LAB Counterbalancing

[Golferclubs23]

27 minutes ago, 03trdblack said:

 

Mine shipped in 3 days 😳

Recently?

[03trdblack]

2 hours ago, Golferclubs23 said:

Recently?

 

Yes, ordered 11/14

[tcbringhurst]

On 11/19/2023 at 2:38 PM, Golferclubs23 said:

Is the wait still 5/6 weeks 

Ordered 11/8, will be delivered tomorrow 11/21. But with the custom putter 20% discount starting Wednesday, I’m certain that wait time will go back to 5-6 weeks

[drvrwdge]

Anyone receive their Max CB and have initial thoughts? Looking at ordering one and just not sure if the CB is really providing me anything or not.  

[flubberlange]

Just now, drvrwdge said:

Anyone receive their Max CB and have initial thoughts? Looking at ordering one and just not sure if the CB is really providing me anything or not.  

I have the Mezz Max CB. It is now in the bag putting the DF 2.1, Link, Mezz Max Broom, and Link on the bench.

 

Out of all those putters, the Mezz Max CB is the easiest for me to lineup and hit the ball on my intended target line. Distance control is usually pretty good too. 

 

It took awhile for me to find the ideal setup and grip though.

 

[Long Shot]

7 minutes ago, drvrwdge said:

Anyone receive their Max CB and have initial thoughts? Looking at ordering one and just not sure if the CB is really providing me anything or not.  

I have three rounds with mine, and I am switching directly from a Jailbird WH.  Lab def go the counterbalance principles correct. I have mine with the Accra shaft which it a shaft that I prefer because of the soft feel and feedback.  The roll is better than the JB, one drawback of the JB in my opinion was that I wasn't making those inside 6 footers as much as I felt I should. I feel the Mezz has been much better in that department for me. Distance control and feedback has been great. The only drawback is that it takes some time to get used to how the shaft enters the clubhead and sets up. If your a center shafted putter it will be an easy transition.  The Mezz C/B is just way more stable than the JB. 

 

8 minutes ago, flubberlange said:

I have the Mezz Max CB. It is now in the bag putting the DF 2.1, Link, Mezz Max Broom, and Link on the bench.

 

Out of all those putters, the Mezz Max CB is the easiest for me to lineup and hit the ball on my intended target line. Distance control is usually pretty good too. 

 

It took awhile for me to find the ideal setup and grip though.

 

 

[drvrwdge]

So ive been using either a DF 2.1 or Mezz Max for the last few years but in a standard config. My one concern is with the Super Stroke grip not having the built in press, what effect that will have. 

[Long Shot]

4 minutes ago, drvrwdge said:

So ive been using either a DF 2.1 or Mezz Max for the last few years but in a standard config. My one concern is with the Super Stroke grip not having the built in press, what effect that will have. 

To me it set up better than using the the press grip that comes with standard size putters. I feel that the press grips just add another element of alignment to get used to. 

[drvrwdge]

Did you stay same lie angle and standard?

[flubberlange]

20 minutes ago, drvrwdge said:

Did you stay same lie angle and standard?

 

my standard putters have lie angles of 69 but went with 71 with CB because I slightly changed my setup (closer to the ball a tad) since I purchased the 69s.

[drvrwdge]

Just now, flubberlange said:

 

my standard putters have lie angles of 69 but went with 71 with CB because I slightly changed my setup (closer to the ball a tad) since I purchased the 69s.

Ok but that was a change in set up, not directly related to going CB vs standard?

[flubberlange]

3 minutes ago, drvrwdge said:

Ok but that was a change in set up, not directly related to going CB vs standard?

You're correct.

[Long Shot]

1 hour ago, drvrwdge said:

Did you stay same lie angle and standard?

I stayed with the same lie angle that I use in most of my putters 70*

[golfman009]

Anyone who has one of these counterbalanced ones…does it still have the forward shaft lean built in or is it more traditional?

[tcbringhurst]

14 minutes ago, golfman009 said:

Anyone who has one of these counterbalanced ones…does it still have the forward shaft lean built in or is it more traditional?

I’ve heard there isn’t as much forward lean in the CB ones

[golfman009]

1 hour ago, tcbringhurst said:

I’ve heard there isn’t as much forward lean in the CB ones

@Long Shot @flubberlange Either of you guys confirm? 

 

Thanks!

 

[flubberlange]

3 minutes ago, golfman009 said:

@Long Shot @flubberlange Either of you guys confirm? 

 

Thanks!

 

Confirmed!

[ilikegolf26]

4 hours ago, golfman009 said:

Anyone who has one of these counterbalanced ones…does it still have the forward shaft lean built in or is it more traditional?

I can confirm this as well. Doesn’t feel like it’s even close to the shaft lean that’s in the standard length DF or Mezz (I’ve had both). 

Edited December 23, 2023 by ilikegolf26

[golfman009]

Thx!

[mstuewe]

On 12/19/2023 at 10:06 AM, Long Shot said:

To me it set up better than using the the press grip that comes with standard size putters. I feel that the press grips just add another element of alignment to get used to. 

I agree.  Having the grip in line with the shaft feels more natural.  
 

but I never understood the press grip to begin with.  I always thought a forward press was to get your hands in front of the ball and to help level out your shoulders.  The press grip doesn’t provide those benefits.

[Long Shot]

11 hours ago, mstuewe said:

I agree.  Having the grip in line with the shaft feels more natural.  
 

but I never understood the press grip to begin with.  I always thought a forward press was to get your hands in front of the ball and to help level out your shoulders.  The press grip doesn’t provide those benefits.

Yes I always thought the same thing about the press grip, defeats the purpose. I didn't get along well with Labs standard size putters, but the CB and Broom I putt real well with the shaft lean. 

[Long Shot]

On 12/22/2023 at 3:56 PM, tcbringhurst said:

I’ve heard there isn’t as much forward lean in the CB ones

Yes eems like less lean

[ilikegolf26]

What SuperStroke came on yours? I thought it was going to just be the 17” but I got the 3.0XL 17” which so far I’m not a fan of at all. When I ordered it it didn’t say anything about being the 3.0XL version and I’ve always hated the thicker grips on putters. 

Edited December 26, 2023 by ilikegolf26

[Long Shot]

On 12/26/2023 at 9:03 AM, ilikegolf26 said:

What SuperStroke came on yours? I thought it was going to just be the 17” but I got the 3.0XL 17” which so far I’m not a fan of at all. When I ordered it it didn’t say anything about being the 3.0XL version and I’ve always hated the thicker grips on putters. 

This is the grip it came with. Tour 3.0 17” doesn’t say anything about XL.

[Long Shot]

I have continued to have a ton of success with the C/B. I have always putted with the claw, both with standard and my brooms. This set up with the grip and extra length feels very good and for me really gets the ball online. Also have had an improvement in lag putting (and it wasn’t too bad before). 

[ilikegolf26]

28 minutes ago, Long Shot said:

This is the grip it came with. Tour 3.0 17” doesn’t say anything about XL.

Ok that looks the same as mine. It guess it’s 17 and not XL. Either way not a huge fan. 

[Long Shot]

4 hours ago, ilikegolf26 said:

Ok that looks the same as mine. It guess it’s 17 and not XL. Either way not a huge fan. 

I have used the Oddysey Jailbird c/b and it also has the same grip. I get along well with it. Just need to be mindful of weight or if there is a weight in the end if you regrip it. 

Edited December 27, 2023 by Long Shot

[duffputter]

Does anyone the head weight of the CB Mezz Max and the heavier option?

[drvrwdge]

Took the plunge…

[rubensnaves]

Can anyone compare a startard mezz os mezz max with a couterbalanced? how does it feel? Is it different to align it with less forward shaft angle? etc