Mac O'Grady's Swing ... what can we learn?

[virtuoso]

There is no deadline bud. Do it whenever the weather gets better.

[MK7Golf21]

was looking over my swings since 2011, Have to say my swing has come a long way since back then. Learned alot from Dan Carraher Rick Sellers and Kevin weeks. How long you been working on the mac o grady stuff virtuoso?

[virtuoso]

[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419135800' post='10623229']
was looking over my swings since 2011, Have to say my swing has come a long way since back then. Learned alot from Dan Carraher Rick Sellers and Kevin weeks. How long you been working on the mac o grady stuff virtuoso?
[/quote]

Off and on since 1987. Ask Kevin weeks. I used to hang out with him in the late 80's at Castlewoods CC and talked about mac all the time.

[MK7Golf21]

[quote name='virtuoso' timestamp='1419166986' post='10623881']
[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419135800' post='10623229']
was looking over my swings since 2011, Have to say my swing has come a long way since back then. Learned alot from Dan Carraher Rick Sellers and Kevin weeks. How long you been working on the mac o grady stuff virtuoso?
[/quote]

Off and on since 1987. Ask Kevin weeks. I used to hang out with him in the late 80's at Castlewoods CC and talked about mac all the time.
[/quote]

Wow you've been at this awhile, did Kevin know Mac, what was he doing in California?

[virtuoso]

[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419171788' post='10624025']
[quote name='virtuoso' timestamp='1419166986' post='10623881']
[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419135800' post='10623229']
was looking over my swings since 2011, Have to say my swing has come a long way since back then. Learned alot from Dan Carraher Rick Sellers and Kevin weeks. How long you been working on the mac o grady stuff virtuoso?
[/quote]

Off and on since 1987. Ask Kevin weeks. I used to hang out with him in the late 80's at Castlewoods CC and talked about mac all the time.
[/quote]

Wow you've been at this awhile, did Kevin know Mac, what was he doing in California?
[/quote]

we were both in mississippi at the time. He's from there and I lived there from 88 to 93.

[MK7Golf21]

[quote name='virtuoso' timestamp='1419187212' post='10624859']
[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419171788' post='10624025']
[quote name='virtuoso' timestamp='1419166986' post='10623881']
[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419135800' post='10623229']
was looking over my swings since 2011, Have to say my swing has come a long way since back then. Learned alot from Dan Carraher Rick Sellers and Kevin weeks. How long you been working on the mac o grady stuff virtuoso?
[/quote]

Off and on since 1987. Ask Kevin weeks. I used to hang out with him in the late 80's at Castlewoods CC and talked about mac all the time.
[/quote]

Wow you've been at this awhile, did Kevin know Mac, what was he doing in California?
[/quote]

we were both in mississippi at the time. He's from there and I lived there from 88 to 93.
[/quote]

Cool, yea he's from there. He really helped me with my swing, learned a lot every time I took a lesson. He's a big proponent of width in the swing.

[virtuoso]

[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419189304' post='10624947']
[quote name='virtuoso' timestamp='1419187212' post='10624859']
[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419171788' post='10624025']
[quote name='virtuoso' timestamp='1419166986' post='10623881']
[quote name='Redjeep83' timestamp='1419135800' post='10623229']
was looking over my swings since 2011, Have to say my swing has come a long way since back then. Learned alot from Dan Carraher Rick Sellers and Kevin weeks. How long you been working on the mac o grady stuff virtuoso?
[/quote]

Off and on since 1987. Ask Kevin weeks. I used to hang out with him in the late 80's at Castlewoods CC and talked about mac all the time.
[/quote]

Wow you've been at this awhile, did Kevin know Mac, what was he doing in California?
[/quote]

we were both in mississippi at the time. He's from there and I lived there from 88 to 93.
[/quote]

Cool, yea he's from there. He really helped me with my swing, learned a lot every time I took a lesson. He's a big proponent of width in the swing.
[/quote]

fantastic teacher--he's always been a knowledge searcher since I've known him.

[ShutSteepStuck]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1418997306' post='10616137']
[quote name='Jacob Mac' timestamp='1418990256' post='10615909']
How is the weather in OK? When do you think you are going to post that swing?
[/quote]

We finally got a break, and I'll video tomorrow. Then, figure out how to post it.
[/quote]

Bump!

Did MizzyJoe ever post his late 80's Mac pattern?

[bph7]

[quote name='ShutSteepStuck' timestamp='1424288907' post='10979587']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1418997306' post='10616137']
[quote name='Jacob Mac' timestamp='1418990256' post='10615909']
How is the weather in OK? When do you think you are going to post that swing?
[/quote]

We finally got a break, and I'll video tomorrow. Then, figure out how to post it.
[/quote]

Bump!

Did MizzyJoe ever post his late 80's Mac pattern?
[/quote]
Nah, but he did post his guillotine plane pattern in another thread. Think that pattern was from 9th edition, homers lost notes, section 4-h-8s-4.79l-2

[ej002]

[quote name='PingG10guy' timestamp='1418976572' post='10615751']
[quote name='pinhigh27' timestamp='1418965176' post='10615431']
haha I don't think that was my quote
[/quote]

Youre saying that there's a chance doe...
[/quote]

!!?!??!?!?! why did PingG10Guy get banned ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

4000+ Posts and someone gets banned? What is that all about?

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='ShutSteepStuck' timestamp='1424288907' post='10979587']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1418997306' post='10616137']
[quote name='Jacob Mac' timestamp='1418990256' post='10615909']
How is the weather in OK? When do you think you are going to post that swing?
[/quote]

We finally got a break, and I'll video tomorrow. Then, figure out how to post it.
[/quote]

Bump!

Did MizzyJoe ever post his late 80's Mac pattern?
[/quote]

What's with smart mouthing the name???

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1424290132' post='10979705']
[quote name='ShutSteepStuck' timestamp='1424288907' post='10979587']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1418997306' post='10616137']
[quote name='Jacob Mac' timestamp='1418990256' post='10615909']
How is the weather in OK? When do you think you are going to post that swing?
[/quote]

We finally got a break, and I'll video tomorrow. Then, figure out how to post it.
[/quote]

Bump!

Did MizzyJoe ever post his late 80's Mac pattern?
[/quote]
Nah, but he did post his guillotine plane pattern in another thread. Think that pattern was from 9th edition, homers lost notes, section 4-h-8s-4.79l-2
[/quote]

Let's see your swing.

[iteachgolf]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424292570' post='10979995']
[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1424290132' post='10979705']
[quote name='ShutSteepStuck' timestamp='1424288907' post='10979587']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1418997306' post='10616137']
[quote name='Jacob Mac' timestamp='1418990256' post='10615909']
How is the weather in OK? When do you think you are going to post that swing?
[/quote]

We finally got a break, and I'll video tomorrow. Then, figure out how to post it.
[/quote]

Bump!

Did MizzyJoe ever post his late 80's Mac pattern?
[/quote]
Nah, but he did post his guillotine plane pattern in another thread. Think that pattern was from 9th edition, homers lost notes, section 4-h-8s-4.79l-2
[/quote]

Let's see your swing.
[/quote]

It's better than yours Joe. I'd be careful what you ask for

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='ej002' timestamp='1424291253' post='10979817']
[quote name='PingG10guy' timestamp='1418976572' post='10615751']
[quote name='pinhigh27' timestamp='1418965176' post='10615431']
haha I don't think that was my quote
[/quote]

Youre saying that there's a chance doe...
[/quote]

!!?!??!?!?! why did PingG10Guy get banned ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?

4000+ Posts and someone gets banned? What is that all about?
[/quote]

Probably cause he was replying to others and changing their posts. But, others were doing it and didn't get banned.

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1424292737' post='10980021']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424292570' post='10979995']
[quote name='bph7' timestamp='1424290132' post='10979705']
[quote name='ShutSteepStuck' timestamp='1424288907' post='10979587']
Bump!

Did MizzyJoe ever post his late 80's Mac pattern?
[/quote]
Nah, but he did post his guillotine plane pattern in another thread. Think that pattern was from 9th edition, homers lost notes, section 4-h-8s-4.79l-2
[/quote]

Let's see your swing.
[/quote]

It's better than yours Joe. I'd be careful what you ask for
[/quote]

Careful of what??? And where's your swing by the way?

[Hstead]

MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.

[iteachgolf]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

My swing is easy to find. Heath has a better swing and is a better golfer than you as well.

[Hstead]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

For a guy that wears a ladies medium glove you sure have a lot of confidence LOL

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1424294540' post='10980255']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

My swing is easy to find. Heath has a better swing and is a better golfer than you as well.
[/quote]

And just how do you know how well I play???

[MK7Golf21]

Heaths got a pretty good swing esp for being the size of an nfl linebacker

[Jacob Mac]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424296001' post='10980449']
[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1424294540' post='10980255']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

My swing is easy to find. Heath has a better swing and is a better golfer than you as well.
[/quote]

And just how do you know how well I play???
[/quote]

I obviously have no idea how well you play. But looking at your move, is distance a problem for you? Do longer courses give you trouble? Does your Mac swing produce more distance? Since you can learn swings so easily, why did you settle on your particular pattern?

[iteachgolf]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424296001' post='10980449']
[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1424294540' post='10980255']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

My swing is easy to find. Heath has a better swing and is a better golfer than you as well.
[/quote]

And just how do you know how well I play???
[/quote]

I don't have to. I know how well Heath plays. And I can tell it's better than you. I've seen your swing. For a guy who claims what will and won't cause a huge hip stall you have one of the worst sequenced and biggest hip stall swings I've ever seen.

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424295903' post='10980435']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

For a guy that wears a ladies medium glove you sure have a lot of confidence LOL
[/quote]

My hands are exactly the same size as Nicklaus', so what's that got to do with confidence? I've made no claims of any kind about my swing compared to others.

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='Jacob Mac' timestamp='1424296459' post='10980499']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424296001' post='10980449']
[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1424294540' post='10980255']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

My swing is easy to find. Heath has a better swing and is a better golfer than you as well.
[/quote]

And just how do you know how well I play???
[/quote]

I obviously have no idea how well you play. But looking at your move, is distance a problem for you? Do longer courses give you trouble? Does your Mac swing produce more distance? Since you can learn swings so easily, why did you settle on your particular pattern?
[/quote]

Well thanks for a civil post. Yes, I could use more distance, but not too bad for 5'5" 120 lbs. I have no Morad pattern, but I think I could mimic it with enough good weather. But why, no matter the result, posting would just bring more wise a** comments. The TGM Turned Shoulder Plane gives me best results with the right shoulder and the sweetspot moving on the same plane.

[CHARGERS]

[quote name='farmer' timestamp='1308758088' post='3327044']
Listening to DeFrancesco, Mac has an odd set-up which causes him to make compensations during the swing. So, not a great set-up or swing, certainly not anything to be copied. How did he become the deity of a particular swing cult?
[/quote]
Most swings(pros or hacks) appear odd to Wayne D and have many compensations...

[MizunoJoe]

[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1424296501' post='10980503']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424296001' post='10980449']
[quote name='iteachgolf' timestamp='1424294540' post='10980255']
[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424294332' post='10980225']
[quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1424293695' post='10980149']
MJ - iteach has put his swing on here a zillion times you don't want to go there. Your swing is not that good, sorry. It has more moving parts than the Hubble telescope. I wouldn't be arguing with instructors with that swing.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I've seen your swing on here. I hope that's not what you're basing your expert opinion on. Or maybe you're just a fanboy posting for points.
[/quote]

My swing is easy to find. Heath has a better swing and is a better golfer than you as well.
[/quote]

And just how do you know how well I play???
[/quote]

I don't have to. I know how well Heath plays. And I can tell it's better than you. I've seen your swing. For a guy who claims what will and won't cause a huge hip stall you have one of the worst sequenced and biggest hip stall swings I've ever seen.
[/quote]

I've never heard of you outside this forum. I have never claimed to know what will and won't stall hips - you're making this stuff up as you go. Do I fire my right triceps, like you say ALL swings do? Is the problem that I don't try to straighten my right arm as fast as possible from the top as everyone does and MUST do? Could it be you're not what you think you are?

[iteachgolf]

Your ignorance isn't my problem. You hit balls into a field wearing work gloves and rain boots. I'm not surprised you haven't heard of a lot of things. The top teachers in the game know exactly who I am and have know who I am for many years. So have many PGA, LPGA, Web.com, and many others.

The problem is your hips get so far out in front and your right arm literally couldn't be more behind you. You are the shinning example of a guy who tries to use all pivot and gets the arms way behind you. Sequence is horrible and is plain to see. It's why you lock up the brakes through the ball. Your poor sequence creates very little speed and causes all sorts of consistency issues with your arms as behind you as anyone I've ever seen.

I have no issue with amateurs having poor swings, I expect it. But you hold yourself out to be an authority on the golf swing. And for someone who is an authority I would expect a lot more.


This is an AIR swing which means it should easier to make it what you deem is ideal since you don't have to hit a golf ball.

http://youtu.be/XjW-_heeKZQ

You think the sequencing here is correct or even in the ball park of ideal?

[ej002]

[quote name='MizunoJoe' timestamp='1424292979' post='10980051']
Probably cause he was replying to others and changing their posts. But, others were doing it and didn't get banned.
[/quote]

Geez, I guess pretty soon jokes and good times will be banned with the bathing suit stills. Brutal.

[whatshannenin]

With some good weather I might be able to Monday qualify for the Masters......(Schizophrenia: [color=#111111]brain disorder in which people interpret reality abnormally)[/color]