club made in Japan?

DanXDanX Members Posts: 66
I have been reading major company make driver and irons, either be straight forward printed made in China, others few working " assemble in Japan" its quite confusing word.



do you guys know any brand is truly made in Japan from head to toe?
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  • LYGLYG Members Posts: 1,012 ✭✭
    I believe Miura.



    Right?
    TM M2 driver (2016) Fujikura Pro 53
    TM M2 3 and 5 woods, Fujikura Pro 53
    PXG 19 degree hybrid, Fujikura Pro 73
    Mizuno MP 25, 3-PW, Nippon 1150 GH Tour
    Miura wedges, Y grind 53 and 59, Nippon NS Pro
    8802 Palmer or by Cleveland or early 1970's Ping Answer
  • Bogey LondonBogey London Mr. Members Posts: 330 ✭✭
    I have a set of Itobori burning copper irons, 4-P, grip with brand new Lamkin midsize red, shafted with Nippon NSPRO 950 regular. 9/10 as used for 1 year. Spent a lot of money on it.



    Priced to sell 1500$
    "There are three ways of going to ****: women, gambling, and trusting experts. Women are the most fun, gambling is the most exciting, but trusting experts is the most certain."
    (President De Gaulle)
    Driver - PRGR Super Egg Long-Spec 9.5* 
    Fairway wood - Honma TW737 13*
    Rescue - Honma TW 737 15* 
    Irons and Wedges - Itobori copper finish 4-P, 52, 56, 60; Yururi 52, 56, 60
    Putter - Itobori
  • Kingcat990Kingcat990 European Tailored Golf Socks Members Posts: 3,813 ✭✭
    I dont know the details of a few but there are many being blueprinted and manufactured in Japan. Kyoei and Masda come to mind.
    Wyoming Cowboys
  • Bogey LondonBogey London Mr. Members Posts: 330 ✭✭
    I can name a few like Buchi.
    "There are three ways of going to ****: women, gambling, and trusting experts. Women are the most fun, gambling is the most exciting, but trusting experts is the most certain."
    (President De Gaulle)
    Driver - PRGR Super Egg Long-Spec 9.5* 
    Fairway wood - Honma TW737 13*
    Rescue - Honma TW 737 15* 
    Irons and Wedges - Itobori copper finish 4-P, 52, 56, 60; Yururi 52, 56, 60
    Putter - Itobori
  • DanXDanX Members Posts: 66
    does ryoma made their driver/ FW in Japan? I m interested in their FW
  • BigmeanBigmean Everything is Relative Members Posts: 4,920 ✭✭
    Ryoma heads I do not believe are made in Japan.





    However, don’t let that stop you, I love the maxima driver. It is an awesome club. Couldn’t give it enough kudos.
    Ryoma Maxima 9.5*/Quadra Fire Express
    913F 15*/Tour AD MT7
    Roddio 21* hybrid/Tour AD DI75
    Miura 1957 small blades/Nippon 1150 tours
    Wilson Staff V4 tour modus 130
    Mizuno MP-14/DG300-raw finish
    Buchi 50/56. RomaRo 59
    Gold's Factory custom original flat-stick amongst a couple dozen others.
  • 95124hacker95124hacker Rare putter collection Members Posts: 1,300 ✭✭
    Nowadays hard to name one



    You have to go back 5-10 years when Endo made clubs in Japan for Epon, Yamaha, OnOff, PRGR...
    ‘17 M2 “K serial” 10.5* turned down a notch, Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 63S
    '16 M1 3HL (17*), Fujikura Pro 70S
    King F7 2-3 (19*), Fujikura Pro 75h, S
    Epon AF-901 22*, Roddio Pentacross I-8, S
    '11 OnOff Forged 5-PW, Roddio Pentacross I-10, S
    Cleveland RTX-3 V-MG 52* & 58*
    Odyssey WHP CSM 400g
    Ball: Performing validation testing of the M G S test
  • arnaud_33golflabarnaud_33golflab Members Posts: 49
    all VEGA heads (irons and wedges) are made in Japan.
    Independent Clubfitter & Clubmaker
    Bordeaux, France
    www.33golflab.com
  • arnaud_33golflabarnaud_33golflab Members Posts: 49
    Independent Clubfitter & Clubmaker
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  • 3_Putt_Par3_Putt_Par Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion man. Members Posts: 879 ✭✭
    Though the company that owns it isn't Japanese, Honma clubs and shafts are made in Japan.
    9* Ping G400 Max w/ Tour AD GP 7
    14.5* PRGR EGG HD w/ P9003
    18* Titleist 917F2 w/ Diamana BF 80
    24* Honma TW-U w/ Vizard IB 105
    5-PW Callaway Legacy Black (2011) w/ Modus3 125
    52/08 OnOff 2015 Kuro Forged Wedge Black Finish
    56/12 Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth w/ Modus3 125
    60/08 Fourteen RM 21 w/ Modus 125 Wedge
    Ever rotating 3 Putting implement of humiliation
  • 95124hacker95124hacker Rare putter collection Members Posts: 1,300 ✭✭
    3_Putt_Par wrote:


    Though the company that owns it isn't Japanese, Honma clubs and shafts are made in Japan.




    I had thought this also but there’s a thread on TSG that disputes this (assembled in Japan but forged in China). I don’t know who to believe at this point
    ‘17 M2 “K serial” 10.5* turned down a notch, Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 63S
    '16 M1 3HL (17*), Fujikura Pro 70S
    King F7 2-3 (19*), Fujikura Pro 75h, S
    Epon AF-901 22*, Roddio Pentacross I-8, S
    '11 OnOff Forged 5-PW, Roddio Pentacross I-10, S
    Cleveland RTX-3 V-MG 52* & 58*
    Odyssey WHP CSM 400g
    Ball: Performing validation testing of the M G S test
  • 3_Putt_Par3_Putt_Par Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion man. Members Posts: 879 ✭✭
    Yeah, confusing to say the least. My TW-U driving irons and their shafts say "Made in Japan Sakata," so I have no other reason to believe otherwise seeing how strict Japanese laws are on labeling of products.



    There is a good article on [url="https://****.com/know-your-japanese-brands-honma/"]****[/url] which says that they outsourced some manufacturing of the Tour World line to China to "meet demand." The article also says....



    By going more mainstream with the Tour World line, there's criticism Honma is diluting the brand under a narrative of volume sales. This feeling exacerbated by the outsourcing to China, which leaves some of the Tour World Series irons and wedges void of the renowned "Made in JAPAN, Sakata" stamp.



    So, if I am reading it correct, if you see the "Made in Japan, Sakata" on the club it's made in Japan. If not, it's assembled in Japan.
    9* Ping G400 Max w/ Tour AD GP 7
    14.5* PRGR EGG HD w/ P9003
    18* Titleist 917F2 w/ Diamana BF 80
    24* Honma TW-U w/ Vizard IB 105
    5-PW Callaway Legacy Black (2011) w/ Modus3 125
    52/08 OnOff 2015 Kuro Forged Wedge Black Finish
    56/12 Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth w/ Modus3 125
    60/08 Fourteen RM 21 w/ Modus 125 Wedge
    Ever rotating 3 Putting implement of humiliation
  • Kingcat990Kingcat990 European Tailored Golf Socks Members Posts: 3,813 ✭✭
    Several of the series when purchased new in store will state on the box they come in "made in china". Very few models are "made in japan". What I have found is all of the GI clubs are chinese, where select forged irons are made and assembled in Japan. It seems to me they just moved some of their process to China that they no longer wanted to support in house
    Wyoming Cowboys
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Posts: 2,195 ClubWRX
    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.
    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • 95124hacker95124hacker Rare putter collection Members Posts: 1,300 ✭✭
    edited May 27, 2018 #16
    dmeeksDC wrote:


    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.




    Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.



    Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.
    ‘17 M2 “K serial” 10.5* turned down a notch, Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 63S
    '16 M1 3HL (17*), Fujikura Pro 70S
    King F7 2-3 (19*), Fujikura Pro 75h, S
    Epon AF-901 22*, Roddio Pentacross I-8, S
    '11 OnOff Forged 5-PW, Roddio Pentacross I-10, S
    Cleveland RTX-3 V-MG 52* & 58*
    Odyssey WHP CSM 400g
    Ball: Performing validation testing of the M G S test
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Posts: 2,195 ClubWRX

    dmeeksDC wrote:


    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.




    Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.



    Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.




    Sorry, I meant Miura’s one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.



    Thailand I don’t know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.
    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • masliemaslie Members Posts: 238 ✭✭
    This one for sure made in Japan with decent price and some bargain too.



    https://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/toho562/?page=1



    Driver -
    Ryoma Premia - Diamana B.
    Fw -
    #3 Cally Legacy'10 - Diamana R.
    #5 Rbz stg1 tour TP std Rul.
    #7 Cleaveland Launcher 1st gen std Fuji gold.
    Irons -
    #4-Hy JBeam.
    #5-Pw Romaro Ray H modus 120.
    Wedges -
    52 & 58 Fourteen Rm 12 std Dg.
    Putter -
    Masda studio 1.
  • ThayneilThayneil Members Posts: 530 ✭✭
    dmeeksDC wrote:


    dmeeksDC wrote:


    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo's brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.




    Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.



    Miura's Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.




    Sorry, I meant Miura's one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.



    Thailand I don't know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.




    The Endo plant in Thailand is suppose to be brilliant



    all features done in house,chroming etc



    One of the top clubmakers in Singapore has toured it and gave it 100%
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC ClubWRX Posts: 2,195 ClubWRX
    Thayneil wrote:

    dmeeksDC wrote:


    dmeeksDC wrote:


    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo's brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.




    Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.



    Miura's Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.




    Sorry, I meant Miura's one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.



    Thailand I don't know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.




    The Endo plant in Thailand is suppose to be brilliant



    all features done in house,chroming etc



    One of the top clubmakers in Singapore has toured it and gave it 100%




    Good info and not surprising. The technology and precision in some of these plants is remarkable. I have a steel bicycle frame — steel frames are lighter these days and last forever, far longer than carbon fiber or fragile aluminum — and it was laser-welded in a new plant in Taiwan. The finish on it is perfect. No thick weld beads like you usually see.



    Your post tells me Endo forged in Thailand means worth considering.
    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
  • 95124hacker95124hacker Rare putter collection Members Posts: 1,300 ✭✭
    The key thing is know is: is the Manufacturing PROCESS and QA/QC the same or better in these low cost regions vs Japan? Obviously the labor rate & taxes are lower but if the processes aren’t compromised, then in the end, it shouldn’t matter.
    ‘17 M2 “K serial” 10.5* turned down a notch, Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 63S
    '16 M1 3HL (17*), Fujikura Pro 70S
    King F7 2-3 (19*), Fujikura Pro 75h, S
    Epon AF-901 22*, Roddio Pentacross I-8, S
    '11 OnOff Forged 5-PW, Roddio Pentacross I-10, S
    Cleveland RTX-3 V-MG 52* & 58*
    Odyssey WHP CSM 400g
    Ball: Performing validation testing of the M G S test
  • dunndunn Members Posts: 6,361 ✭✭
    What about mizuno



    Their forgings are all done in japan
  • asw7576asw7576 Members Posts: 1,089
    edited Jun 24, 2018 #23
    dunn wrote:


    What about mizuno



    Their forgings are all done in japan




    Only mizuno high end products are made in Japan.... ie. from Mizuno Yoro plant and Chuo plant.
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    [font=Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Hybrids : Taylormade RBZ S2, SLDRS S[/font]
    [font=Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]Irons : Mizuno JPX 800 HD, Yamaha Inpres X Z Cavity 2013 & Z 2016, Maruman Titus & X1 [/font]
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  • theshadow1971theshadow1971 Shadow Members Posts: 439


    Nowadays hard to name one



    You have to go back 5-10 years when Endo made clubs in Japan for Epon, Yamaha, OnOff, PRGR...






    Epon is Endo's own brand they make!
    Srixon (asian specs)

    Z545 10.5* Driver
    Z F45 15* 3W
    Z H45 19* 3 Hybrid
    Z745 3-PW

    Z745 [email protected]* & [email protected]*

    Cleveland Classic HB 2 Black Pearl Putter
    Bridgestone B330RXS
  • idriveidrive gone golfin Members Posts: 2,106 ✭✭



    Nowadays hard to name one



    You have to go back 5-10 years when Endo made clubs in Japan for Epon, Yamaha, OnOff, PRGR...






    Epon is Endo's own brand they make!




    Yes, but they do have and also use the plant in Taiwan. The forgings from this plant are as good perhaps better than the forgings in Japan as this is there newest most state of the art facility.
  • theshadow1971theshadow1971 Shadow Members Posts: 439
    dmeeksDC wrote:

    Thayneil wrote:

    dmeeksDC wrote:


    dmeeksDC wrote:


    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo's brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.




    Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.



    Miura's Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.




    Sorry, I meant Miura's one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.



    Thailand I don't know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.




    The Endo plant in Thailand is suppose to be brilliant



    all features done in house,chroming etc



    One of the top clubmakers in Singapore has toured it and gave it 100%




    Good info and not surprising. The technology and precision in some of these plants is remarkable. I have a steel bicycle frame — steel frames are lighter these days and last forever, far longer than carbon fiber or fragile aluminum — and it was laser-welded in a new plant in Taiwan. The finish on it is perfect. No thick weld beads like you usually see.



    Your post tells me Endo forged in Thailand means worth considering.






    Taiwan is good for steels products like bicycle frames and golf shafts eg KBS. As for Thailand it is one of the largest car manufacturing regions in the southern hemisphere, hence ENDO being in Thailand. Interestingly Thailand seems to be a destination for golf manufactuing, Golf Pride (and I think Lamkin) have manufacturing facilities there, Foot Joy as well, I know their Pure Touch glove is made in Thailand.
    Srixon (asian specs)

    Z545 10.5* Driver
    Z F45 15* 3W
    Z H45 19* 3 Hybrid
    Z745 3-PW

    Z745 [email protected]* & [email protected]*

    Cleveland Classic HB 2 Black Pearl Putter
    Bridgestone B330RXS
  • golftechgolftech Members Posts: 413 ✭✭
    dmeeksDC wrote:

    dmeeksDC wrote:


    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.




    Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.



    Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.




    Sorry, I meant Miura’s one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.



    Thailand I don’t know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.




    I thought all Miura’s are two piece - spin welded necks.
  • theshadow1971theshadow1971 Shadow Members Posts: 439
    golftech wrote:

    dmeeksDC wrote:

    dmeeksDC wrote:


    My working assumption is that Miura and Epon (Endo’s brand name) forged heads are Japanese forged. They are not always assembled in Japan. They do sell just heads and are assembled by builders everywhere, including the U.S.




    Endo has a plant in Thailand. Not sure what the split is between Japan & Thailand.



    Miura’s Passing Point Neo Genesis line is made in China & inspected in Japan.




    Sorry, I meant Miura’s one piece forgings. Neo Genesis is a two piece club. The face is an insert. I try to avoid Chinese forging unless certain circumstances, siuch as the OEM owns the forging house or the house is known and expected. China is a huge country and some manufacturers make excellent heads and some are really no better than counterfeit clubs the tolerances are so loose.



    Thailand I don’t know much about golf-wise. Taiwan manufacturing is well-regarded in many fields, such as steel bicycle frames, which are outstanding in my epxerience. The challenge is China can be great or awful, and it can be difficult for consumers to know.




    I thought all Miura’s are two piece - spin welded necks.




    I think you are correct on that point - there are videos of the Miura & MG models having the hosel spin welded. I think are only a handful of brands that make fully single piece clubs, and then you get brands milling from single blocks of forged steel for their irons eg Seven Golf.
    Srixon (asian specs)

    Z545 10.5* Driver
    Z F45 15* 3W
    Z H45 19* 3 Hybrid
    Z745 3-PW

    Z745 [email protected]* & [email protected]*

    Cleveland Classic HB 2 Black Pearl Putter
    Bridgestone B330RXS
  • BongggBonggg Members Posts: 28 ✭✭
    Yururi and Seven are made in Japan
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    Sorry if off-topic. I bought some JDM Nike Vapor Pro Irons, was wondering if they differ from the USDM model in any other way aside from color and shaft selection. Where would these have been made?
    i'm playing nike everything till i'm not
  • TzoidTzoid Members Posts: 1,665 ✭✭
    My Irons are made in Japan.... OnOff Kuro 2015

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    Ping G400 3 Wood Aldila Rogue Silver 110 M.S.I. 70
    Ping G25 20 & Anser 23 Hybrid
    ONOFF KURO 2015 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 120S
    Scratch 50 54 58 Forged Wedges Nippon WV 115 Shafts
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Studio Stainless
    Ping Vault 2.0 Dale Anser Custom
    Titleist Pro V-1X
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