Iron shaft query

[mizuno player]

I've been asking a lot of questions lately about different shafts. I currently play PX 6.5 SS1. I love everything about them. Except. I had surgery on my left elbow due to severe tendonitis several years ago and it has coml back with the PX. The reason I went with PX was for the lower spin compared to x100. 

 

So, my PGA pro friend said Mizuno would cut me some help to re shaft. 919 tours. Love em. 

 

They are recommending Modus 120 or KBS Tour V. Even with their help the tour V's are a little pricey to re shaft old heads. I know graphite is the answer but I'm not gonna put $50-70 shafts in these heads. 

 

I don't know much about the 120. How would this shaft compare to the PX all things being equal. 

 

If I can't find something to re shaft that makes sense $ wise I will start fresh with a new set. 

 

[jvincent]

The Modus 130 is supposed to be the most like the PX in feel.

 

That said all of the Modus shafts are much less harsh than PX. You can usually find 120s for a decent price although you would probably need the X if you are playing PX 6.5 even with the soft step.

 

[Golfrnut]

Yeah, the 120 and PX profile are not going to be similar...PX profiles have a lot more butt stiffness comparing flex to flex. 120S are comparable to DG R3s and 120X is decently close to the DG S3. If you have swung a DG profile, that could give you some idea. 
 

If I get on my laptop, I can pulls those profiles for you so you can get a better idea from a profile perspective. 
 

The other poster is right, the 130 is a closer version, but it is heavier. The X is pretty stout profile wise too. 

[mizuno player]

I knew the 130 was more a PX that's why I asked. Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. 

 

Thanks to you both. 

[Golfrnut]

2 minutes ago, mizuno player said:

I knew the 130 was more a PX that's why I asked. Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. 

 

Thanks to you both. 

[Golfrnut]

Is the goal a lighter weight or a softer profile in some area?  Or just graphite for the vibration dampening?

 

Here's the 3% matches to that profile.  Keep in mind the database is a bit dated.

 

[mizuno player]

11 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:

Is the goal a lighter weight or a softer profile in some area?  Or just graphite for the vibration dampening?

 

Here's the 3% matches to that profile.  Keep in mind the database is a bit dated.

 

Lighter, no. I would like to stay in the 120 neighborhood. 

 

Goal. No more elbow issues and keep the flight and spin characteristics of the PX. 

 

I looked at Steelfiber i110. I don't know much of anything about that shaft. Will it theroretically spin same as PX? ( Which to me means a few hundred less than x100). Wow the steelfiber looks identical. 

 

I've hit Modus 130 and liked it. It was X flex which was great on full swings but anything else was too difficult. 

 

I also hit recoil 125 proto f5 a few times. I liked those also. 

Edited February 20, 2021 by mizuno player

[Golfrnut]

6 minutes ago, mizuno player said:

Lighter, no. I would like to stay in the 120 neighborhood. 

 

Goal. No more elbow issues and keep the flight and spin characteristics of the PX. 

 

I looked at Steelfiber i110. I don't know much of anything about that shaft. Will it theroretically spin same as PX? ( Which to me means a few hundred less than x100). 

 

I've hit Modus 130 and liked it. It was X flex which was great on full swings but anything else was too difficult. 

 

I also hot recoil 125 proto f5 a few times. I liked those also. 

 

 

Results are going to be so individual, it's hard to say.  Even expanding my search to 5%, I don't really get any more additional hits on matches.  The PX is a bit unique in that sense.

 

Nippon has a pretty good rep for vibration dampening.  Swing science has the blues for $22?

https://store.swingscience.net/product/n-s-pro-superpeening-blue-x-flex-taper-tip/

[mizuno player]

6 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:

 

 

Results are going to be so individual, it's hard to say.  Even expanding my search to 5%, I don't really get any more additional hits on matches.  The PX is a bit unique in that sense.

 

Nippon has a pretty good rep for vibration dampening.  Swing science has the blues for $22?

https://store.swingscience.net/product/n-s-pro-superpeening-blue-x-flex-taper-tip/

First. Thanks so much. You have a ton of knowledge and I appreciate it.

 

Are the SPB low spin? I don't know much about that shaft. For that price I may try. 

[Golfrnut]

Just now, mizuno player said:

First. Thanks so much. You have a ton of knowledge and I appreciate it.

 

Are the SPB low spin? I don't know much about that shaft. For that price I may try. 

 

 

I really dunno.  There may be others here that can chime in with their opinions.  I only know the bend profiles.  Their marketing advertises them as low spin, whether that correlates to real world results is anyone's guess really.

 

I did one other place, a Fresno Golf Shop or something similar that showed they had them for less than $100 bucks.  I know absolutely zero about them, only saw them on a google search.  I know Swing Science is legit.

[mizuno player]

Just now, Golfrnut said:

 

 

I really dunno.  There may be others here that can chime in with their opinions.  I only know the bend profiles.  Their marketing advertises them as low spin, whether that correlates to real world results is anyone's guess really.

 

I did one other place, a Fresno Golf Shop or something similar that showed they had them for less than $100 bucks.  I know absolutely zero about them, only saw them on a google search.  I know Swing Science is legit.

Cool thanks. I'll do some reseat on those shafts. 

[eth4and]

14 minutes ago, mizuno player said:

Lighter, no. I would like to stay in the 120 neighborhood. 

 

Goal. No more elbow issues and keep the flight and spin characteristics of the PX. 

 

I looked at Steelfiber i110. I don't know much of anything about that shaft. Will it theroretically spin same as PX? ( Which to me means a few hundred less than x100). Wow the steelfiber looks identical. 

 

I've hit Modus 130 and liked it. It was X flex which was great on full swings but anything else was too difficult. 

 

I also hit recoil 125 proto f5 a few times. I liked those also. 

I hate to say it... but if you're trying to combat elbow issues, other than going graphite, any other steel shaft that follows an EI curve similar to that of your current PX gamers are unlikely to have the desired effect you're seeking dampening the vibrations. That said, the stepless design of the PX's can make them "feel" harsher than other comparable steel shafts. Your best option may be old school... keep using the PX's but install some foam vibration dampeners (https://www.golfworks.com/prosoft-shaft-dampening-inserts/p/ps5000/). 

 

As I said though, graphite is the best option of dampening vibration... although, as you noted, the cost of that can be prohibitive. If that wasn't the case, you could fit really nicely into the new MMTs. I've also had a lot of luck personally fitting the Fuji Pro iron shafts (115i tour x = 117g) & the Accra iCWT (115g). 

 

 

[mizuno player]

7 minutes ago, eth4and said:

I hate to say it... but if you're trying to combat elbow issues, other than going graphite, any other steel shaft that follows an EI curve similar to that of your current PX gamers are unlikely to have the desired effect you're seeking dampening the vibrations. That said, the stepless design of the PX's can make them "feel" harsher than other comparable steel shafts. Your best option may be old school... keep using the PX's but install some foam vibration dampeners (https://www.golfworks.com/prosoft-shaft-dampening-inserts/p/ps5000/). 

 

As I said though, graphite is the best option of dampening vibration... although, as you noted, the cost of that can be prohibitive. If that wasn't the case, you could fit really nicely into the new MMTs. I've also had a lot of luck personally fitting the Fuji Pro iron shafts (115i tour x = 117g) & the Accra iCWT (115g). 

 

 

Thanks. The MMT's have been on my radar. I was holding out hope to keep costs down and go modus. 

But .... 

[eth4and]

19 minutes ago, mizuno player said:

Thanks. The MMT's have been on my radar. I was holding out hope to keep costs down and go modus. 

But .... 

I'm a big fan of Modus; however, I would say the Tour 125x would be the closest to your PX gamers in terms of its EI curve (vs. the 130x which is softer in the tip but significantly stiffer through the midsection). The more traditional stepped design of the Modus should also help them "feel" less harsh compared to your PX's. But feeling less harsh isn't necessarily the same as dampening the vibrations of a steel shaft. 

 

I for one am very pleased to see the shaft manufacturers starting to apply their graphite prowess to iron shaft designs in the traditional "Tour" weight categories. I'm always in favor of having more fitting options!

[Cwebb]

Hopefully you will install Prosoft Inserts in whatever steel shaft you choose.  They noticeably reduce vibration up into the hands.

 

Also, if you fit well into Project X, the Modus 120 is a no go.  Not even close to the same bend profile, no matter what flex you choose.

 

If you want a little softer shaft, I'd consider a soft-stepped PX 6.0.  Reason I say that, is because the bend profile of the 6.5 is only barely stiffer than the 6.0.  It is not a "half flex" difference.  Soft-stepped 6.0 with Prosoft Inserts

[Gohigh]

I just dont see the point of spending couple hundred dollars to reshaft with another heavy steel shaft, IF the purpose was to cut down on the strain.

 

I would not even bother reshafting them, and just installing those prosoft inserts (Or just use closed cell window caulking foam at Home Depot for like 6 bucks).

 

You would be out cost of new grips and about an hour of your time.

 

Ive played both shafts and I cant see much benefit from elbow issues perspective either way.

[5baytjd]

2 hours ago, Golfrnut said:

 

 

I really dunno.  There may be others here that can chime in with their opinions.  I only know the bend profiles.  Their marketing advertises them as low spin, whether that correlates to real world results is anyone's guess really.

 

I did one other place, a Fresno Golf Shop or something similar that showed they had them for less than $100 bucks.  I know absolutely zero about them, only saw them on a google search.  I know Swing Science is legit.

I recently bought a shaft from Fresno golf shop; they had best price, and it arrived quickly (I am also in CA, so that likely helped in that regard) YMMV