Apex UW 23* Alternative

[POKeefe]

Unfortunately, Callaway isn't making a 23* UW. For those of you who are playing a 19* UW, have you found any clubs similar to it in the 22-23* range that you've liked? 19 and 21 feels like too close for gapping purposes.

[TheDominator273]

23* TSi1 or TSR1 hybrids

[shaolingolfer]

I think the shape of the Paradym X hybrid is quite similar, get a 5 hybrid and turn it down to 23.

[POKeefe]

Is there any issue with the UW being more fade-biased and those being more draw?

[billyspan]

8 minutes ago, POKeefe said:

Is there any issue with the UW being more fade-biased and those being more draw?

Absolutely. My 21* is factory bent 1*  to make it even more fade-biased.

 

The only hybrids/woods that I find to have an open face are the Sub Zero Callaway Wood line.  Super hard to find the 7W though.

[shaolingolfer]

Most UW I come across is 1 to 2 degree too upright for my eyes and I still have not find a store willing to bend it for me.

[POKeefe]

I'd love to have the UW I've got in a 19 at 22 or 23, but that's tour only and impossible to find. Seems like the club is a complete unicorn as there aren't many similar head adjustable 9 woods either to make a head more fade-biased. The Epic/Paradym Super Hybrid at 24 dialed down to 23 would be another option, but that seems similar to the Paradym X / TSR1 where it's significantly draw-biased.

For context, I didn't get along with the Srixon ZX Utility or Apex Hybrid, but do like UW and am generally a high-spin player. Would like to find a 4-iron replacement that is similar to the UW.

Edited September 15, 2023 by POKeefe

[alexc93]

I put a TSR1 20º in the bag recently to replace both a driving iron and 5 wood, i love it.

 

Might put a different driving iron in there in future to gap between the TSR1 and my 4 iron but so far loving it off the fairway and off the tee.

[MakersMarsh3]

5 hours ago, TheDominator273 said:

23* TSi1 or TSR1 hybrids

 

1 hour ago, alexc93 said:

I put a TSR1 20º in the bag recently to replace both a driving iron and 5 wood, i love it.

 

Might put a different driving iron in there in future to gap between the TSR1 and my 4 iron but so far loving it off the fairway and off the tee.

This right here

[Radeon962]

5 hours ago, shaolingolfer said:

I think the shape of the Paradym X hybrid is quite similar, get a 5 hybrid and turn it down to 23.

This… I have never had a hybrid in my bad for more than a round.  The Paradym X 5H has been in my bag for most of this season.  
 

I play 17* and 21* UW’s, then X 5H and then irons start at PXG Gen6 0311P 6i.

 

Best setup I have had in years.

[Dan Drake]

Found this thread because I am looking at something like this as well.  Perhaps the OG SLDR fairway HL 5wood at 21° with the adjustable hosel might work?  Maybe an RBZ (1 or 2) 5 wood HL, although not adjustable.  

 

Any other random ideas, preferably in the fairway or large hybrid form factor?