REVIEW: Mitsubishi TENSEI CK Pro White Prototype vs. KuroKage Silver TiNi

[KemperPro]

I have to ask. I have been a long time Diamana fan. I have loved the OG white, the D+, the W series, and more. Obviously the stiff tip, stiff mid, soft butt works for me. However, I'm intrigued by the Tensei and also the Kuro Kage. How does the feel differ in this shaft versus say the W series or the Whiteboard? How about the Kuro Kage?

 

I would say Tensei Pro White is smoother feeling than OG whiteboard for sure. As for Kuro Kage, it definitely has a smoother and less rigid butt than KKXT, but retains that firm and very controlled feeling through impact. Both profiles retain great feel, but Tensei Pro White spins less.

 

From my experience and from what I've seen on another golf shaft website, the whiteboard and kuro kage XT are pretty similar. I think as far as spin the kuro kage XT and tensei pro white would pretty similar for many.

 

For me, on Trackman, Tensei Pro White vs Kuro Kage XT, both 70tx, both tipped the same at the same playing length, in the same head, with the swingweight modified to be identical, showed about 400-500 rpm less spin out of Tensei Pro White. I agree that may be similar, but it's certainly enough to make a difference

[jph4387]

Thanks for the help. So it's a whiteboard with smoother feel? If so I'm in. I love the whiteboard but right now I'm addicted to the graphite design feel at the cost of performance. This may be the ticket.

[KemperPro]

Thanks for the help. So it's a whiteboard with smoother feel? If so I'm in. I love the whiteboard but right now I'm addicted to the graphite design feel at the cost of performance. This may be the ticket.

 

Yes, I would say whiteboard with smoother feel, and because of the boron tip, even a shade less spin.

[BigHook25]

I have to ask. I have been a long time Diamana fan. I have loved the OG white, the D+, the W series, and more. Obviously the stiff tip, stiff mid, soft butt works for me. However, I'm intrigued by the Tensei and also the Kuro Kage. How does the feel differ in this shaft versus say the W series or the Whiteboard? How about the Kuro Kage?

 

I would say Tensei Pro White is smoother feeling than OG whiteboard for sure. As for Kuro Kage, it definitely has a smoother and less rigid butt than KKXT, but retains that firm and very controlled feeling through impact. Both profiles retain great feel, but Tensei Pro White spins less.

 

From my experience and from what I've seen on another golf shaft website, the whiteboard and kuro kage XT are pretty similar. I think as far as spin the kuro kage XT and tensei pro white would pretty similar for many.

 

For me, on Trackman, Tensei Pro White vs Kuro Kage XT, both 70tx, both tipped the same at the same playing length, in the same head, with the swingweight modified to be identical, showed about 400-500 rpm less spin out of Tensei Pro White. I agree that may be similar, but it's certainly enough to make a difference

 

Wow, definitely low spin then. One of the more recent shafts I've hit with very low spin was the Hzrdus black. Wonder if the Tensei pro white is supposed to compete with that.

[KemperPro]

I have to ask. I have been a long time Diamana fan. I have loved the OG white, the D+, the W series, and more. Obviously the stiff tip, stiff mid, soft butt works for me. However, I'm intrigued by the Tensei and also the Kuro Kage. How does the feel differ in this shaft versus say the W series or the Whiteboard? How about the Kuro Kage?

 

I would say Tensei Pro White is smoother feeling than OG whiteboard for sure. As for Kuro Kage, it definitely has a smoother and less rigid butt than KKXT, but retains that firm and very controlled feeling through impact. Both profiles retain great feel, but Tensei Pro White spins less.

 

From my experience and from what I've seen on another golf shaft website, the whiteboard and kuro kage XT are pretty similar. I think as far as spin the kuro kage XT and tensei pro white would pretty similar for many.

 

For me, on Trackman, Tensei Pro White vs Kuro Kage XT, both 70tx, both tipped the same at the same playing length, in the same head, with the swingweight modified to be identical, showed about 400-500 rpm less spin out of Tensei Pro White. I agree that may be similar, but it's certainly enough to make a difference

 

Wow, definitely low spin then. One of the more recent shafts I've hit with very low spin was the Hzrdus black. Wonder if the Tensei pro white is supposed to compete with that.

 

HZRDUS Black was the second lowest spin shaft for me on Trackman. The Tensei White was a couple hundred rpm lower still, but the HZRDUS brought my launch angle down over a degree in the process, which is something I didn't want. I was still able to retain a decent launch angle AND drop my spin lower than anything else with the Tensei, which is precisely what I was hoping for. I also hit the Tensei Pro Blue pretty well but the dispersion wasn't as tight as the white model and the spin was more like Kuro Kage XT.

[campion]

I have to ask. I have been a long time Diamana fan. I have loved the OG white, the D+, the W series, and more. Obviously the stiff tip, stiff mid, soft butt works for me. However, I'm intrigued by the Tensei and also the Kuro Kage. How does the feel differ in this shaft versus say the W series or the Whiteboard? How about the Kuro Kage?

 

I would say Tensei Pro White is smoother feeling than OG whiteboard for sure. As for Kuro Kage, it definitely has a smoother and less rigid butt than KKXT, but retains that firm and very controlled feeling through impact. Both profiles retain great feel, but Tensei Pro White spins less.

 

From my experience and from what I've seen on another golf shaft website, the whiteboard and kuro kage XT are pretty similar. I think as far as spin the kuro kage XT and tensei pro white would pretty similar for many.

 

For me, on Trackman, Tensei Pro White vs Kuro Kage XT, both 70tx, both tipped the same at the same playing length, in the same head, with the swingweight modified to be identical, showed about 400-500 rpm less spin out of Tensei Pro White. I agree that may be similar, but it's certainly enough to make a difference

 

How much weight did you have to add over the KKXT? Is the white counterbalance or is it just a different balance point?

[KemperPro]

I have to ask. I have been a long time Diamana fan. I have loved the OG white, the D+, the W series, and more. Obviously the stiff tip, stiff mid, soft butt works for me. However, I'm intrigued by the Tensei and also the Kuro Kage. How does the feel differ in this shaft versus say the W series or the Whiteboard? How about the Kuro Kage?

 

I would say Tensei Pro White is smoother feeling than OG whiteboard for sure. As for Kuro Kage, it definitely has a smoother and less rigid butt than KKXT, but retains that firm and very controlled feeling through impact. Both profiles retain great feel, but Tensei Pro White spins less.

 

From my experience and from what I've seen on another golf shaft website, the whiteboard and kuro kage XT are pretty similar. I think as far as spin the kuro kage XT and tensei pro white would pretty similar for many.

 

For me, on Trackman, Tensei Pro White vs Kuro Kage XT, both 70tx, both tipped the same at the same playing length, in the same head, with the swingweight modified to be identical, showed about 400-500 rpm less spin out of Tensei Pro White. I agree that may be similar, but it's certainly enough to make a difference

 

How much weight did you have to add over the KKXT? Is the white counterbalance or is it just a different balance point?

 

I don't recall how much weight difference it was to match swingweight. The tester was changing them and it was months ago. The white isn't cb, the orange is.

[KemperPro]

Here are some more pics of the Tensei Orange as new weights hit the Tour.

[scratchswinger]

What's up with all those whites? 60TX?

[pdaero]

What's up with all those whites? 60TX?

 

I believe all the X flex CK Pro shafts are listed as TX.

[scratchswinger]

What's up with all those whites? 60TX?

 

I believe all the X flex CK Pro shafts are listed as TX.

 

60TX white en route to test against my Blue TX thanks to my good friend KP.

[DTown3011]

I have a Diamana BF (Blue Force, 4th generation Blueboard) 60x coming to test against the Tensei! The Blueboard bend profile has always worked well for me (Kai'li was a shaft I played for a few years) so interested to test this one out.

[scratchswinger]

I have a Diamana BF (Blue Force, 4th generation Blueboard) 60x coming to test against the Tensei! The Blueboard bend profile has always worked well for me (Kai'li was a shaft I played for a few years) so interested to test this one out.

 

I tested that shaft against the 60TX Tensei Blue on Trackman.... It spun quite a bit more on misshits but was really long good for good. I could not tell a difference in feel between the two but I admittedly have a hard time telling much difference in shafts feel other than flex and weight.

[KemperPro]

Justin Rose put it in play at the Olympics.

[J13]

NOt surprised I"m hearing good things. KP you hit the orange yet? Wonder if it would be a good option for heads like the Ping G LS being as they use CB shafts in their heads.

[KemperPro]

NOt surprised I"m hearing good things. KP you hit the orange yet? Wonder if it would be a good option for heads like the Ping G LS being as they use CB shafts in their heads.

 

I have hit the Version 1 Orange proto. The counterbalance is very pronounced, but I really like it actually. One note I'd like to make is that all the Tensei Orange are screened 60TX, but in reality they are 75 grams. There is no 60 gram version currently. I'll be hitting the Trackman over the next few days with several profiles. Maybe I'll do a review if anyone is interested.

[J13]

NOt surprised I"m hearing good things. KP you hit the orange yet? Wonder if it would be a good option for heads like the Ping G LS being as they use CB shafts in their heads.

 

I have hit the Version 1 Orange proto. The counterbalance is very pronounced, but I really like it actually. One note I'd like to make is that all the Tensei Orange are screened 60TX, but in reality they are 75 grams. There is no 60 gram version currently. I'll be hitting the Trackman over the next few days with several profiles. Maybe I'll do a review if anyone is interested.

 

I'd be interested in that.

[scratchswinger]

NOt surprised I"m hearing good things. KP you hit the orange yet? Wonder if it would be a good option for heads like the Ping G LS being as they use CB shafts in their heads.

 

I have hit the Version 1 Orange proto. The counterbalance is very pronounced, but I really like it actually. One note I'd like to make is that all the Tensei Orange are screened 60TX, but in reality they are 75 grams. There is no 60 gram version currently. I'll be hitting the Trackman over the next few days with several profiles. Maybe I'll do a review if anyone is interested.

 

I'd be interested in that.

 

Last year the mods and Easyyy gave me the authority to speak for the entire forum and yes we are interested.

[denvergolf]

NOt surprised I"m hearing good things. KP you hit the orange yet? Wonder if it would be a good option for heads like the Ping G LS being as they use CB shafts in their heads.

 

I have hit the Version 1 Orange proto. The counterbalance is very pronounced, but I really like it actually. One note I'd like to make is that all the Tensei Orange are screened 60TX, but in reality they are 75 grams. There is no 60 gram version currently. I'll be hitting the Trackman over the next few days with several profiles. Maybe I'll do a review if anyone is interested.

 

I'd be interested in that.

 

Last year the mods and Easyyy gave me the authority to speak for the entire forum and yes we are interested.

That must have been after they had a mild stroke :)

[KemperPro]

NOt surprised I"m hearing good things. KP you hit the orange yet? Wonder if it would be a good option for heads like the Ping G LS being as they use CB shafts in their heads.

 

I have hit the Version 1 Orange proto. The counterbalance is very pronounced, but I really like it actually. One note I'd like to make is that all the Tensei Orange are screened 60TX, but in reality they are 75 grams. There is no 60 gram version currently. I'll be hitting the Trackman over the next few days with several profiles. Maybe I'll do a review if anyone is interested.

 

I'd be interested in that.

 

Last year the mods and Easyyy gave me the authority to speak for the entire forum and yes we are interested.

 

Ok sounds good. I'll collect some thoughts of myself and the guys I'll be hitting with and share with the forum.

[edryer3]

Currently game the Oban Black 65g in the 05 flex. After reading the Tensi white seems really good. Any comparison of the Oban Black vs the pro white?

[DTown3011]

Currently game the Oban Black 65g in the 05 flex. After reading the Tensi white seems really good. Any comparison of the Oban Black vs the pro white?

 

I've never hit anything from Oban except the Kiyoshi line so unfortunately no comparison.

[rpaige88]

I have a Diamana BF (Blue Force, 4th generation Blueboard) 60x coming to test against the Tensei! The Blueboard bend profile has always worked well for me (Kai'li was a shaft I played for a few years) so interested to test this one out.

 

Nice! I love the b-series blueboard but haven't had the chance to hit the CK/CK Pro Blue yet. The new BF-series sounds nice and would love to know how to compares to other blueboards.

[J13]

NOt surprised I"m hearing good things. KP you hit the orange yet? Wonder if it would be a good option for heads like the Ping G LS being as they use CB shafts in their heads.

 

I have hit the Version 1 Orange proto. The counterbalance is very pronounced, but I really like it actually. One note I'd like to make is that all the Tensei Orange are screened 60TX, but in reality they are 75 grams. There is no 60 gram version currently. I'll be hitting the Trackman over the next few days with several profiles. Maybe I'll do a review if anyone is interested.

 

I'd be interested in that.

 

Last year the mods and Easyyy gave me the authority to speak for the entire forum and yes we are interested.

 

Just make sure to check everyones hcp to see if they are allowed to chime in on this discussion ;D

[Peanut191]

Currently game the Oban Black 65g in the 05 flex. After reading the Tensi white seems really good. Any comparison of the Oban Black vs the pro white?

 

I've never hit anything from Oban except the Kiyoshi line so unfortunately no comparison.

 

I believe the Black he is referring to is the Kiyoshi Black.

[KemperPro]

I have a Diamana BF (Blue Force, 4th generation Blueboard) 60x coming to test against the Tensei! The Blueboard bend profile has always worked well for me (Kai'li was a shaft I played for a few years) so interested to test this one out.

 

Nice! I love the b-series blueboard but haven't had the chance to hit the CK/CK Pro Blue yet. The new BF-series sounds nice and would love to know how to compares to other blueboards.

 

Blue Force feels like old school blue board with a bit more stable tip section. I think it's the closest of all the generations to feeling most like original BB in terms of being smooth, yet stable.

[KemperPro]

Looking forward to comparing these to Tensei Pro White on the Trackman Monday. Info to follow.

[J13]

You know the torque values for those?

[KemperPro]

You know the torque values for those?

 

I don't. The orange profile is in prototype phase right now. It won't be a finished profile until next summer.

[J13]

Gotcha.