Ping i-e Irons?

[DrSchteeve]

can someone direct me to the post# with the specs in this 26 page thread? thanks!

[Gogogadgetwilly]

I wonder if Ping read this and take note of the colour scheme issue....

[eldog-in-the-hizouse]

Love the looks the more I see of them. But how are they different or better than my 2013 Ansers?

[eRock_Reno]

Here is a picture of Westwood and his new Ping iE1 irons.

[Dat_Dude]

^ You know that look is something along the lines of "holy $*#& that felt amazing".

[doubleagle2]

I got my first in hand look today. They look nice thin top line at address I always felt The i series would fit my game better but have always played the s series because of the look. Did not think I would be interested wrong I am tempted did not get to hit so we will have to see.

[Golfdoctor]

[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435874437' post='11878536']
I got my first in hand look today. They look nice thin top line at address I always felt The i series would fit my game better but have always played the s series because of the look. Did not think I would be interested wrong I am tempted did not get to hit so we will have to see.
[/quote]
Are they using the same CTP in the cavity as in the S55's and Glide wedge's?

[doubleagle2]

[quote name='Golfdoctor' timestamp='1435876494' post='11878700']
[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435874437' post='11878536']
I got my first in hand look today. They look nice thin top line at address I always felt The i series would fit my game better but have always played the s series because of the look. Did not think I would be interested wrong I am tempted did not get to hit so we will have to see.
[/quote]
Are they using the same CTP in the cavity as in the S55's and Glide wedge's?
[/quote]yes

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435876666' post='11878716']
[quote name='Golfdoctor' timestamp='1435876494' post='11878700']
[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435874437' post='11878536']
I got my first in hand look today. They look nice thin top line at address I always felt The i series would fit my game better but have always played the s series because of the look. Did not think I would be interested wrong I am tempted did not get to hit so we will have to see.
[/quote]
Are they using the same CTP in the cavity as in the S55's and Glide wedge's?
[/quote]yes
[/quote]What CTP? I thought they were a pocket design.

[Ti-Père BBQ]

My gosh ! They look amazing. Love the new iron numbers. In the factory picture they look clean and sharp.

Love my G25 but gotta try these new ones.

Will they come with the stock CFS distance or the older CFS shaft?

[Nessism]

[quote name='Capitaine Haddock' timestamp='1435886844' post='11879546']

Will they come with the stock CFS distance or the older CFS shaft?
[/quote]

Same shaft, just the length is different. I'll be surprised if Ping plays the "long shaft" game with the i's.

I have nothing bad to say about these new clubs, but...when do the i25's go on sale?

[Golfdoctor]

[quote name='MJisGOAT' timestamp='1435886443' post='11879516']
[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435876666' post='11878716']
[quote name='Golfdoctor' timestamp='1435876494' post='11878700']
[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435874437' post='11878536']
I got my first in hand look today. They look nice thin top line at address I always felt The i series would fit my game better but have always played the s series because of the look. Did not think I would be interested wrong I am tempted did not get to hit so we will have to see.
[/quote]
Are they using the same CTP in the cavity as in the S55's and Glide wedge's?
[/quote]yes
[/quote]What CTP? I thought they were a pocket design.
[/quote]
They look to have a pocket design, but I've asked this same question before to the guys that have seen and said to hit the new iron, and no one responds.
I guess we'll have to wait and see our selves.

[Harry Longshanks]

[quote name='Saluki91' timestamp='1435836335' post='11874932']
It appears as though the blue is paint - not a badge.

If that is the case, then I am a happy man!
[/quote]

It's a badge.


[quote name='Golfdoctor' timestamp='1435896162' post='11880346']
They look to have a pocket design, but I've asked this same question before to the guys that have seen and said to hit the new iron, and no one responds.
I guess we'll have to wait and see our selves.
[/quote]

The CTP is an s55/i25/Glide style that is located deep in the pocket. Not easily visible.

[dunn]

[quote name='trustyrusty' timestamp='1435853705' post='11876588']
[quote name='Maffe64' timestamp='1435852593' post='11876446']
It seems like Westy's playing them at the French Open (European tour) today.
With a guy like Lee who changes his clubs rarely, these must be really good to be in play so early
[/quote]

or maybe really the same.
[/quote]exactly......these guys can change easily because new stuff is more similar than different to their previous set playing.....

[denvergolf]

[quote name='dunn' timestamp='1435899125' post='11880502']
[quote name='trustyrusty' timestamp='1435853705' post='11876588']
[quote name='Maffe64' timestamp='1435852593' post='11876446']
It seems like Westy's playing them at the French Open (European tour) today.
With a guy like Lee who changes his clubs rarely, these must be really good to be in play so early
[/quote]

or maybe really the same.
[/quote]exactly......these guys can change easily because new stuff is more similar than different to their previous set playing.....
[/quote]You have been on record saying people shouldn't change equipment, it doesn't help, it's the golfer not the equipment, etc. You are most likely 100% correct. But, this is an equipment forum, so I'm not sure why it's a negative for folks to like the new equipment regardless of how small the difference.

[tyro]

If Westwood stays with them, I think must have a good chance of being a solid iron. I will certainly try a set, probably with the Nippons. "Yellow dot / + 0.25" / D2 / Tour Velvet 58R +1 wrap" please!

[doubleagle2]

I was more interested in the top line. I remember seeing the Ctp just like the glide wedge did not see a pocket at least the way I remember it now

[threeputt]

[quote name='Golfdoctor' timestamp='1435896162' post='11880346']
[quote name='MJisGOAT' timestamp='1435886443' post='11879516']
[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435876666' post='11878716']
[quote name='Golfdoctor' timestamp='1435876494' post='11878700']
[quote name='doubleagle2' timestamp='1435874437' post='11878536']
I got my first in hand look today. They look nice thin top line at address I always felt The i series would fit my game better but have always played the s series because of the look. Did not think I would be interested wrong I am tempted did not get to hit so we will have to see.
[/quote]
Are they using the same CTP in the cavity as in the S55's and Glide wedge's?
[/quote]yes
[/quote]What CTP? I thought they were a pocket design.
[/quote]
They look to have a pocket design, but I've asked this same question before to the guys that have seen and said to hit the new iron, and no one responds.
I guess we'll have to wait and see our selves.
[/quote]I believe there is the same very soft CTP as in Glide.....

[chamgel2]

If what I've gathered from this thread is true I think these will replace my s55's. Just to make sure I have this right since its been a long thread to run through. Size is between the i25 and s55, but forgiveness more inline with the i25? More durable finish. Stock shaft options include the PX with a release date around 7/31?
I love my s55's, but I've gone from playing a couple times a week to a couple times a month and would love a little added forgiveness with similar size.

[doubleagle2]

[quote name='chamgel2' timestamp='1435965056' post='11884004']
If what I've gathered from this thread is true I think these will replace my s55's. Just to make sure I have this right since its been a long thread to run through. Size is between the i25 and s55, but forgiveness more inline with the i25? More durable finish. Stock shaft options include the PX with a release date around 7/31?
I love my s55's, but I've gone from playing a couple times a week to a couple times a month and would love a little added forgiveness with similar size.
[/quote]
All correct I was told pre-order will start 7/15 I should have them in hand by 7/31 so the fit clubs should be in store by mid July

[trustyrusty]

[quote name='denvergolf' timestamp='1435899731' post='11880524']
[quote name='dunn' timestamp='1435899125' post='11880502']
[quote name='trustyrusty' timestamp='1435853705' post='11876588']
[quote name='Maffe64' timestamp='1435852593' post='11876446']
It seems like Westy's playing them at the French Open (European tour) today.
With a guy like Lee who changes his clubs rarely, these must be really good to be in play so early
[/quote]

or maybe really the same.
[/quote]exactly......these guys can change easily because new stuff is more similar than different to their previous set playing.....
[/quote]You have been on record saying people shouldn't change equipment, it doesn't help, it's the golfer not the equipment, etc. You are most likely 100% correct. But, this is an equipment forum, so I'm not sure why it's a negative for folks to like the new equipment regardless of how small the difference.
[/quote]

I wasn't insinuating that people shouldn't like it or be excited about it; I certainly am looking forward to hitting them. I was replying to the fact that Westwood switching means they're likely a good product just as the I25 is but it doesn't mean they're a significant improvement just because he switched.

The visible tech is the same. Tungsten toe weight. Cavity back design. Progressive offset. Ctp. Etc. Even any reasonable guesses at new tech like variable face thickness would represent incremental improvement.

I'm really curious to see how these rate in the MPF vs the i25 and s55. If they stay in the 550 range maybe ping has completely different metrics in judging forgiveness.

[denvergolf]

[quote name='trustyrusty' timestamp='1435979620' post='11885246'][quote name='denvergolf' timestamp='1435899731' post='11880524']
[quote name='dunn' timestamp='1435899125' post='11880502']
[quote name='trustyrusty' timestamp='1435853705' post='11876588']
[quote name='Maffe64' timestamp='1435852593' post='11876446']
It seems like Westy's playing them at the French Open (European tour) today.
With a guy like Lee who changes his clubs rarely, these must be really good to be in play so early
[/quote]

or maybe really the same.
[/quote]exactly......these guys can change easily because new stuff is more similar than different to their previous set playing.....
[/quote]You have been on record saying people shouldn't change equipment, it doesn't help, it's the golfer not the equipment, etc. You are most likely 100% correct. But, this is an equipment forum, so I'm not sure why it's a negative for folks to like the new equipment regardless of how small the difference.
[/quote]

I wasn't insinuating that people shouldn't like it or be excited about it; I certainly am looking forward to hitting them. I was replying to the fact that Westwood switching means they're likely a good product just as the I25 is but it doesn't mean they're a significant improvement just because he switched.

The visible tech is the same. Tungsten toe weight. Cavity back design. Progressive offset. Ctp. Etc. Even any reasonable guesses at new tech like variable face thickness would represent incremental improvement.

I'm really curious to see how these rate in the MPF vs the i25 and s55. If they stay in the 550 range maybe ping has completely different metrics in judging forgiveness.[/quote]I didn't think I meant you, unless you have two different handles? My post probably sounded harsh and I really didn't mean it that way. I'm just surprised that people would think the ie1's would be anything but an evolution. Pretty much all the manufacturers have little room to play with when trying to make an iron look good and be forgiving, so many of the outputs look much the same.

[^m9]

I'm pumped for these irons, even if they are only minor tweaks to the i20/i25. Ping irons are top notch, so when they make little adjustments, it can actually mean a lot.

Some oems consistently regress in design/performance of their irons. The original xhot pros have better numbers than the x2h pros and the even newer xr pros. Look at TM, will they ever have irons that can hold a candle to the LTs/LT2s? Ping is guilty of this as well in certain models. I think that's why so many of us have a specific favorite PING iron model we hold in such high regard - older models like the i3/i5 that are medium in size, but have substantial forgiveness.

It's a challenging balancing act - getting lots of forgiveness in a compact, attractive package.

They hit the jackpot with the s55s, a compact player's iron with tons of forgiveness and performance. Iirc, that iron neared 600 in the mpf measurement. Pretty damn impressive for an iron that compact.

I'm not saying mpf is the end all be all measurement for determining the purchase of irons, but it's good to be informed on specific numbers; moi, vcog, etc.

Agreed with the above poster, I'm really hoping for an improvement in the mpf for these irons. Hoping for at least 600, and ideally 650+ for an i-model PING. If this doesn't turn out to be the case, why not just get the s55?

[Foreleft]

[quote name='^m9' timestamp='1435991258' post='11885764']
I'm pumped for these irons, even if they are only minor tweaks to the i20/i25. Ping irons are top notch, so when they make little adjustments, it can actually mean a lot.

Some oems consistently regress in design/performance of their irons. The original xhot pros have better numbers than the x2h pros and the even newer xr pros. Look at TM, will they ever have irons that can hold a candle to the LTs/LT2s? Ping is guilty of this as well in certain models. I think that's why so many of us have a specific favorite PING iron model we hold in such high regard - older models like the i3/i5 that are medium in size, but have substantial forgiveness.

It's a challenging balancing act - getting lots of forgiveness in a compact, attractive package.

They hit the jackpot with the s55s, a compact player's iron with tons of forgiveness and performance. Iirc, that iron neared 600 in the mpf measurement. Pretty damn impressive for an iron that compact.

I'm not saying mpf is the end all be all measurement for determining the purchase of irons, but it's good to be informed on specific numbers; moi, vcog, etc.

Agreed with the above poster, I'm really hoping for an improvement in the mpf for these irons. Hoping for at least 600, and ideally 650+ for an i-model PING. If this doesn't turn out to be the case, why not just get the s55?
[/quote]

The Maltby Playability Factor doesn't necessarily translate into real world differences for some players. Many would disagree that the S55 is equally or more forgiving than the i25, though the MPF would indicate that to be true. Those people would include the Ping engineering and design staff.

[tomba26]

Any idea on lofts on these irons yet?

[trustyrusty]

We agree. I was just responding BC my comment started the subthread and it wasn't intended to be snarky.

As far as the MPF and the s55 vs the i25 I don't know what to make of all that. I found the i25 much more forgiving personally than the s55 and I'm looking for something more forgiving than my ap2s so I hope these fit the bill.

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='trustyrusty' timestamp='1436015754' post='11886414']
We agree. I was just responding BC my comment started the subthread and it wasn't intended to be snarky.

As far as the MPF and the s55 vs the i25 I don't know what to make of all that. I found the i25 much more forgiving personally than the s55 and I'm looking for something more forgiving than my ap2s so I hope these fit the bill.
[/quote]The ap2 would statistically fit in between the i25 and s55. The ie1 are reported to be a stop gap measure between the i25 and s55 (at least from some of the posters in this thread). If that is indeed the case, the ap2's already offer the similarities you're looking for.

[trustyrusty]

[quote name='MJisGOAT' timestamp='1436016380' post='11886462']
[quote name='trustyrusty' timestamp='1436015754' post='11886414']
We agree. I was just responding BC my comment started the subthread and it wasn't intended to be snarky.

As far as the MPF and the s55 vs the i25 I don't know what to make of all that. I found the i25 much more forgiving personally than the s55 and I'm looking for something more forgiving than my ap2s so I hope these fit the bill.
[/quote]The ap2 would statistically fit in between the i25 and s55. The ie1 are reported to be a stop gap measure between the i25 and s55 (at least from some of the posters in this thread). If that is indeed the case, the ap2's already offer the similarities you're looking for.
[/quote]

Yeah I have a feeling I'm going to find the ie1 more forgiving. The soles appear to be wider but perhaps you're right. Ping may be aligning its irons - g series, I series and s series with titleists ap1, ap2 and cb\mb respectively. If that's the case I may wait until the new ap series is released in November and choose between the g30 ap1 and the i25 instead.

[MJisGOAT]

Went back and looked at some other photos, I think ping nailed the address position look of the ie1. These may be better than my initial glance impressions perceived them to be.

[Techgolfer1]

My pro says he will have the demo in around the 30th of July according to the Ping rep. He will have 7 new shafts to try which is awesome. The Ping Glide ES I ordered will be able to be placed around the 15th.

I am currently playing s55 irons. I have had them for 2 weeks and originally had a set the beginning of last year. They are pretty forgiving for a blade-like iron. I think I actually hit them better than my i25 irons honestly. I am looking forward to the release of these new i irons. I love the looks and love the blue. I currently have a navy blue hoofer. I am more concerned with playability however. The new ones will have to be very good to push these out. I haven't shot over par since I got them.