. He knows he's going to Stanford if he wants to anyways.

so there is already one 2027 Stanford recruit spot accounted for?!?!?!?

[leezer99]

2 minutes ago, Golfquant said:

so there is already one 2027 Stanford recruit spot accounted for?!?!?!?

Don’t worry, he’s a walk on.