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So I fairly recently picked up the new vokeys 56M and 60K with DG Tour Issue S400 shafts and I'm slightly disappointed with the shafts. This is my first time playing anything DG in quite some time.....been playing PX in my wedges for some time now. I don't mind the shaft in the LW, but the SW seems to spin far too much. I suppose I can see why the pros love them on fast hard courses, but not sure I'm a fan. Anyone else find this? Think I may reshaft the SW to PX. Curious what others experience is with the DG TI shafts in the wedges? Thank you.

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I play the DGTI S400 in my wedges because they spin more. Don't we usually want more spin from our wedges?

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Certainly don't disagree......but I've lost a full club distance out of the fairway with the SW. I can certainly adjust....

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Titleist TSi2 16.5, Fujikura Ventus Red Velocore 7X, 43"

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You shouldn't be expecting miracles. Tour issue just means more of a weight tolerance. If you're spinning it too much maybe move to x100

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+1 on move to x100......I had same issue with s400..too much spin...huge distance loss..moved to x100 plenty of hold on the greens but flatter more consistant trajectory and distance back to normal

 

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You couldn't have more different shafts in PX vs DG, IMO. Going from a PX to a DG is very, very different. DG's will spin a lot more, which is why I have the S400's in my wedges, for more spin.

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[quote name='DNice26' timestamp='1399206763' post='9228553']
Hey guys,

So I fairly recently picked up the new vokeys 56M and 60K with DG Tour Issue S400 shafts and I'm slightly disappointed with the shafts. This is my first time playing anything DG in quite some time.....been playing PX in my wedges for some time now. I don't mind the shaft in the LW, but the SW seems to spin far too much. I suppose I can see why the pros love them on fast hard courses, but not sure I'm a fan. Anyone else find this? Think I may reshaft the SW to PX. Curious what others experience is with the DG TI shafts in the wedges? Thank you.
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Might be the shafts' weight difference more than anything. DG shafts and PX shafts aren't that far off from one another in the launch and spin department. But the weight should be noticeable between the two.

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[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1399221496' post='9229417']
One club variation is not because of the shafts. Something else wrong.
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Two different grinds. One might be helping to get under the ball more to gain spin.

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Vokey advocates going softer in the shafts in the lob and SW, even to guys on tour. Most pro's are in x100s in their irons and he suggests even going down to s200 in order to be able to feel the heads better. Most SW and LW shots are not full shots. These are scoring clubs around the greens and it's far more important that you be able to feel and finesse them. Maybe the answer lies in 52, 54 wedges and ability to hit shots with them and gearing down with 3/4 swings instead of full SW.

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[quote name='stage1350' timestamp='1399222700' post='9229489']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1399221496' post='9229417']
One club variation is not because of the shafts. Something else wrong.
[/quote]

Two different grinds. One might be helping to get under the ball more to gain spin.
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No. I don't care how different the grinds are, there is no way that will affect the shot to the tune of 1 club difference in distance. Either the loft is off, or it's a poor strike.

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[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1399227948' post='9229837']
[quote name='stage1350' timestamp='1399222700' post='9229489']
[quote name='Nessism' timestamp='1399221496' post='9229417']
One club variation is not because of the shafts. Something else wrong.
[/quote]

Two different grinds. One might be helping to get under the ball more to gain spin.
[/quote]

No. I don't care how different the grinds are, there is no way that will affect the shot to the tune of 1 club difference in distance. Either the loft is off, or it's a poor strike.
[/quote] Agreed but the poor strike may be caused by a different grind that doesn't fit the swing

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I'm a 1 handicap, so seems unlikely to be a poor strike. I will get the lofts checked though.

Titleist TSi2 10, Fujikura Ventus Blue Velocore 6X, 45"

Titleist TSi2 16.5, Fujikura Ventus Red Velocore 7X, 43"

TaylorMade GAPR Mid 4, KBS

Titleist T100S, KBS C-Taper S+ 5-PW

Titleist SM8, 50F, 54S, 60D, TT S400 Custom 

Scotty Cameron Phantom X12, 35", Stability Tour


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