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  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    I went out the day after the above post and played 9, shooting a 39. Then got swamped with work, life, kids getting sick, then me getting sick, went 10 days without touching a club, then went to go play today and it was a disaster. 90 with two triples. I really did feel like things were coming together, but I really struggle maintaining if I am not swinging a club at least once a week, preferably 2-3x.



    I do want to cut back at work a bit, I am feeling pretty whipped at the moment. However, the offseason is nearly upon us, so maybe I'll power through until spring of 2019. I'll be working overnights the next week so it's looking like another rough stretch coming up.



    Here's how the swing was looking 2 weeks ago. No idea what it looked like today.



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    I have read about half of Ray Floyd's book, and have taken away the "play comfortable" approach so far, seems solid.
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  • ryan983ryan983 Members Posts: 673 ✭✭
    Extending properly in the backswing would do wonders for your game. You have way too much bend at the waist at the top of your backswing. Leads to a lack of depth at the top of your swing and you have no choice but to be steep on it.
  • mstrammstram Members Posts: 188 ClubWRX
    ryan983 wrote:


    Extending properly in the backswing would do wonders for your game. You have way too much bend at the waist at the top of your backswing. Leads to a lack of depth at the top of your swing and you have no choice but to be steep on it.




    What do you mean by depth ? - how far the arms are extended "behind" the body ? (is what I understand it to mean)



    If so, how would the amount of bend in the waist affect how far the arms are extended ?



    If so, then the swing plane upright / flat would be the main thing affecting "depth" ?
  • ryan983ryan983 Members Posts: 673 ✭✭
    mstram wrote:

    ryan983 wrote:


    Extending properly in the backswing would do wonders for your game. You have way too much bend at the waist at the top of your backswing. Leads to a lack of depth at the top of your swing and you have no choice but to be steep on it.




    What do you mean by depth ? - how far the arms are extended "behind" the body ? (is what I understand it to mean)



    If so, how would the amount of bend in the waist affect how far the arms are extended ?



    If so, then the swing plane upright / flat would be the main thing affecting "depth" ?




    While looking at yourself in a mirror from DTL, make a good backswing and see what happens to the line from the butt end of the club to the ground if you bend less or more from the waist.



    With a lot of bend, you would have to swing your arms super flat in order to get that line behind by your heels.
  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    ryan983 wrote:


    Extending properly in the backswing would do wonders for your game. You have way too much bend at the waist at the top of your backswing. Leads to a lack of depth at the top of your swing and you have no choice but to be steep on it.




    Can you elaborate on how exactly to extend properly in the backswing?
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  • ryan983ryan983 Members Posts: 673 ✭✭
    robdalky wrote:

    ryan983 wrote:


    Extending properly in the backswing would do wonders for your game. You have way too much bend at the waist at the top of your backswing. Leads to a lack of depth at the top of your swing and you have no choice but to be steep on it.




    Can you elaborate on how exactly to extend properly in the backswing?










  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    Got out to play on Saturday with a friend and two of his acquaintances. One was a college golfer and was very accustomed to playing the tips, since he was out at our club he had insisted we play them (7200 yards, I usually play around 6800 and don't recall ever playing the tips for a full round anywhere). I, of course, was going to roll with it. The course plays to a 75.1/142 from the back tees. I played fairly well with a 40-45=85, hitting 7 greens and finishing with 31 putts. I left a few strokes out there on the back, but got off the tee pretty well and came away with a nice birdie on the front. The highlight shot of the day was a 30-35 yard pitch short sided to an elevated tucked pin, played the ball back and clipped it low with a ton of spin, took one bounce and stopped dead a foot from the hole. Possibly the best short pitch I've hit in my life.



    The one thing I will say is that the par 3's were insanely tough from the tips (normally only "very tough" from the other tees). The second one played 243 to the pin over water. Strangely I found the back tees to be extremely fun, when I thought beforehand it would be a round-ruining beatdown.



    My one true focus was keeping the right foot down in transition as FWP and I worked on the last lesson. Secondarily I just tried to ensure my hips and pelvis were making a decent move.



    Last two rounds knocked some low scores off the handicap for me so I briefly went up to an 8.4 but back to an 8.3 after the last round.



    I will admit that my "data tracking" has died off. When determining how to spend my time, I tend to use it actually practicing rather than keeping track of practice, but I think if I continue to practice intentionally I'll keep seeing improvement. I will plan on periodically "checking up" on my performance on chipping within 3 feet, putt make rates at different distances, etc., but it seems like a waste of time to do that every time I go out to practice.



    My next goal is to try and shave two more strokes off, get to 6.4 for the TGA four ball qualifier. There is a regional four ball and a mid-am that cut off at 8.4 that begin in February/March, which I will consider. The MGA at my club starts off with monthly events beginning in February, so it'll just depend on scheduling as to which stuff I'll play in.



    Probably be due for another lesson here shortly with FWP, but after my last round I'm feeling pretty good.
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  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    edited Oct 9, 2018 #69
    ryan983 wrote:

    robdalky wrote:

    ryan983 wrote:


    Extending properly in the backswing would do wonders for your game. You have way too much bend at the waist at the top of your backswing. Leads to a lack of depth at the top of your swing and you have no choice but to be steep on it.




    Can you elaborate on how exactly to extend properly in the backswing?






    https://www.instagra.../p/BlIypQblSJV/




    From FO it does not seem like my head is doing any of the movements that Monte references that indicate this problem, but I'll see what FWP says. I know I have a related issue, though, which is, is an under-turn of the thoracic spine/ribcage and occasionally the hands getting disconnected from my body with an arm-overswing. Thanks for the video!
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  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    edited Oct 9, 2018 #70
    ryan983 wrote:

    mstram wrote:

    ryan983 wrote:


    Extending properly in the backswing would do wonders for your game. You have way too much bend at the waist at the top of your backswing. Leads to a lack of depth at the top of your swing and you have no choice but to be steep on it.




    What do you mean by depth ? - how far the arms are extended "behind" the body ? (is what I understand it to mean)



    If so, how would the amount of bend in the waist affect how far the arms are extended ?



    If so, then the swing plane upright / flat would be the main thing affecting "depth" ?




    While looking at yourself in a mirror from DTL, make a good backswing and see what happens to the line from the butt end of the club to the ground if you bend less or more from the waist.



    With a lot of bend, you would have to swing your arms super flat in order to get that line behind by your heels.




    Are you saying that the line should be behind the heels?



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  • ryan983ryan983 Members Posts: 673 ✭✭
    edited Oct 9, 2018 #71
    Not a requirement but it helps to shallow the club out if you can get it deeper. When you are strong as Brooks, you can do things that normal people can’t.



    You are too bent over at the top of the backswing. Your head might not be doing what Monte is showing in the videos but you still need to working on extending. Point your chest up and don’t maintain your forward bend so much....it will make it easier to turn your ribcage.
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    Koepka is quite shut on the initial backswing. Love it.
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  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    edited Oct 22, 2018 #73
    Played this weekend and shot 81, bringing my handicap down to a new all time low for me of 8.1. Ball striking was poor with only 5 greens hit, but outside of a three jack (missed a sidewinding 2 1/2 or 3 footer... $%@$;^#$), my putting was superb.



    My scores are lower than they used to be, overall there's no question that something good is happening since about August, but my swing doesn't feel great. Just kind of, "loose", maybe a little disorganized, not sure, can't put my finger on it. Maybe that's because I really haven't played or practiced as much as I need to (outside of putting and a couple days chipping/pitching) since mid September, partially due to work and partially due to biblical rains (near-record, 11 inches in the first 3 weeks of October in DFW). Just don't have anything "grooved" right now.



    Overall due to hit up FWP for another round of lessons to see if I can fix that feeling. Scores better but feels a long way off from the 70s right now.
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  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    edited Nov 13, 2018 #74
    I got in for another session with FWP and had four main things that I need to correct (my interpretation of our lesson, anyhow). I had noticed a recent loss of distance and it seems like a couple things were contributing to that.



    1. I need to load my right side better (more pressure on the right side at the top of the backswing).

    2. As a corollary, as alluded to by ryan983, when I do load my right side, I have a tendency to not extend my spine as well as I should. My head actually does move away from the target slightly at times, and this is a disaster.

    3. I need to get my left knee outside my left hip and foot at around p5. I accomplish this with focusing on a squat move at transition (snead squat, whatever variation you may use). Pic attached.

    4. The club needs to work more around and less out after impact, and I need to hold my right wrist angle more while allowing the club to turn over. This is super hard for me to describe and also probably the most difficult of these four things to do. In practice, I feel as though my right hand stays on top of the grip through and after impact but retains some extension at the right wrist. The check for this is to make sure the club isn't passing my hands on a DTL view by just before p8.



    While trying to do these things, I found a couple of interesting things. First, my club face at the top tends to be closed for some reason (haven't changed my grip and previously it's square, so not sure what's up with that), this is causing some hooks. Second, I found I would hit a wedge super low, like, 30 feet off the ground, with a slight draw, with insane spin - enough to bring a range ball back 5 feet at the range. When I did this once off the fairway on the course the one round I played, I spun the ball back about 30 feet from the back of the green all the way to the front edge (pin was in the back, this was bad).



    Not totally sure what to make of it all, but I've got a lot to work on.



    I find it super hard to actually play golf while taking lessons for several weeks after making some tweaks, but it is what it is. Attached is one of the P5 views and a post-lesson swing working primarily on point #4. Love the way I rotate through impact. Hard to translate to the full swing so far.



    Hcp down to a new low of 8.0.



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  • ryan983ryan983 Members Posts: 673 ✭✭
    I know you didn't ask but my opinion hasn't changed....you need to make #2 the priority. You haven't lost any spine angle in the video posted. Better depth though! Would be interesting to see a full golf swing instead of a half swing.



    If you actually extended and didn't maintain so much bend at the waist, it will be much easier to load into your right side(#1) and get the club to work more around you to the left (#4). It's going to be really tough to get the club to exit left when you are that bent over at the top of your backswing. you'd have to contrive an OTT move to get the club to move left from the position you are in.



    Best of luck to you
  • robdalkyrobdalky Members Posts: 165 ✭✭
    edited Nov 15, 2018 #76
    Had one good range session yesterday and then one not so good one today. Was trying to focus on the same things, for some reason was striping the ball yesterday including pounding the driver with more distance than I'd expect and then today just didn't feel the same. Everything except the 3w off the deck was a pull or occasional hook with the driver.



    The one thing that was good today was striking felt really good among the short irons, better than usual.



    Playing a round tomorrow. I had been shooting pretty well lately but I'll be trying to grind out my new swing thoughts so not expecting to shoot too well. Will just be focusing on the four points above and the last thing is trying to keep my right heel down a bit longer in the downswing... That's 5 things... too many? 95 here we come.. haha.



    Will probably see where I am with FWP next Monday or Tuesday.
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