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I'm looking to assemble a higher launching 3 wood.  Can someone please compare the following shafts because I have no way of hitting any of these in a fairway wood:

 

1.  Ventus Red 7X

2.  Atmos Tour Spec Red 7X

3.  Diamana RF 70X

Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5 Project X Denali Black 60S 

Callaway AI Smoke Max Project X Denali Black 70S 3 Wood

Callaway Apex UW 19 & 21 deg MMT 70 Stiff

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 5-PW Project X IO 5.5

Cleveland CBX4 50, 56, 60 KBS HI-REV 2.0 115 Wedges

Odyssey Dual Force Putter

TaylorMade TP5

Vessel Lux XV 2.0 Black Cart Bag

 

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1 hour ago, odshot68 said:

I'm looking to assemble a higher launching 3 wood.  Can someone please compare the following shafts because I have no way of hitting any of these in a fairway wood:

 

1.  Ventus Red 7X

2.  Atmos Tour Spec Red 7X

3.  Diamana RF 70X

1.  Ventus Red is probably one of the best fairway metal shafts I have tested.  That's saying a lot because I don't fit into large variety of shafts in general especially fairway metal.  It's mid launch w/mid spin although if you tip it 1.5 to 2 inches, it will bring spin down.  Very stable as well.

2.  Never tested it.

3.  Also another solid performer. and will launch slightly higher than Ventus Red with about the same spin.  Has a lot of feel but I didn't feel like it was as stable dispersion wise as the Ventus Red. 

 

Out of the 2 shafts I tested I would give the slight edge to the Ventus Red from trackman numbers for myself.  The only PGA tour player I know that has the RF in his 3 metal is Kevin Na. 

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TM SIM ti 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

 

 

 

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From a pure spec standpoint, the RF is likely to be the highest launching of the three with the Ventus being the lowest. From a feel standpoint, the RF is actually a pretty classic "blue" profile and thus will have that smoothness and "hinge" to it, so that should definitely be considered. The Ventus Red would make a perfect fairway counterpart to your normal "white" profile from a feel standpoint as it has a lot of the same things going on (fairly linear and stiffer in the midsection) with a few characteristics that would make a great fairway shaft (slightly stiffer in the butt and softer in the tip). 

 

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Taylormade Stealth+ 16* Ventus Black 8x // Taylormade SIM Ti V2 16.5* Ventus TR Blue 7X
Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 19* Nippon GOST Prototype Hybrid 10
Callaway X-Forged Single♦️  22* Nippon GOST Hybrid Tour X 
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Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 39*- 48* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0

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Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot || Taylormade Spider X Navy Slant

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Definitely not interested in a hinge shaft so the rf is out. I have hit the ventus blue and never liked it (I’m sure one of the few) as it just didn’t sync with my swing. I love the feel of my white 1k in the driver as to how it loads and feels. Will the ventus red feel similar to the blue? Anyone hit the tour spec red?

Callaway AI Smoke TD 10.5 Project X Denali Black 60S 

Callaway AI Smoke Max Project X Denali Black 70S 3 Wood

Callaway Apex UW 19 & 21 deg MMT 70 Stiff

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 5-PW Project X IO 5.5

Cleveland CBX4 50, 56, 60 KBS HI-REV 2.0 115 Wedges

Odyssey Dual Force Putter

TaylorMade TP5

Vessel Lux XV 2.0 Black Cart Bag

 

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12 minutes ago, odshot68 said:

Definitely not interested in a hinge shaft so the rf is out. I have hit the ventus blue and never liked it (I’m sure one of the few) as it just didn’t sync with my swing. I love the feel of my white 1k in the driver as to how it loads and feels. Will the ventus red feel similar to the blue? Anyone hit the tour spec red?

 

If you have particular preferences for the feel from the shaft you shouldn't be trying to use the shaft to control launch and spin.  You can't get the higher launch without the softer feel.   So stick to using shafts that fit your particular preference for feel and if you need higher launch/spin then use a higher lofted head.  It's a MUCH more reliable way to get your desired results.

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1 hour ago, odshot68 said:

Definitely not interested in a hinge shaft so the rf is out. I have hit the ventus blue and never liked it (I’m sure one of the few) as it just didn’t sync with my swing. I love the feel of my white 1k in the driver as to how it loads and feels. Will the ventus red feel similar to the blue? Anyone hit the tour spec red?

I have the Ventus Blue as one of my shafts for my 3 metal.  It doesn't feel like the blue.  The blue feels stout yet has feel to it if you know what I mean since it's is very tip stiff.  Red is softer in the tip but at the same time stable.  Tipping it will not affect feel IMO.  If you want a that's similar to your 1k or the AV raw white as your sig states, look into the the OG tensei white pro. 

Callaway AI Smoke Paradym 💎💎💎9* - Tour AD VF-7TX

TM SIM ti 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

 

 

 

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OP here. I’ve been given some great advice guys. Passing on the RF, I’ve never liked the ventus blue and have hit it a couple times. Previously played the tour spec black and liked it. So ordered the tour spec red 7x and putting a titleist tip on it to use with the 15 degree head. Thanks again. 

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Callaway AI Smoke Max Project X Denali Black 70S 3 Wood

Callaway Apex UW 19 & 21 deg MMT 70 Stiff

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 5-PW Project X IO 5.5

Cleveland CBX4 50, 56, 60 KBS HI-REV 2.0 115 Wedges

Odyssey Dual Force Putter

TaylorMade TP5

Vessel Lux XV 2.0 Black Cart Bag

 

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10 hours ago, odshot68 said:

OP here. I’ve been given some great advice guys. Passing on the RF, I’ve never liked the ventus blue and have hit it a couple times. Previously played the tour spec black and liked it. So ordered the tour spec red 7x and putting a titleist tip on it to use with the 15 degree head. Thanks again. 

I haven't hit the other 2 to compare but I have the Atmos TS Red 7S in my 5 wood and love it, it's so easy to hit and launches high. Not whippy or boardy, just perfectly in the middle, very stable and feels great. I think you'll like it.

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