Callaway AI Smoke Triple Diamond MAX?

[Kmac]

I kind of want to try a 2024 Ventus Blue +Velo in mine, but its been so good in the stock config I just cant justify it....yet. 

 

Also, the TD 3w is still really really impressive. It just wants to go straight and far which is all I can ask for from the #2 slot.

[kylesilk]

Forgive me but will the old adapters work in these.  Currently in. Rogue ST Max LS

[Cactus Jack]

36 minutes ago, kylesilk said:

Forgive me but will the old adapters work in these.  Currently in. Rogue ST Max LS

 

Yes, same adapter. 

[newportbeach]

On 6/30/2024 at 5:31 AM, apprenti23 said:

PGATSS with the mix and match system wow that is a cool setup!

 

Need to pay the one near me a visit.

[Sep]

On 6/17/2024 at 9:30 PM, third-times-a-charm said:

If you like the Mav SZ get a regular TD, not the TD M. You'll like it much more.

 

On 6/17/2024 at 9:46 PM, third-times-a-charm said:

The Mav SZ was a low spin unforgiving launch monitor queen. If you like it and can tame it you can play anything. The new AI TD would be the perfect upgrade - more forgiveness (spin retention) across the face but still low spin - and with the right hosel settings and shaft could be a great upgrade if you like it. I mean the TD M could be a good upgrade as well, but coming from the Mav SZ I think you'll want something more neutral to fade biased and lower spin but doing further testing will confirm.

 

So I am following up on this to bounce some ideas off of your (and anyone else's head).

 

My pro was kind enough to allow me to take a TD 9* head on my vacation that I paired with my gamer Aldila Rogue White from my Mavrik.  I have it turned up to a 10* with a draw setting.

 

I had a great week driving the ball.  I hit 30 of 42 fairways for the week, I would guess 26 of which were with the driver.  Distance was nothing earth shattering from where I was with the SZ.  Average drive was around 285, if I flushed one I would touch just under 3 bills.  The launch was still a wee bit lower than I like.  And I just came home and went on a launch monitor to confirm, I am hovering somewhere around 10-11 launch angle on quality strikes.  I am hitting center of face more often than not, but the heel misses have been forgiving.

 

My only complaint is that it still feels like it wants to leak right.  I understand that it is probably my swing to a degree.  But there have been some comments on here from people that say the TD Max has a bit more of a neutral bias, as well as being easier to turn over.  Some commented the TD just has a leak right for them that wont quit, and I would agree that's how mine feels.

 

Am I searching for something that's not there?  Or do I just accept that I hit a bit of a cut with my driver and be done with it?  lol

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:10 PM by Sep

[Glock917]

1 minute ago, Sep said:

My only complaint is that it still feels like it wants to leak right.  I understand that it is probably my swing to a degree.  But there have been some comments on here from people that say the TD Max has a bit more of a neutral bias, as well as being easier to turn over.  Some commented the TD just has a leak right for them that wont quit, and I would agree that's how mine feels.

 

Am I searching for something that's not there?  Or do I just accept that I hit a bit of a cut with my driver and be done with it?  lol

 

Yup its a pretty strong feature of the Ai TD in that it has a strong right start line bias not so much fade bias imo. I put mine in D+1/DN as well just for start line purposes. 

[Sep]

2 minutes ago, Glock917 said:

 

Yup its a pretty strong feature of the Ai TD in that it has a strong right start line bias not so much fade bias imo. I put mine in D+1/DN as well just for start line purposes. 

 

Yup, I'm searching for something that's not there? lol  

[Red4282]

I dunno, maybe its me, I havent had too much time with my AI TD, but so far, in a 9 degree head set at +2 and standard lie, Im hitting my start lines with a pretty consistent 5-10 yard baby cut. Its gorgeous really. 

[Glock917]

1 hour ago, Red4282 said:

I dunno, maybe its me, I havent had too much time with my AI TD, but so far, in a 9 degree head set at +2 and standard lie, Im hitting my start lines with a pretty consistent 5-10 yard baby cut. Its gorgeous really. 

Makes sense. I am assuming you do a pull fade of sorts right? That'll be ideal. I am mainly a drawer with a slight draw being ideal, so a right start line bias does not help me too much especially when its a right block miss lol. 

[cardoustie]

Play with the weights .. and the shaft

 

I can now hit tight draws with the Max .. 4 in front and 14 back, I need the spin apparently 

 

tried some diff shafts (green smoke and ZF 50tx) vs my Ventus and man if you don’t get enough spin you can hit some really wild ones 

 

my g400 lst is def straighter but also def shorter 

[Red4282]

12 minutes ago, Glock917 said:

Makes sense. I am assuming you do a pull fade of sorts right? That'll be ideal. I am mainly a drawer with a slight draw being ideal, so a right start line bias does not help me too much especially when its a right block miss lol. 

No, thats whats weird to me, is previous driver it was push cuts, or just a push. Path on trackman was pretty consistent about 1-3 in to out. Pop this sucker on and nothing starts right for me… who knows, it could just come down to the visuals of setup. Perhaps with the old driver I was setting up open and didn't know it.

[Glock917]

7 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

No, thats whats weird to me, is previous driver it was push cuts, or just a push. Path on trackman was pretty consistent about 1-3 in to out. Pop this sucker on and nothing starts right for me… who knows, it could just come down to the visuals of setup. Perhaps with the old driver I was setting up open and didn't know it.

Yeah that is interesting. Sometimes it is something anecdotal and how we all individually line up the top line face angle. Maybe I am just lining it up open on this head lol 🤷‍♂️ 

[ANimz]

6 hours ago, Sep said:

 

 

So I am following up on this to bounce some ideas off of your (and anyone else's head).

 

My pro was kind enough to allow me to take a TD 9* head on my vacation that I paired with my gamer Aldila Rogue White from my Mavrik.  I have it turned up to a 10* with a draw setting.

 

I had a great week driving the ball.  I hit 30 of 42 fairways for the week, I would guess 26 of which were with the driver.  Distance was nothing earth shattering from where I was with the SZ.  Average drive was around 285, if I flushed one I would touch just under 3 bills.  The launch was still a wee bit lower than I like.  And I just came home and went on a launch monitor to confirm, I am hovering somewhere around 10-11 launch angle on quality strikes.  I am hitting center of face more often than not, but the heel misses have been forgiving.

 

My only complaint is that it still feels like it wants to leak right.  I understand that it is probably my swing to a degree.  But there have been some comments on here from people that say the TD Max has a bit more of a neutral bias, as well as being easier to turn over.  Some commented the TD just has a leak right for them that wont quit, and I would agree that's how mine feels.

 

Am I searching for something that's not there?  Or do I just accept that I hit a bit of a cut with my driver and be done with it?  lol

 

 

My experience so far as a natural draw flight player.  Neutral, I still have my draw, but can play a fade.  Weight forward made the draw more pronounced.  Draw setting neutral made it easy to draw, but brought hook back to play.  Dropped loft to 8*, and it was more prone to fades, but had a lot of straight flights.  

[KZfore10]

Can anyone compare the TD Max to the Max in terms of spin?

 

I’ve been doing some testing and actually seeing better(lower) spin numbers with the max. But I like the feel, setup, and ability to shape the TD max. 

Edited 23 hours ago by KZfore10
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