Kevin Na on the Presidents Cup team

[GoGoErky]

> @umassgolfer said:

> > @GoGoErky said:

> > > @umassgolfer said:

> > > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > > > @umassgolfer said:

> > > > > Never understood why tournament wins matter in the team selection process. I guess it proves someone can close things out? Seem to me In a format of alternate shot/matchplay, etc., you'd want the guy with the skills for the course and the best birdie percentage, not the best 18 hole

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> > > > Birdies gets us three guys anywhere from 120ish to 170ish OWGR based on 2019.

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> > > > Wins are obvious, teams are a reward for excellence not trying to sort through hundreds of different stats and subjectively guessing whose game is suited to a course. They could probably deem some formula to be controlling, but doubt players would want that or the Tour. Win and perform in competition and you play. Easiest and most identifiable metric and incentive.

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> > > If you view selection as a reward for prior play then ok. But if you see Pres Cup/Ryder Cup as a competition and want to win it, I don't know how you can take that stance. For Presidents Cup, who cares...wouldn't be surprised if the TOUR controlled it all and it's based on Q Score anyways.

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> > > But for Ryder Cup, where US has struggled of late, I'd love to see some more thought put into the selection than "they won a couple tournaments the past two years playing a completely different format on completely different courses than what we're picking him to play".

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> > > Maybe Birdie percentage isn't the right stat. Maybe the captain/committee should take a look at guys who have had a history of success and see what common characteristics contribute to their success and what current players those profiles align with. With as much information as is available, why willfully disregard that?

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> > Winning tournaments and playing well in the ones you don’t win is how you get on the team automatically regardless of your game is suited for that course or not. So why wouldn’t it make sense for a captain to look at performance as a main criteria for their picks.

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> That's a bit like saying the batting average leader should be in the home run derby, no?

 

Well considering the auto qualified spots are based on points earned which are gained by performance why would those not qualified by cutoff date be subject to some other criteria? Imo the only reason there is a full team of qualified members and they use captain picks to create “drama.” The number of captains picks has changed over the years as has the cutoff date thanks to the billy ho rule

[umassgolfer]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> > @umassgolfer said:

> > > @GoGoErky said:

> > > > @umassgolfer said:

> > > > > @Hawkeye77 said:

> > > > > > @umassgolfer said:

> > > > > > Never understood why tournament wins matter in the team selection process. I guess it proves someone can close things out? Seem to me In a format of alternate shot/matchplay, etc., you'd want the guy with the skills for the course and the best birdie percentage, not the best 18 hole

> > > > >

> > > > > Birdies gets us three guys anywhere from 120ish to 170ish OWGR based on 2019.

> > > > >

> > > > > Wins are obvious, teams are a reward for excellence not trying to sort through hundreds of different stats and subjectively guessing whose game is suited to a course. They could probably deem some formula to be controlling, but doubt players would want that or the Tour. Win and perform in competition and you play. Easiest and most identifiable metric and incentive.

> > > >

> > > > If you view selection as a reward for prior play then ok. But if you see Pres Cup/Ryder Cup as a competition and want to win it, I don't know how you can take that stance. For Presidents Cup, who cares...wouldn't be surprised if the TOUR controlled it all and it's based on Q Score anyways.

> > > >

> > > > But for Ryder Cup, where US has struggled of late, I'd love to see some more thought put into the selection than "they won a couple tournaments the past two years playing a completely different format on completely different courses than what we're picking him to play".

> > > >

> > > > Maybe Birdie percentage isn't the right stat. Maybe the captain/committee should take a look at guys who have had a history of success and see what common characteristics contribute to their success and what current players those profiles align with. With as much information as is available, why willfully disregard that?

> > >

> > > Winning tournaments and playing well in the ones you don’t win is how you get on the team automatically regardless of your game is suited for that course or not. So why wouldn’t it make sense for a captain to look at performance as a main criteria for their picks.

> > >

> >

> > That's a bit like saying the batting average leader should be in the home run derby, no?

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> LOL, no - it's like saying the teams that win the most get in the playoffs.

 

I thought they already have a playoffs for the players who win the most/do the best in the regular season?

 

 

[tiderider]

i was wrong ... i'd love to have kevin na on the team, instead of dj and reed and woodland ... i'm sorry kevin!

[wely324]

I'd love to see Kevin Na out there, and my first replacement pick would be DJ. He just went through surgery and hasn't been playing much, while KevNa was on fire this past fall!

[tacklingdummy]

Na would be good for a team event. He is fun to watch. Lots of fire and not robotic personality.