$2600 garage simulator build (and updates on using it for my game)

[goatbarn]

One of the creators/developers of ST has said that there is other things in the club speed calculation besides ball speed. I believe club selected, launch, spin, spin axis along with ball speed are used. I imagine a very well struck shot wouldn't have a -20* spin axis...thinking along those lines.

 

I don't think club selection has anything to do with it...sometimes I select clubs and sometimes I don't. Shots numbers are the same.

 

Club speed numbers are the same? I don't care about the ball numbers, those would obviously be different, for different clubs. You're saying if you hit a 7 iron, then a 3 wood, they may show the same CHS? Yo no comprende what "shot numbers" means in relation to club head speed numbers.

[somaplr]

No, what I'm saying is that if you just click on range session...the ST doesn't know what club you're hitting...it's measuring pure ball speed, angle, spin. Unless you tell it what club you're hitting, ST has no idea. If you are toggling thru clubs on a range session shot after shot...ST doesn't know what club you're hitting. You have to manual tell it what club you're using, if you chose too. If you are doing what I did in the pic posted, if basically for me to print off and know my average numbers.

 

The only way ST knows I'm hitting a 7 iron is if I tell it I'm hitting a 7 iron. That is only useful if you are uploading stats to your profile so you know that those 10 balls were with a 7 iron, for example.

 

The club head speed is an estimation based upon the ball numbers...the club you tell ST you've selected has nothing to do with the equation.

 

I say "shot numbers" as ball numbers - CHS on SkyTrak is a total estimation and should really be ignored.

[BamafaninKY]

Why is club head speed such a big issue? If ST does not measure it, for $100 you can get a radar that does. Problem solved.

[dg_1983]

Anyone in the UK got a SKYTRAK or similar setup?

 

What UK based products did you go for, regarding hitting mat and net?

[somaplr]

Why is club head speed such a big issue? If ST does not measure it, for $100 you can get a radar that does. Problem solved.

 

It's not. GC2 doesn't measure club speed either.

[GungHoGolf]

Good video comparing GC2 and SkyTrak side-by-side on same shots. Makes me feel pretty good about my SkyTrak investment.

 

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[BamafaninKY]

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

[GungHoGolf]

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

No complaints here. Only thing with ST is the occasional no read.

[Scottie68]

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

My most consistent shot on the course is from 80 yards (usually within +/-2 yards). First thing I did was tested this shot with my ST, and it was right on as far as carry distance (but also added a few yards of roll). I have found with this one test distance, that the ST produces a very accurate carry number, and other distances appear to be accurate as far as carry as well. Just watch for the total, which includes roll, as this will obviously be course condition dependent.

[somaplr]

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

120 and in you'll be within 2-3 yards of accuracy typically on shorter shots. Over a 10 shot average you'll have a maybe less of dispersion than that on average and ball speed will be really close to GC2. The machines have different algorithms so distance is never going to be exact. This isn't scientific, but there is probably a shot or two out of ten that would differ from GC2 considerably on longer irons - maybe like 7-10 yards carry and usually shorter. For the most part shots over 200 yards are within 5 yards of GC2. Both are calculations. Shot shape will be almost identical.

 

The video the guy did he said he had the SkyTrak above the mat a few inches - that's kind of a no-no in my opinion. You want it to be on the balls surface for optimal readings.

[butette]

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

120 and in you'll be within 2-3 yards of accuracy typically on shorter shots. Over a 10 shot average you'll have a maybe less of dispersion than that on average and ball speed will be really close to GC2. The machines have different algorithms so distance is never going to be exact. This isn't scientific, but there is probably a shot or two out of ten that would differ from GC2 considerably on longer irons - maybe like 7-10 yards carry and usually shorter. For the most part shots over 200 yards are within 5 yards of GC2. Both are calculations. Shot shape will be almost identical.

 

The video the guy did he said he had the SkyTrak above the mat a few inches - that's kind of a no-no in my opinion. You want it to be on the balls surface for optimal readings.

 

Have you found much difference when hitting iron if you place the ball on the red dot, vs slightly (1/4 to 1/2 in) behind it or slightly in front of it and how would it effect the capture window ?

[teamacacia]

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

I have been testing carry distances from my 58* wedge up to my 6i (174 avg carry) and have found them to be right where I see on the course. I wish I could comment more about 30-90 yard shots but I haven't tried them on the skytrak yet, nor would I say that I have hit enough over the winter to be able to comment about their correlation. I feel like my driver is spot on for carry and roll out for the most part. 3w off the deck has less carry than I anticipated, but I have to admit that I wouldn't be able to tell you what I'd exactly expect on the course. I'm hoping to gap my long irons and hybrids this weekend as the temp is supposed to be decent Saturday.

 

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

120 and in you'll be within 2-3 yards of accuracy typically on shorter shots. Over a 10 shot average you'll have a maybe less of dispersion than that on average and ball speed will be really close to GC2. The machines have different algorithms so distance is never going to be exact. This isn't scientific, but there is probably a shot or two out of ten that would differ from GC2 considerably on longer irons - maybe like 7-10 yards carry and usually shorter. For the most part shots over 200 yards are within 5 yards of GC2. Both are calculations. Shot shape will be almost identical.

 

The video the guy did he said he had the SkyTrak above the mat a few inches - that's kind of a no-no in my opinion. You want it to be on the balls surface for optimal readings.

 

Have you found much difference when hitting iron if you place the ball on the red dot, vs slightly (1/4 to 1/2 in) behind it or slightly in front of it and how would it effect the capture window ?

 

Lately, I've been putting everything right on the dot and have had zero issues with capturing every shot that I've hit. I don't think the distance you are talking about are noticeable. Moving it forward or back 1-2" may be a different thing altogether.

I will say that I tried the chrome soft yellow/black truvis balls and could not get it to read about 5 shots in a row so went back to plain white golf balls. I'm not sure if the Truvis tech makes it hard for the camera to read the spin or what, but they haven't worked for me.

[noahsparrow]

I like the review and was thinking about getting a skytrak or one of the cheaper monitors for a while now and this made my decision easier.

[butette]

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

I have been testing carry distances from my 58* wedge up to my 6i (174 avg carry) and have found them to be right where I see on the course. I wish I could comment more about 30-90 yard shots but I haven't tried them on the skytrak yet, nor would I say that I have hit enough over the winter to be able to comment about their correlation. I feel like my driver is spot on for carry and roll out for the most part. 3w off the deck has less carry than I anticipated, but I have to admit that I wouldn't be able to tell you what I'd exactly expect on the course. I'm hoping to gap my long irons and hybrids this weekend as the temp is supposed to be decent Saturday.

 

Looks like distance data varies a fair amount, especially with the longer clubs. For Skytrak (which I hope to purchase soon), I am looking for very accurate carry numbers from 120 or so in, and outside of 150 or so that I'm looking for shot shape.

 

How do people feel Skytrak performs on distance accuracy from 120 yards and closer, and with shot shape from 150 yards and out?

 

120 and in you'll be within 2-3 yards of accuracy typically on shorter shots. Over a 10 shot average you'll have a maybe less of dispersion than that on average and ball speed will be really close to GC2. The machines have different algorithms so distance is never going to be exact. This isn't scientific, but there is probably a shot or two out of ten that would differ from GC2 considerably on longer irons - maybe like 7-10 yards carry and usually shorter. For the most part shots over 200 yards are within 5 yards of GC2. Both are calculations. Shot shape will be almost identical.

 

The video the guy did he said he had the SkyTrak above the mat a few inches - that's kind of a no-no in my opinion. You want it to be on the balls surface for optimal readings.

 

Have you found much difference when hitting iron if you place the ball on the red dot, vs slightly (1/4 to 1/2 in) behind it or slightly in front of it and how would it effect the capture window ?

 

Lately, I've been putting everything right on the dot and have had zero issues with capturing every shot that I've hit. I don't think the distance you are talking about are noticeable. Moving it forward or back 1-2" may be a different thing altogether.

I will say that I tried the chrome soft yellow/black truvis balls and could not get it to read about 5 shots in a row so went back to plain white golf balls. I'm not sure if the Truvis tech makes it hard for the camera to read the spin or what, but they haven't worked for me.

 

Skytrak says NOT to use yellow ball, so that may be why your test with yellow/black truvis did not work very well.

[teamacacia]

Skytrak says NOT to use yellow ball, so that may be why your test with yellow/black truvis did not work very well.

 

Ahh, some how I missed that. Thanks for the info. I wonder about the red/white chromesofts?

 

I'd like to do some comparisons between different golf balls on the ST if I can get the time.

[scopek]

I'm moving into a new house with a 4 car garage. My wife has agreed that I can partition off part of the garage to make my golf studio!!! :yahoo: I'm going to have my contractor put up dry wall and insulation. Does anyone have any thoughts on the minimum dimensions for the depth and width that I should use? I need to make it large enough to do full swings, but I need to use as little space as possible to do this.

[goatbarn]

I'm moving into a new house with a 4 car garage. My wife has agreed that I can partition off part of the garage to make my gold studio!!! :yahoo: Does anyone have any thoughts on the minimum dimensions for the depth and width that I should use? I need to make it large enough to do full swings, but I need to use as little space as possible to do this.

 

You need 6-7' from ball to wall behind you. And 6-7' from ball to net/ball to wall opposite net. That puts minimum space at 10' x 15'. Little extra slack in there so you're not hitting a ball immediately next to a wall.

 

If you hit off center, you don't need a symmetric distance from ball to opposite wall from the ball you stand on. If you need to hit into the center of the net/screen (aesthetics/right-left handed players), you'll need double width, making it at least 20' x 15'.

 

I made it work for me in my old single car garage with a 10' x 12' space.

[jut111]

Dimensions are going to be dependent on what you're trying to do and with what equipment. I'm assuming your talking Skytrak so no worries on ball flight requirements. If you're thinking radar based, you're going to need more room.

 

If you're looking to project on to an impact screen you'll need more room then if you're going to use a TV or monitor off to the side etc....

[scopek]

Dimensions are going to be dependent on what you're trying to do and with what equipment. I'm assuming your talking Skytrak so no worries on ball flight requirements. If you're thinking radar based, you're going to need more room.

 

If you're looking to project on to an impact screen you'll need more room then if you're going to use a TV or monitor off to the side etc....

 

Thanks. I'm still trying to figure out what it's going to look like. For right now, I'm just going to hit into a net. But my long-term goal is to have something like Skytrak set up so I want to make sure I don't make it too small where I can't add equipment later on. Can you use Skytrak in either a computer screen off to the side or projected on a screen? I'd eventually like it projected where I'm hitting. I'm just starting to learn about the options....

[sethdavidsdad]

Dimensions are going to be dependent on what you're trying to do and with what equipment. I'm assuming your talking Skytrak so no worries on ball flight requirements. If you're thinking radar based, you're going to need more room.

 

If you're looking to project on to an impact screen you'll need more room then if you're going to use a TV or monitor off to the side etc....

 

Thanks. I'm still trying to figure out what it's going to look like. For right now, I'm just going to hit into a net. But my long-term goal is to have something like Skytrak set up so I want to make sure I don't make it too small where I can't add equipment later on. Can you use Skytrak in either a computer screen off to the side or projected on a screen? I'd eventually like it projected where I'm hitting. I'm just starting to learn about the options....

either way will work. I use mine with a ipad off to the side. Hope to eventually do impact screen and projector

[scopek]

Next purchase will be the impact screen. I'll probably go with the PR-20 impact netting from West Coast Netting which will probably cost around $200.

 

 

 

What are the dimensions for this? Are you hitting inside this or just into it?

[EBannermanS]

Damn, that's impressive. Nice work.

[bradski]

Dimensions are going to be dependent on what you're trying to do and with what equipment. I'm assuming your talking Skytrak so no worries on ball flight requirements. If you're thinking radar based, you're going to need more room.

 

If you're looking to project on to an impact screen you'll need more room then if you're going to use a TV or monitor off to the side etc....

 

Thanks. I'm still trying to figure out what it's going to look like. For right now, I'm just going to hit into a net. But my long-term goal is to have something like Skytrak set up so I want to make sure I don't make it too small where I can't add equipment later on. Can you use Skytrak in either a computer screen off to the side or projected on a screen? I'd eventually like it projected where I'm hitting. I'm just starting to learn about the options....

 

I have a screen and projector. most of the time I just use the computer monitor. if i did it again I might just do an ipad and netting from west coast netting. They would save a ton of money.

[dw1970]

With the March release of flightscope mevo - hoping maybe this may mean reduction in skytrak even if only short term?

[GungHoGolf]

With the March release of flightscope mevo - hoping maybe this may mean reduction in skytrak even if only short term?

 

Mevo looks like a far cry from SkyTrak. No mention of HLA or sidespin measurements, just VLA and total spin. Not sure about you, but start line and side spin are the two things I care most about when practicing, and essential for sim play. See data screenshots at http://flightscopemevo.com/

[dw1970]

With the March release of flightscope mevo - hoping maybe this may mean reduction in skytrak even if only short term?

 

Mevo looks like a far cry from SkyTrak. No mention of HLA or sidespin measurements, just VLA and total spin. Not sure about you, but start line and side spin are the two things I care most about when practicing, and essential for sim play. See data screenshots at http://flightscopemevo.com/

 

Totally agree however with flightscope dropping down into lower end of market (for them anyway compared to their normal stuff) was hoping skytrak might give a gentle nudge on price to try and get some of the people looking for more 'reasonable' price launch monitors as I imagine flightscope may promote hard?

[msg]

It's perfect with my net return. I might add a screen later but for now, the ball returns to the original spot so the mat works well for that purpose.

 

I am planning on doing the same set up as yours. When you practice your wedges, specially the lob wedge, do you move closer to the net or no? I am worried that I might hit my basement ceiling if I am too far from the net.

[q-school]

do any of you guys worry about shanks? Just doesn't happen indoors? Trying to find the right space but worried about collateral damage

[msg]

do any of you guys worry about shanks? Just doesn't happen indoors? Trying to find the right space but worried about collateral damage

 

I play indoors every winter, every weekend. I am pretty decent and I have not shanked a golf ball since I started this every winter some two years ago. But if you have one at home, you will use it more often, chances are, you will shank one of your shots. On the other hand, my buddies, I have seen them shank a few in the last two years. Good thing is the place we play at, has nets on the side and on the ceiling but I have seen some scary ricochet from their mishits. If you can put protection, by all means put them.

[bongta029]

It's perfect with my net return. I might add a screen later but for now, the ball returns to the original spot so the mat works well for that purpose.

 

I am planning on doing the same set up as yours. When you practice your wedges, specially the lob wedge, do you move closer to the net or no? I am worried that I might hit my basement ceiling if I am too far from the net.

I can do a flop shot with 60 degree wedge and just hit the top part of the net. I keep my ball position same as my other shots. So I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless your flip shot is extremely high.