Callaway 2014 Apex Pro Irons: In-hand photos

[Dscvrr St Louis]

[quote name='Golfergreat' timestamp='1386953485' post='8294865']
First form comment for me. The apex pro irons look sweet, wondering if the back insert will reduce shock much? Anyone hit these head to head with Pings new 55's?
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Welcome to Wrx!!

Haven't had a chance to hit against the S55's yet..may do that tonight now that you mentioned it. There is good feedback when you miss the Apex Pro..nothing harsh, but you know where you hit it on all shots..good and bad. The insert is not wide, but pretty deep..so it may help a touch..just know that they feel good enough to kick my X Forged out of the bag..and I love those, but the Pro's are more forgiving.

[andre2you]

How do the Apex Pros compare to the Callaway X-Prototypes?

[MrParr1Noid]

[quote name='andre2you' timestamp='1386973311' post='8296513']
How do the Apex Pros compare to the Callaway X-Prototypes?
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Apex Pros (a touch larger) as to the X-Forged, as the X-Forged (a touch larger) are to the X-Prototypes. Apex Pros on one end of the scale, and X-Prototypes on the other end yet the three aren't very far apart.

[mgholda]

I sure hope the Apex Pro's sit better than the Apex or else I am going to stick with Titleist in 2014. I placed an Apex 6 iron on the floor yesterday and it naturally flipped closed which is a major design flaw/oversight IMO. Both the 714 AP1's and AP'2 sat on the ground square. I did not compare to anything else and there was not an Apex Pro available. Can anyone comment?

[hayzooos]

[quote name='mgholda' timestamp='1388524197' post='8375453']
I sure hope the Apex Pro's sit better than the Apex or else I am going to stick with Titleist in 2014. I placed an Apex 6 iron on the floor yesterday and it naturally flipped closed which is a major design flaw/oversight IMO. Both the 714 AP1's and AP'2 sat on the ground square. I did not compare to anything else and there was not an Apex Pro available. Can anyone comment?
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Honest question...what relevance does this have on anything and what would cause it? I don't let the club 'center itself' on the group before I take my grip, I do all that myself before grounding the club. Would offset cause this? Maybe it being too upright?

I know they put tungsten weights in a few of the irons (I think it stops somewhere around the 6 iron, not sure though) so maybe that extra weight causes it?

Either way, I'm genuinely curious what effect this has, if anything. Or is it just a personal preference for you, and it doesn't really change anything in the actual club.

[UnderPar18]

[quote name='mgholda' timestamp='1388524197' post='8375453']
I sure hope the Apex Pro's sit better than the Apex or else I am going to stick with Titleist in 2014. I placed an Apex 6 iron on the floor yesterday and it naturally flipped closed which is a major design flaw/oversight IMO. Both the 714 AP1's and AP'2 sat on the ground square. I did not compare to anything else and there was not an Apex Pro available. Can anyone comment?
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Could just be your eyes. I own the Apex and if they sat closed I would get rid of them in a heart beat.

[mgholda]

[quote name='UnderPar18' timestamp='1388524733' post='8375481']
[quote name='mgholda' timestamp='1388524197' post='8375453']
I sure hope the Apex Pro's sit better than the Apex or else I am going to stick with Titleist in 2014. I placed an Apex 6 iron on the floor yesterday and it naturally flipped closed which is a major design flaw/oversight IMO. Both the 714 AP1's and AP'2 sat on the ground square. I did not compare to anything else and there was not an Apex Pro available. Can anyone comment?
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Could just be your eyes. I own the Apex and if they sat closed I would get rid of them in a heart beat.
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That very well could be the case. I will check them out again and not make any decisions until I see the Apex Pro's in hand and compare on Trackman. For the first time in 10+ years I am very interested in Callaway and want to feel comfortable about switching.

[UnderPar18]

[quote name='mgholda' timestamp='1388525314' post='8375543']
[quote name='UnderPar18' timestamp='1388524733' post='8375481']
[quote name='mgholda' timestamp='1388524197' post='8375453']
I sure hope the Apex Pro's sit better than the Apex or else I am going to stick with Titleist in 2014. I placed an Apex 6 iron on the floor yesterday and it naturally flipped closed which is a major design flaw/oversight IMO. Both the 714 AP1's and AP'2 sat on the ground square. I did not compare to anything else and there was not an Apex Pro available. Can anyone comment?
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Could just be your eyes. I own the Apex and if they sat closed I would get rid of them in a heart beat.
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That very well could be the case. I will check them out again and not make any decisions until I see the Apex Pro's in hand and compare on Trackman. For the first time in 10+ years I am very interested in Callaway and want to feel comfortable about switching.
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Performance is only 1 piece. Being comfortable looking at the club is huge because the last thing you want to do is instill poor swing thoughts. They could sit square to my eyes but closed to yours so regardless you are the one swinging your clubs so you have to play what fits your eyes. Best of luck and if it doesn't work out then so be it. It may be the offset playing with your eyes as well. Let us know what you decide on!

[Timanator]

Got a chance to hit the Apex, and it's nothing special. Golf Smith does not have the Apex Pro yet.

[runpuddrun]

I agree. I was very excited to hit these and was let down. It's a strange club that doesn't know what it wants to be.

[Timanator]

It reminds me alot of the R9 TP. Or the J40's. Yet it's got a thick top line, and not very soft.

[littled1212]

[quote name='Timanator' timestamp='1388533968' post='8376359']
It reminds me alot of the R9 TP. Or the J40's. Yet it's got a thick top line, and not very soft.
[/quote]First two to say that!!! Callaway haters?

[UnderPar18]

[quote name='littled1212' timestamp='1388537057' post='8376643']
[quote name='Timanator' timestamp='1388533968' post='8376359']
It reminds me alot of the R9 TP. Or the J40's. Yet it's got a thick top line, and not very soft.
[/quote]First two to say that!!! Callaway haters?
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The Apex do not resemble the r9 tp's at all. X 20 tours, diablo forged yes, but taylormade no.

[duffer987]

[quote name='UnderPar18' timestamp='1388538543' post='8376781']
[quote name='littled1212' timestamp='1388537057' post='8376643']
[quote name='Timanator' timestamp='1388533968' post='8376359']
It reminds me alot of the R9 TP. Or the J40's. Yet it's got a thick top line, and not very soft.
[/quote]First two to say that!!! Callaway haters?
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The Apex do not resemble the r9 tp's at all. X 20 tours, diablo forged yes, but taylormade no.
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The Apex Pro's look nothing like the X20 tours; however, it is not a massive leap to say there are some design queues that could remind someone of the R9 TPs. Just because they are from different OEMs doesn't negate similarities in the looks dept.

[UnderPar18]

[quote name='duffer987' timestamp='1388539456' post='8376845']
[quote name='UnderPar18' timestamp='1388538543' post='8376781']
[quote name='littled1212' timestamp='1388537057' post='8376643']
[quote name='Timanator' timestamp='1388533968' post='8376359']
It reminds me alot of the R9 TP. Or the J40's. Yet it's got a thick top line, and not very soft.
[/quote]First two to say that!!! Callaway haters?
[/quote]

The Apex do not resemble the r9 tp's at all. X 20 tours, diablo forged yes, but taylormade no.
[/quote]

The Apex Pro's look nothing like the X20 tours; however, it is not a massive leap to say there are some design queues that could remind someone of the R9 TPs. Just because they are from different OEMs doesn't negate similarities in the looks dept.
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If you look a couple posts up I was replying to the person who said the original Apex resembled the r9 tp's and he hasn't been able to hit the pros.

So yes the Apex do resemble the x 20 tours...

[duffer987]

^Fair enough on the Apex v X20 Tours, now was Timinator talking about the Apex Pro or the regular? Surely he must have been referring to the Pros.

[UnderPar18]

[quote name='duffer987' timestamp='1388540109' post='8376907']
^Fair enough on the Apex v X20 Tours, now was Timinator talking about the Apex Pro or the regular? Surely he must have been referring to the Pros.
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Read up 8 posts or so and then 6 posts or so. He was talking about the Apex, not the Apex Pros.

[JB lefty]

I am really looking forwards to trying these out and se how they perform against my x forged. I doubt these will have the beans to kick out the x forged.

[kmo]

Anybody been able to compare the AP to mp64 yet?

[Dscvrr St Louis]

Just noticed the Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 was added to the options on the Callaway site. So another shaft at no upcharge!

[swanry30]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1388772296' post='8391443']
Just noticed the Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 was added to the options on the Callaway site. So another shaft at no upcharge!
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that is very nice!

[kmo]

That's impressive not a lot of companies making the modus 3 a no upcharge shaft, intrigued I am. Now if they will just release the Legacy Black to the states Callaway will have my business again for the first time in few yrs.

[JanKo]

Anyone could compare the Apex Pro to the Legacy Black?

[kmo]

Ive asked the same from what ive been told apex pro slightly smaller not as soft and a little less forgiving very similar in offset slightly thinner top line in apex pro as well. PM me and remind me and ill send some picks to compare legacys should be in about the same time apex pro is released.

[DTown3011]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1388772296' post='8391443']
Just noticed the Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 was added to the options on the Callaway site. So another shaft at no upcharge!
[/quote]

This is again disappointing for a few reasons. Only a custom option (at least being shown) in the Pro and not the regular Apex model. Also showing only stiff flex, no X. Weird?!

[Dscvrr St Louis]

[quote name='DTown3011' timestamp='1389189949' post='8421419']
[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1388772296' post='8391443']
Just noticed the Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 was added to the options on the Callaway site. So another shaft at no upcharge!
[/quote]

This is again disappointing for a few reasons. Only a custom option (at least being shown) in the Pro and not the regular Apex model. Also showing only stiff flex, no X. Weird?!
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Currently, only carry the Taper tip in the Modus 120...so only for the Apex Pro...doesn't mean they won't order the parallel and carry them at a later date if Nippon makes them? not sure. Demand for flexes usually changes what they offer in flex's...all a work on progress for shafts. So right now a hosel dictates which shafts are for which...I think that is about the only one I saw not really offered in both heads...didn't look hard though.

[Barney Boom]

[quote name='kmo' timestamp='1388699659' post='8386973']
Anybody been able to compare the AP to mp64 yet?
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yeah , AP-2 is more forgiving than MP64 . 714 CB are a closer comparison to MP64

[Barney Boom]

Been fitting Apex Pro's for about a month or so . Combination of stock V-Tour shafts and great head design has produced
some phenomenal results for a players iron. definately produces a lower ball flight when compared to similar irons

[bph7]

I hit the Apex (regular, not pro) for a little while at a big box store. It seemed like distances were pretty good, feel was good (not great), but the look of these just screams "GI" to me (and not in a good way). Waaaay thick top line and waaay too much offset. I know a lot of the Callawrx2 posts and other people who have tried them have been suggesting that the Apex look good enough to be a player's club set throughout the bag, but for me it just ain't working. Still interested in trying the Pro's though. Think the feel/looks/flight of those might be better for me.

**Long Disclaimer: Before anyone starts, no, I am not saying these are bad clubs. No, I am not hating on Callaway. Yes, I do think the look of irons is a pretty important factor in my club choices. Finally, and most importantly, I saw no performance gains with the Apex compared to the MP59s and AP2s (just two other demos that happened to be around) that would make me want to game them in spite of their looks (So for all of you who want to say "how stupid are you to value looks over performance", don't bother, it was a combo of looks and a lack of improved performance that led me to my conclusions.)

[DTown3011]

[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1389205897' post='8422961']
[quote name='DTown3011' timestamp='1389189949' post='8421419']
[quote name='Dscvrr St Louis' timestamp='1388772296' post='8391443']
Just noticed the Nippon Modus 3 Tour 120 was added to the options on the Callaway site. So another shaft at no upcharge!
[/quote]

This is again disappointing for a few reasons. Only a custom option (at least being shown) in the Pro and not the regular Apex model. Also showing only stiff flex, no X. Weird?!
[/quote]

Currently, only carry the Taper tip in the Modus 120...so only for the Apex Pro...doesn't mean they won't order the parallel and carry them at a later date if Nippon makes them? not sure. Demand for flexes usually changes what they offer in flex's...all a work on progress for shafts. So right now a hosel dictates which shafts are for which...I think that is about the only one I saw not really offered in both heads...didn't look hard though.
[/quote]

Taper tip shafts work just fine in parallel tip heads, you just need a shim. Why even make them in parallel tip anyways? I'm pretty sure all the PXi shafts they are using are Taper Tip and just adjusting things for each head.