Rule on hole in one

[dcfas]

Jarred @ 165 yds, but...

I jarred a 165 yard par 3, took a chunk out of the side of the hole on the way in, hit the steel rim of the cup and pin, but the ball squirreled out of the hole. I don't know if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. Figure it's not a hole in one but was wondering where in the rule book it spells it out.
TIA,
D

[joe68odessa]

where did the ball end up? how far from the hole?

[nosil]

The ball isn't in the hole so it isn't a hole in one. Doesn't matter if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. There was an incident a q-school a few years ago where the player putted the ball it hit the bottom of the cup and bounced out. He had to take another stroke and ironically, he missed his card by one stroke.

[Bomb and Gouge]

That stinks...not a hole in one.

 

Keep it up and you'll get one soon enough!

[dcfas]

where did the ball end up? how far from the hole?

 

6' from the pin-- missed the birdie putt but didn't really care at that point. I kept looking at the cup thinking maybe it wasn't set in the green properly (although it was).

 

Anyway, something to look forward to.

 

D

[joe68odessa]

97.103.13.110-------- 70.127.117.180 ..... 97.96.168.55

 

 

The ball isn't in the hole so it isn't a hole in one. Doesn't matter if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. There was an incident a q-school a few years ago where the player putted the ball it hit the bottom of the cup and bounced out. He had to take another stroke and ironically, he missed his card by one stroke.

 

 

wow, that totally blows

[Brando5105]

I have had the same thing happen to me 3 times!!!!And one of them shot out of the cup and went OB. And I still dont have a hole in one.

 

Just keep firing at the pins and you will get one some day

[Bogie Hokie]

I have had the same thing happen to me 3 times!!!!And one of them shot out of the cup and went OB. And I still dont have a hole in one.

 

Just keep firing at the pins and you will get one some day

 

Wow! All 3 times were for hole in ones?! Even if they were chip/pitch ins, that really blows.

[kiwidave]

Nice 3

[HackerD]

Close call. :fool: Obviously a hole-in-one is a rare thing and I would think flying it straight into the hole without roll is even rarer.

[rblmp32]

The ball isn't in the hole so it isn't a hole in one. Doesn't matter if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. There was an incident a q-school a few years ago where the player putted the ball it hit the bottom of the cup and bounced out. He had to take another stroke and ironically, he missed his card by one stroke.

 

 

wow, that totally blows

 

The guy was flabbergasted when it happen as you might guess. It wasn't as if he lipped the putt either, it was straight in the center as I remember it. Poor guy, he's still trying to get his card I think.

[CarloGolfer]

The ball isn't in the hole so it isn't a hole in one. Doesn't matter if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. There was an incident a q-school a few years ago where the player putted the ball it hit the bottom of the cup and bounced out.

 

I've done that. man, does it suck.

[muxi87]

The ball isn't in the hole so it isn't a hole in one. Doesn't matter if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. There was an incident a q-school a few years ago where the player putted the ball it hit the bottom of the cup and bounced out. He had to take another stroke and ironically, he missed his card by one stroke.

 

wow, that totally blows

 

The guy was flabbergasted when it happen as you might guess. It wasn't as if he lipped the putt either, it was straight in the center as I remember it. Poor guy, he's still trying to get his card I think.

 

 

I don't believe it hit the bottom of the cup. I saw the putt...the guy dead centered the thing...the actual cup was sticking out a bit from the dirt around it, it hit the metal lip of the cup, and jumped out of the hole. It was a few years ago. I had never seen anything like it until about a month ago when the same exact thing happened to a buddy of mine--he had a slightly up hill, 4 foot putt, put it right in the gut, hit the metal lip of the cup, watched it jump out. It's a one in a million thing, but definitely can happen as I've not seen it twice.

 

As for the OP, good par :fool:

[One_Putt_Blunder]

where did the ball end up? how far from the hole?

 

6' from the pin-- missed the birdie putt but didn't really care at that point. I kept looking at the cup thinking maybe it wasn't set in the green properly (although it was).

 

Anyway, something to look forward to.

 

D

 

man that sucks but everyone is right, no hole in one

 

well at least we know the op is honest :fool: :man_in_love:

[2zlinks]

The ball isn't in the hole so it isn't a hole in one. Doesn't matter if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. There was an incident a q-school a few years ago where the player putted the ball it hit the bottom of the cup and bounced out. He had to take another stroke and ironically, he missed his card by one stroke.

 

 

wow, that totally blows

 

The guy was flabbergasted when it happen as you might guess. It wasn't as if he lipped the putt either, it was straight in the center as I remember it. Poor guy, he's still trying to get his card I think.

 

Joe Daley on the 17th hole (4th round) at La Quinta if memory serves me right.

[jjj912]

Not a hole in one because the ball was not holed.

 

Holed

A ball is "holed" when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole and all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole.

[animalistic]

The ball isn't in the hole so it isn't a hole in one. Doesn't matter if it hit the bottom of the cup or not. There was an incident a q-school a few years ago where the player putted the ball it hit the bottom of the cup and bounced out. He had to take another stroke and ironically, he missed his card by one stroke.

 

 

wow, that totally blows

 

The guy was flabbergasted when it happen as you might guess. It wasn't as if he lipped the putt either, it was straight in the center as I remember it. Poor guy, he's still trying to get his card I think.

 

Joe Daley on the 17th hole (4th round) at La Quinta if memory serves me right.

 

And me twice...

[finalist]

Not a hole in one because the ball was not holed.

 

Holed

A ball is "holed" when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole and all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole.

 

That's a matchplay rule that is broken here and there.

A player has a very short putt. Strokes it into the cup and grabs the ball out of the cup, BUT the ball never fully came to rest. RULES VIOLATION!

[jskd82]

What if your ball gets pinned against the rim of the cup and the flag pole? is that a hole in one, because if you pull the flag out the ball will drop into the hole. I'm asking just out of curiosity because alot of the flag poles at my course like to lean towards one side.

[jjj912]

Rule 17-4 covers that situation. The answer depends on whether or not the ball met the definition of holded prior to pulling out the flagstick.

 

17-4. Ball Resting Against Flagstick

When a player's ball rests against the flagstick in the hole and the ball is not holed, the player or another person authorized by him may move or remove the flagstick, and if the ball falls into the hole, the player is deemed to have holed out with his last stroke; otherwise, the ball, if moved, must be placed on the lip of the hole, without penalty.

[dcfas]

Thanks for citing the rule. I knew I had read it at some point or another. I've been playing since 9 years old and have hit the pin or have had the ball come to rest within an inch probably a dozen times. I've also holed two eagles on par 4's from 100 yds and from 150 yds. But never an ace.

 

I guess I'll just have to keep playing. Not so bad a deal, after all.

[KevCarter]

Not a hole in one because the ball was not holed.

 

Holed

A ball is "holed" when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole and all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole.

 

That's a matchplay rule that is broken here and there.

A player has a very short putt. Strokes it into the cup and grabs the ball out of the cup, BUT the ball never fully came to rest. RULES VIOLATION!

 

16/5.5 Player Holes Short Putt and Allegedly Removes Ball from Hole Before It Is at Rest

 

Q. A player strikes a short putt into the hole and removes the ball from the hole. His opponent or a fellow-competitor claims he heard the ball bouncing in the bottom of the hole-liner at the time the player was removing the ball from the hole, and therefore the ball cannot be considered holed in view of the Definition of “Holed” which states: “A ball is holed when it is at rest within the circumference of the hole....” What is the ruling?

 

A. The ball is holed. The words “at rest” are in the Definition of “Holed” to make it clear that if a ball falls below the lip and thereafter bounces out, it is not holed.

[TLUBulldogGolf]

That was Joe Daley that had that happen to him at Q-school, as was stated before. And it hit the rim of the cup and bounced out not the bottom. I have actually had that happen to me twice within the last two months. Both uphill short putts that I hit firmly, went in dead center and hit the cub, which in one case was not sunk deep enough and in another was not sunk properly. Also happened to me on a temp green that had an extra big hole with a normal cup 2-3 inches below the surface. Hit my putt in and it hit the edge of the cup and bounced out. That's one rule that could use some changing.