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Going to Scotland in August and need something good
OK folks, need some opinions here. I'm going to Scotland in August and need to purchase me a good rainsuit. I've read all the thoughts, etc on Galvin Green and to be perfectly honest, I don't think the Euro stuff suits me very much (that goes for JLindeberg as well).

I've narrowed my choices down to FootJoy or Zero Restriction. Now, here's my dilemna...

I have a FootJoy rain jacket that I really like (navy blue). I have a pair of FootJoy rain pants (black) that I really like. Unfortunately, I can't wear them both without being extremely color uncoordinated. I'm not all that sure I like the new FJ jackets that are full zip - mine is a half zip pullover with detachable sleeves. Additionally, my FJ pants are about 1/4 inch too long - just long enough so they drag on the ground and sometimes get stepped on.

ZR, I know is widely regarded as the best available, but there aren't any stores around me to try them on or see what they feel like so that makes it tough. My dad (who is going to Scotland with me) bought himself a ZR suit and I tried it on but felt like I was wearing a trash bag. Not only did it feel very bulky, it also seemed to be very loud. If someone can convince me that it was just an aberration, and that ZR really is the better of my two choices, then I'm fine with that. But with that being said, right now, I'm leaning towards FJ.

So please let me have your opinions on which one I should get. If there are other companies available, I'd be open to hearing about them as well. Thanks!
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I'll bite. I have a Footjoy SS jacket that isn't very waterproof after a couple years. The rain seems to seep through it in the heavy rain!!! They are going to replace it for free though. Maybe the newer version will be better.

 

I have ZR pants that I like alot. The are totally waterproof and unrestricting. I didn't buy the jacket though because I too thought it was too noisy and a little more restricting than I wanted. Was unimpressed with the jacket.

 

I also have an Adidas LS Climaproof jacket that is great. Alot cheaper than the ZR, less noisy, and less restricting. Been very happy with the Adidas line. My only beef is the sleeves move up and down during the swing but that also makes it unrestricting. Haven't tried the Adidas pants.

 

I've also heard some great things about Galvin Green. Pretty spendy though but most of the Euro's swear by it.

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:drinks: Look no further than the Sun Mountain rain Flex, comfy, waterproof, superior :)

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Definitely see if you can check this stuff out. Had see it on the net and then finally got to see it in person last weekend. The clothes are SUPER soft and is like wearing regular clothing. Doesn't have the stiff, trash bag, loud thing to it at all.

 

 

 

:drinks: Look no further than the Sun Mountain rain Flex, comfy, waterproof, superior :)

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Footjoy! Easy decision because they always take care of any of my customers that have issues with the product, no questions asked.

 

I'm going to go the other way and say Zero, because their products are guaranteed waterproof for the life of the garment (not 2 years like Footjoy) and are backed by two companies (Zero and W.L. Gore) so there's no fear of losing warantee coverage ever.

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I've got Stuburt, which are very waterproof, but don't do much in the way of warmth if you wear it when it's cold, so you have to wear a jumper or pullover as well.

 

The Galvin Green one's are brilliant, but really pricey, so are Sunderland of Scotland.

 

You might want to take a look at Proquip. Their stuff is good and quite nice as well.

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I voted FJ. I have their stuff and love it.

 

You should just get a navy pair of pants and a black jacket that way the color corrdinations your worried about is taken care of (I'm that way too) and then you have two rainsuits for the trip.

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Ordinarily, I'd say ZR.

 

BUT you've really got to check out the Sun Mountain RainFlex.

 

It is knitted material -- so no noise and no bulk.

 

Also, the reviews seem to tout it as staying warm - I'm assuming that is the long sleeve version - and it keeps the wet on the outside.

 

It is #1 on my shopping list and you an usually find rainwear for sale now as stores are trying to clear it out for the spring -- I know TGW has rainwear on sale -- and has a limited sale through the weekend now on the Rainflex and other Rain Gear.

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I just got the following:

http://www.zerorestriction.com/catalog/men...elersjacket.asp

 

much improved over my prior ZR jacket, really enjoy the flexibility - long sleeve, mid sleeve and no sleeve. Seems more quiet than the old one.

 

Also, make sure to get rain gloves. I hear the ZR is really good, but I have FJ's that work well.

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For the money you will spend on ZR you can buy two FJ suits or at least 3 FJ garments (at least when you shop as Dan's). The ZR stuff will keep you warmer, but will be stuffy and louder if you are inclined to be hot all of the time while walking. The FJ gear gets rid of heat and moisture better from the inside of the garment in my opinion.

 

THe Sun Mountain Rainflex pants are the best thing I have ever owned. Although, I prefer the FJ short sleeve or Zip-off tops because of the way they fit and move.

 

If you keep any of the new stuff out of the detergent soap of the normal laundry, they will be waterproof nearly forever.

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I agree with DD. It really depends where you are using it. I went with ZR cause of the cold mornings and unzip the sleeves as it gets warmer. The FJ is lighter. I've worn ZR on many log rides and came out dry everytime!

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Well, I'd have to side with DD - Nicholas -- living in Oregon -- he gets rain and wind by the coast more than I could --

 

RainFlex Pants and

 

I still want a ZR Top.

 

Another question -- what top is best for summer rainstorms -- in 75 and above degrees?

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If you are on a budget, I bought a Walter Hagen suit at Dicks Sporting Goods and wore it during a tournament where it rained hard for 2 days straight. I never got wet.

I did buy a light weight Mizuno rain suit from Rock Bottom Golf a few weeks again and I stayed very dry in it - http://store.rockbottomgolf.com/20miztrsuitmen.html

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Don't mean to throw a wrinkle (pun intended) into the discussion, but you should check wind resistance too. It's one thing to have a "waterpproof" garment that works just fine in a steady downpour, it's another thing when the wind starts messing with the fabric and the rain is coming at you with some velocity. Over there especially, where there's rain, there's usually wind.

 

You can always email or call the clubs you'll be playing at and ask what raingear the caddies prefer. They would probably have the knowledge as to what works best, since they're out there every day rain or shine.

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Windproof -- that's what intrigued me about the RainFlex -- in fact, it may be more than rain gear as it has a dual purpose -- wind and rain and warmth.

 

I haven't seen a negative review on the SM RainFlex -- am tempted to get a size larger to account for a sweater in winter/spring and to go for the short sleeve in summer/fall.

 

The pants seem more like a running suit - that is a little baggy instead of the typical bulky and too warm pants of other companies.

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Nothing beat Zero Restriction. I have the Tour lite traveler jacket and pants. I have the jacket in Large and pants in Medium. The jacket zips from long sleeve to short sleeve to vest. and the pants are the ones with the zip at the knee. Nothing keeps you drier. I have a few friends who went to scotland this past summer and it was 50* and raining hard with heavy winds and he said that without the ZR he was toast. he just wore ZR Turtle neck and sweater and was golden. He told me they played one round where the rain was coming sideways and felt like razors cutting your face but he did stay dry. I Love My Zero Restriction. well worth the money especially if your going to Scotland.

 

 

 

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I just purchased the Sun Mountain Rainflex Long Sleeve and Short Sleeve Pullover -- my shoulders are broad and the XL may be the better fit - my local guy had them at 30% off. Rain Gear is a hard sell in Texas. If anyone wants one at this price, pm me - he'd probably like to get rid of the few he has left.

 

It is light. It is warm. It appears windproof. It does move with me.

 

It appears to be rainproof and gravy-proof. A friend was wearing one at a restaurant, the waiter spilled a bowl of gravy on the sleeve of the RainFlex -- my friend took a towel and wiped it clean off -- no stain, no dampness, no proof of gravy!

 

If it passes the chicken-fried gravy test, what more do you need?

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I would say Footjoy, i've been impressed with the raingear i've had over last 3 years. I have a long sleeve and short sleeve jacket and trousers and all 3 have been great.

 

Anyway i can't believe you want to buy a rainsuit for coming to Scotland, hasn't anyone told you it is always sunny and warm here :drinks:

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I really Like my Footjoy Jacket and pants Fit me well and keeps me dry!

 

I know this well in a bad rain storm my basement flooded and my job was running the hose on the pump to get teh water down teh drive way so i stood outside in the pouring rain for 5 hours and wasnt wet except my hat and and hands. it was nice!

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Coming over here in August eh !

You know that in August it can be warm here , even the rain can be warm sometimes !

I would go for a sailing jacket & oil skin trousers a good pair of welly boots & a sou' wester to keep the rain off yer heid ! :cheesy:

Seriously it really is not that bad here in August .

May to end of Aug tends to be reasonable ,just the rest of the year that we go around with webbed feet.

I on a personal note I am looking @ a Sun Mountain Rain flex suit for the coming season (will need to ship it in from your side of the pond though !)

Or............... If that is not viable ----------------Galvin Green !

My tuppece worth !!

Have a good visit to this wonderful country. :rolleyes:

Regards Steven :)

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