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Effect on performance of not tip trimming shaft per OEM

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JD3JD3 Members  5091WRX Points: 414Posts: 5,091 Titanium Tees
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So I have the feeling the shaft on my hybrid wasn't trimmed per KBS guide of about 1" to 1&1/4" per that loft (if I'm reading it correctly). This is for the KBS Tour Prototype Hybrid shaft. What would the effect be on shaft performance if it were installed without being tip trimmed?

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Ping G410 HB 19 KBS Graphite Tour Hybrid 85s+
Callaway Apex 2019 4 - AW KBS Tour 120s (hard stepped 1x)
Yururi Tataki 52.5 & 60.5 KBS Hi Rev 125s
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  • hubleehublee Members  125WRX Points: 82Posts: 125 Fairways
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    It will play softer by a few CPM, but an inch or more could make it play close to a half flex, without getting too technical.

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  • JD3JD3 Members  5091WRX Points: 414Posts: 5,091 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @hublee said:

    It will play softer by a few CPM, but an inch or more could make it play close to a half flex, without getting too technical.

    Thanks, will it effect launch angle? i.e. by putting the kickpoint in a higher relative position?

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    TM M1 2017 10.5 Aldila NV 2KXV Green 65x
    TM M1 2016 3W HL Aldila NV 2KXV Green 75x
    Ping G410 HB 19 KBS Graphite Tour Hybrid 85s+
    Callaway Apex 2019 4 - AW KBS Tour 120s (hard stepped 1x)
    Yururi Tataki 52.5 & 60.5 KBS Hi Rev 125s
    Ping Anser 2 Milled
    NDMC Grips (extra wrap lower half to reduce taper)
    Titleist AVX 
    UA Jordan Spieth 2
    Footjoy Tour Glove (optional, often times play without glove)
  • Howard_JonesHoward_Jones Members  11645WRX Points: 2,300Posts: 11,645 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @JD3 said:

    So I have the feeling the shaft on my hybrid wasn't trimmed per KBS guide of about 1" to 1&1/4" per that loft (if I'm reading it correctly). This is for the KBS Tour Prototype Hybrid shaft. What would the effect be on shaft performance if it were installed without being tip trimmed?

    Never mind butt CPM changes on Graphites, think in terms of head weight and "stepping"
    1 inch = SS2 and higher launch. Most of the shafts in my own bag is altered to become like i want them this way, so my woods and hybrids are SS1 to SS2 depending on the shaft, and since im only using Low to LOW mid profiles, they all become about "MID" as launch.

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  • JD3JD3 Members  5091WRX Points: 414Posts: 5,091 Titanium Tees
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    This wasnt tip trimmed. What is ss1 vs ss2?

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    TM M1 2016 3W HL Aldila NV 2KXV Green 75x
    Ping G410 HB 19 KBS Graphite Tour Hybrid 85s+
    Callaway Apex 2019 4 - AW KBS Tour 120s (hard stepped 1x)
    Yururi Tataki 52.5 & 60.5 KBS Hi Rev 125s
    Ping Anser 2 Milled
    NDMC Grips (extra wrap lower half to reduce taper)
    Titleist AVX 
    UA Jordan Spieth 2
    Footjoy Tour Glove (optional, often times play without glove)
  • Howard_JonesHoward_Jones Members  11645WRX Points: 2,300Posts: 11,645 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @JD3 said:

    This wasnt tip trimmed. What is ss1 vs ss2?

    Soft stepping once or soft stepping twice, just like we can make a Iron shaft 1/3 of a flex weaker by using a #3 iron shaft to the #4 iron head (the shaft play softer because the #4 head is plus 7 grams up from the #3 head, and we shorten butt 0.5" vs original ), we can soft step woods the same way, by using tip trim instructions for a 3W, but used for a 5W who has 10 grams more head weight, than a 3W has...

    Think using a lure on a fishing rod, more weight the lure got, the softer becomes the same fishing rod, and thats what we do here, we change the weight of the club head, or move shafts "1 or 2 steps" = SS1 or SS2 for short in Golf tech terms.

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  • PepperturboPepperturbo Midwest and SouthwestMembers  16996WRX Points: 1,082Handicap: 4-5Posts: 16,996 Titanium Tees
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    I chose to prep the tips but not tip-trim a PX 6C12, PX 7C3 and the PX HZRDUS Red 6.0 shaft I currently use and didn't notice any effect. However, when I tip-trimmed the second PX 6C12 then took an extra 1/2" off the tip I noticed it played more to my liking. Stayed in the bag for a long time, till recently. It depends on your attention to detail or how it feels. My driver playing length is 44.5"

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  • KMo23KMo23 Members  164WRX Points: 43Posts: 164 Fairways
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    That shaft isn’t supposed to be tipped at all.

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  • JD3JD3 Members  5091WRX Points: 414Posts: 5,091 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @KMo23 said:

    That shaft isn’t supposed to be tipped at all.

    Yes you're right. I contacted KBS CS and that's what they said. The trimming guide online is for the steel Hybrid predecessor

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    TM M1 2016 3W HL Aldila NV 2KXV Green 75x
    Ping G410 HB 19 KBS Graphite Tour Hybrid 85s+
    Callaway Apex 2019 4 - AW KBS Tour 120s (hard stepped 1x)
    Yururi Tataki 52.5 & 60.5 KBS Hi Rev 125s
    Ping Anser 2 Milled
    NDMC Grips (extra wrap lower half to reduce taper)
    Titleist AVX 
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