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Go Epic and save money.....what are you really going to gain? A yard or two at best?....

 

If that is a yard or two ahead of whoever I am playing with count me in.

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Michael Newton Golf

 

The Callaway Rogue Sub Zero Driver

 

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PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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Well, Michael Newton just released this sub zero comparison:

 

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Michael newton seems to have a pretty decent swing and good ball speeds, however i noticed he has the worst Smash factor even though he middles a ton of his drives....I doubt he gets more than 1.46 with the rogue vs some other Wrxers who routinely get 1.56 and more !!!!!

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Well, Michael Newton just released this sub zero comparison:

 

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Michael newton seems to have a pretty decent swing and good ball speeds, however i noticed he has the worst Smash factor even though he middles a ton of his drives....I doubt he gets more than 1.46 with the rogue vs some other Wrxers who routinely get 1.56 and more !!!!!

 

Yes, the smash factors vary much between different testers...

...thus it seems, that a direct comparison between two clubs is more informative, than a single review.

 

However, the more reviews, the more information:

 

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http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1588322-callaway-rogue-sz-vs-taylormade-m3-440/

 

 

 

 

Michael Newton Golf

 

Callaway Rogue SZ VS TaylorMade M3 440

 

 

 

 

And the WINNER IS.........................

DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0 / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV Raw White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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Interesting that the F8+ Aldila shaft was 1/2" longer than the Rogue SZ with the Evenflow blue.

The F8+ standard is 45"...........the standard Rogue is 45.5"....why was the Rogue at 44.5"?

 

Rogue @45.5" Swingweight is D4.... 1" less @ 44.5" and SW will be close to C8!

Was the Rogue hotmelted as it had standard weights in the sole?

DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0 / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV Raw White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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Interesting that the F8+ Aldila shaft was 1/2" longer than the Rogue SZ with the Evenflow blue.

The F8+ standard is 45"...........the standard Rogue is 45.5"....why was the Rogue at 44.5"?

 

Rogue @45.5" Swingweight is D4.... 1" less @ 44.5" and SW will be close to C8!

Was the Rogue hotmelted as it had standard weights in the sole?

 

I haven't seen any official information so far, that the Rogue Sub Zero has a 45.5" standard length...

 

...and the tester said, that the shafts he used worked best for him.

 

That the dispersion of the F8+ was tighter despite the longer shaft, is interesting...

 

...thus, one could guess, that it is possible, to put an even longer shaft in the F8+, before the dispersion gets as big, as with the Rogue in conjunction with the shorter shaft.

 

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Because of the different shafts, and different shaft properties, like weight distribution etc., the unknown real weight of the heads etc. it is hard to judge what the real swingweight was,

and whether he is someone where swingweight matters, or not.

 

Maybe he is a MOI sensitive guy?

 

How can you know the MOI?

 

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It is what it is - additional information.

 

Everyone has to be fitted individually for those drivers, anyway.

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The Callaway web page lists the standard length at 45.5 for the Rogue..odd that it was only 44.5 in the test.

DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0 / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV Raw White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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The Callaway web page lists the standard length at 45.5 for the Rogue..odd that it was only 44.5 in the test.

 

Could you please provide the link?

 

Or do you maybe mix the standard Rogue, with the Rogue Sub Zero?

 

However, I don't think, that a even longer shaft would have helped the Rogue SZ dispersion wise...

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The Callaway web page lists the standard length at 45.5 for the Rogue..odd that it was only 44.5 in the test.

 

Could you please provide the link?

 

Or do you maybe mix the standard Rogue, with the Rogue Sub Zero?

 

However, I don't think, that a even longer shaft would have helped the Rogue SZ dispersion wise...

 

 

View Specs........

 

http://www.callawaygolf.com/golf-clubs/drivers/drivers-2018-rogue-sz.html

 

 

DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0 / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV Raw White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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http://www.golfwrx.c...lormade-m3-440/

 

 

 

 

Michael Newton Golf

 

Callaway Rogue SZ VS TaylorMade M3 440

 

 

 

 

And the WINNER IS.........................

 

Here is a comparison CW Rogue SZ vs Cobra F8+

 

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...would you have lost your bet in this case? :derisive:

 

This vid demonstrates the limits of testing, even head to head, because no one at the tester’s skill level can put the same swing on 10 balls. Sample size is anecdotal at best. Five balls each and hardly any of them hit in the high middle of the face, where spin drops and distance increases. He swings hard but he catches a lot of shots too low on the face, jumping up the spin.

 

Have to say, the Rogue sounds fantastic. Listened to it in Newton’s review as well and liked it. Sound is the main thing these reviews are good for to me. The data is too variable from swing to swing to draw substantive conclusions. Clearly, both of these drivers are very nice and it is all about what the player prefers.

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One should not base what the sound of these drivers is on these videos. The confines of these hitting studios is like an echo chamber and causes the sound to be much different than what it is outside in the open.

DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0 / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV Raw White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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http://www.golfwrx.c...lormade-m3-440/

 

 

 

 

Michael Newton Golf

 

Callaway Rogue SZ VS TaylorMade M3 440

 

 

 

 

And the WINNER IS.........................

 

Here is a comparison CW Rogue SZ vs Cobra F8+

 

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[/media]

 

...would you have lost your bet in this case? :derisive:

 

This vid demonstrates the limits of testing, even head to head, because no one at the tester's skill level can put the same swing on 10 balls. Sample size is anecdotal at best. Five balls each and hardly any of them hit in the high middle of the face, where spin drops and distance increases. He swings hard but he catches a lot of shots too low on the face, jumping up the spin.

 

Have to say, the Rogue sounds fantastic. Listened to it in Newton's review as well and liked it. Sound is the main thing these reviews are good for to me. The data is too variable from swing to swing to draw substantive conclusions. Clearly, both of these drivers are very nice and it is all about what the player prefers.

 

 

 

In comparison to other testers he was not too bad with his strike locations.

At least one shot can be considered as close to perfect.

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One should not base what the sound of these drivers is on these videos. The confines of these hitting studios is like an echo chamber and causes the sound to be much different than what it is outside in the open.

 

Outside may lessen the harshness if a driver sounds harsh, but in my experience, a driver that sounds loud and tinny inside will sound loud and tinny outside. It mignt sound a little better outside, but it won’t sound good. I owned a Ping G. Great driver, and I could live with the sound. But it never sounded good indoors and it was the same on the course. May be a slight improvement taking a really loud driver outside, but I have not found it changes from really bad to great.

 

If a driver sounds good indoors, such as the G400 or Rogue, it will also sound good outdoors. Certainly have not seen one sound great inside and worse outside. I can tell when I hear them if I am interested. The videos capture sound well IMO. A really loud driver is annoying to me. It is my knock on a lot of Maltby drivers. They leave a ringing in my ears.

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Edel T grind 54 w/Nippon 125 wedge shaft

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Santa Shiels has his review up on YouTube for the standard Rogue driver.

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Shiels Rogue SZ Driver Full Review

 

 

 

DRIVERS (TBD):  PXG BLACK OPS TOUR 8*,  BLACK OPS TOUR 10.5*,  BLACK OPS STD 8*;  Vanquish 4TX / Diamana WB 53x / GD AD-VF 5s / Ventus TR Black 5x / HZRDUS G4 Black 6.0 / Kaili White, Blue, Red 60x / Tensei AV Raw White/Blue 65x / Diamana S+ 60x

FAIRWAYS:  TAYLORMADE STEALTH 2+ FAIRWAYS/HYBRIDS:  R13.5( FW Rocket TI), 12.8*, Kaili White/Blue 70X;  #3 FW, 15.0*, Kaili Blue 70X/Red 75X;  #4 FW TI, 16.6*, Kaili White 70TX;  #6 FW TI, 20.3*, Kaili White 80TX;  #3 HY 19.5*, Kaili White 90TX; #4 HY 22*, Kaili White 90X

PXG GEN5 0311X, Black Label Elite, 22*, Accra TZFive, 105DI, M5

PXG 0317T, Xtreme Dark, 4 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG  GEN0311XP, Double Black, 4 - LW, LAGP L Series, X

TAYLORMADE P7TW, 5 - GW, LAGP L Series, X

PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy II Milled Wedges, Xtreme Dark, 54*/10, 56*/10, 58*/10, 62*/10; // LAGP L Series, S

SCOTTY CAMERON CONCEPT X 7.2 LTD,  LAGOLF P 135g shaft // LAGOLF BEL-AIR X Forged Carbon Putter // TOULON GARAGE - Austin Custom Rose Gold // STEWART GOLF Q Follow Electric Cart..Carbon // SKYCADDIE SX550 // COBALT Q6 Slope

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I played 18 holes with both the Epic and Rogue in the bag, as well as the M4.

 

Not much difference between the 2 Callaways.

 

M4 was 10+ yards further.

 

Looking at all those reviews, there seems to be no big difference between drivers...

 

...a proper fitting makes the difference.

 

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I personally like the design of the Rogue, but I would miss the adjustability of my other drivers.

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