Am I LONGDRIVE MATERIAL?

[ThunderBuzzworth]

What would my numbers be based on these 45" numbers?

With 9.5* Razr Hawk tour 45" shaft. This is based on my best swing on trackman 2 days ago. My "real" swing is an effortless 118 MPH and im curious what i could get up to with a Long Drive specific club. i have never been able to even swing one.

Swing Speed: 127 MPH
Ball Speed: 189 MPH
Spin Rate: 2450 RPM
Launch Angle: 9*
Total: 346 Yards

[ProForceX]

That launch could be a tad higher, spin a tad lower. But if you got a trainer and then showed promise, you could get a fitter and then you might be able to go places.

[J13]

I would say your LD material with some training.

[isaacbm]

I've had the chance to get to know both Jamie Sadlowski and Jason Zubac and I'll give you a little insight into their launch numbers.
Just last week, Jason was on trackman at the RCGA golf center in Calgary. After a warmup, he started hitting a 45 inch driver. By 10 shots, he had it grooved pretty good and his average carry distance was 365. That's just carry. His launch was 12 and his spin was around1900. Then he went to the 48 inch driver and he was hitting the ball over 400 in the air time after time. He carried 2 in a row 415. That's carry!! His ball speed was 220. The amazing thing about Jason is how straight he hits it. He hit it within a 30 yard grid at 400 yards. And all of his longest hit's were very slight fades. That day, he hit about 50 balls till I left and I would say that 40 were in play and ten were semi hooks. Quite the site.

I'm not trying to discourage, I'm just saying that those are the numbers you need to contend....

Best wishes to you!

[muxi87]

At a natural swing of 127, yes, you could have a shot.

You never know what some training will get you...both with strength and technique.

Why not give it a shot...?

[Thrillhouse]

get out there and have a go my man! there is no reason not to and im sure youll have a lot of fun, even if you can't hit it 415 like jason zuback.

[mx6262]

You could do some locals in your area. Its still getting reps in. On the tracman or at the range is cool but when ya on the spot is diffrent. You got the bones for it, go for it..Its the cheapest way to become a pro!!!!

[ThunderBuzzworth]

when you say "training" what are you referring to? I have hit a few drives over 400 with my 45" driver on course and gotten ballspeed to 194 MPH with the same club. I got into a Local REMAX qualifier a few years ago when i was 17 and hit my best 389 yards with my 45" Callaway ft3 tour and there was a long delay determining whether it was on the grid or not. final decision was that it wasnt but i want to try an actual long drive specific club. My clubfitter and i have talked about it a couple times but i have been more concerned with U.S am and Michigan Am tournaments to start going to the range and swinging balls out.

What is the average gain in clubspeed from 45" to 48" shaft? based on Ballspeeds with Sadlowski im guessing 10-12 MPH?? And what is a good LD head to get if i pursue this? i am a lefty as my name states.

[muxi87]

[quote name='LeftyBomber88' timestamp='1318883813' post='3684445']
when you say "training" what are you referring to?
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I think you have a shot just looking at your regular 45", standard driver numbers.

When "training" to focus on hitting it long off the tee, there are some techniques you can pick up on. Also, not sure if you workout or anything...that could help also.

Part two is getting used to/training with the LD specific equipment. They don't use 48" shafts and LD heads for no reason.

Get something built up and see what you can do. Go for it.

[ThunderBuzzworth]

I do have a workout regimen that i follow coming from a 17 year hockey background. Also... when i hit my Gamer clubs for actual golf i tee my driver pretty low for more control so i do understand i can get my spin a lot lower by teeing it really high and hitting up on it. if i get one in my hands soon ill post my progress

[NavyLD12]

You can always give it a shot my ss is around 130 with a ld club. I know I will never win worlds but I enjoy just going out and bombing it. As far as drivers goes the Krank Rage Black is a great head matched with a Aldila RIP LD or Voodoo LD shaft. I have a feeling this combo will win this year.

[Vegaman]

[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1318814160' post='3680969']
I've had the chance to get to know both Jamie Sadlowski and Jason Zubac and I'll give you a little insight into their launch numbers.
Just last week, Jason was on trackman at the RCGA golf center in Calgary. After a warmup, he started hitting a 45 inch driver. By 10 shots, he had it grooved pretty good and his average carry distance was 365. That's just carry. His launch was 12 and his spin was around1900. Then he went to the 48 inch driver and he was hitting the ball over 400 in the air time after time. He carried 2 in a row 415. That's carry!! His ball speed was 220. The amazing thing about Jason is how straight he hits it. He hit it within a 30 yard grid at 400 yards. And all of his longest hit's were very slight fades. That day, he hit about 50 balls till I left and I would say that 40 were in play and ten were semi hooks. Quite the site.

I'm not trying to discourage, I'm just saying that those are the numbers you need to contend....

Best wishes to you!
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About Zuback, why is it that he never contends anymore with numbers like that? He's almost a has been in LD circles..One of the legends, but nowhere near the top these days. Maybe he's too short (physically) these days? How tall is he?

[mesquite2]

He's about 5'9 & the last 2 years he's made the final 8, not too shabby with the young talent that long drive has currently.

[isaacbm]

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[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1318814160' post='3680969']
I've had the chance to get to know both Jamie Sadlowski and Jason Zubac and I'll give you a little insight into their launch numbers.
Just last week, Jason was on trackman at the RCGA golf center in Calgary. After a warmup, he started hitting a 45 inch driver. By 10 shots, he had it grooved pretty good and his average carry distance was 365. That's just carry. His launch was 12 and his spin was around1900. Then he went to the 48 inch driver and he was hitting the ball over 400 in the air time after time. He carried 2 in a row 415. That's carry!! His ball speed was 220. The amazing thing about Jason is how straight he hits it. He hit it within a 30 yard grid at 400 yards. And all of his longest hit's were very slight fades. That day, he hit about 50 balls till I left and I would say that 40 were in play and ten were semi hooks. Quite the site.

I'm not trying to discourage, I'm just saying that those are the numbers you need to contend....

Best wishes to you!
[/quote]

About Zuback, why is it that he never contends anymore with numbers like that? He's almost a has been in LD circles..One of the legends, but nowhere near the top these days. Maybe he's too short (physically) these days? How tall is he?
[/quote]

He's been hurt for a few years. He says he's healthy now but when you get around 40 it starts to get a lot harder to stay in competitive form. Everything just takes a little longer to heal.

If he stays healthy for a month or so, I would expect him to contend a the World's.... Time will tell

[Vegaman]

[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1320023559' post='3740105']
[quote name='Vegaman' timestamp='1319970918' post='3737677']
[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1318814160' post='3680969']
I've had the chance to get to know both Jamie Sadlowski and Jason Zubac and I'll give you a little insight into their launch numbers.
Just last week, Jason was on trackman at the RCGA golf center in Calgary. After a warmup, he started hitting a 45 inch driver. By 10 shots, he had it grooved pretty good and his average carry distance was 365. That's just carry. His launch was 12 and his spin was around1900. Then he went to the 48 inch driver and he was hitting the ball over 400 in the air time after time. He carried 2 in a row 415. That's carry!! His ball speed was 220. The amazing thing about Jason is how straight he hits it. He hit it within a 30 yard grid at 400 yards. And all of his longest hit's were very slight fades. That day, he hit about 50 balls till I left and I would say that 40 were in play and ten were semi hooks. Quite the site.

I'm not trying to discourage, I'm just saying that those are the numbers you need to contend....

Best wishes to you!
[/quote]

About Zuback, why is it that he never contends anymore with numbers like that? He's almost a has been in LD circles..One of the legends, but nowhere near the top these days. Maybe he's too short (physically) these days? How tall is he?
[/quote]

He's been hurt for a few years. He says he's healthy now but when you get around 40 it starts to get a lot harder to stay in competitive form. Everything just takes a little longer to heal.

If he stays healthy for a month or so, I would expect him to contend a the World's.... Time will tell
[/quote]

Yeah, seeing him swing you for sure understand if he injures himself sometimes..At 40 it will be difficult to keep up with fresh bodied youngsters coming up these days. Unlike regular golf, I'd say it will be difficult, almost impossibe to be competitive in long driving in your 40s. It's just much more of a pure athletes sport than regular golf. So, "oldies" won't be able to keep it up. Maybe earlier when LD was a fringe kind of sport, but these days the breadth of talent will make 40+ guys redundant.

[Swisstrader98]

I say go for it, but try some local qualifiers first as you've indicated you've started to do. That will give you the best indication of whether or not you can compete at that level.

Oh, and find a good source for steroids and HGH

[mesquite2]

All finalists in every division are drug tested on site, go to longdrivers.com to see the list of banned substances. Ae there some LD competitors that take drugs?, probably, but all the top competitors that I know wouldn't go anywhere near them. All these guys go to about a dozen LD events a year, if they saw a person's body drastically changing, they would say something to that person. These guys work out like crazy in the off season, getting stronger & more limber than they were the year before. You obviously don't know much about long drive, or you wouldn' t make a statement like you did. Sadlowski-170 lbs., Mazza-165 lbs. Colling-165 lbs. all have made the finals & all can go over 400 yds. consistently, it's not all about muscle, most LD'ers don't use weights at all, but their workout routine would make you puke. You won't go to far if you can't hit the center of the clubface most of the time.

[Swisstrader98]

[quote name='mesquite2' timestamp='1320083307' post='3742397']
All finalists in every division are drug tested on site, go to longdrivers.com to see the list of banned substances. Ae there some LD competitors that take drugs?, probably, but all the top competitors that I know wouldn't go anywhere near them. All these guys go to about a dozen LD events a year, if they saw a person's body drastically changing, they would say something to that person. These guys work out like crazy in the off season, getting stronger & more limber than they were the year before. You obviously don't know much about long drive, or you wouldn' t make a statement like you did. Sadlowski-170 lbs., Mazza-165 lbs. Colling-165 lbs. all have made the finals & all can go over 400 yds. consistently, it's not all about muscle, most LD'ers don't use weights at all, but their workout routine would make you puke. You won't go to far if you can't hit the center of the clubface most of the time.
[/quote]

Roid rage much?? Dude: that was meant as a joke. Lighten up

[wfrogge1]

[quote name='mesquite2' timestamp='1320083307' post='3742397']
All finalists in every division are drug tested on site, go to longdrivers.com to see the list of banned substances. Ae there some LD competitors that take drugs?, probably, but all the top competitors that I know wouldn't go anywhere near them. All these guys go to about a dozen LD events a year, if they saw a person's body drastically changing, they would say something to that person. These guys work out like crazy in the off season, getting stronger & more limber than they were the year before. You obviously don't know much about long drive, or you wouldn' t make a statement like you did. Sadlowski-170 lbs., Mazza-165 lbs. Colling-165 lbs. all have made the finals & all can go over 400 yds. consistently, it's not all about muscle, most LD'ers don't use weights at all, but their workout routine would make you puke. You won't go to far if you can't hit the center of the clubface most of the time.
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I disagree with its not about muscle as hitting a golf ball relies heavily on fast twitch muscles.

[mesquite2]

reply wasn't meant as rage, just general info, didn't know it was a joke.

[bullmanz15]

Swiss longdrivers are tired of the same line from golfers referring to us as roided out freaks using illegal equipment. You can't hit a ball 400+ yards I am not a scratch golfer but I am not blaming you for the set of irons you use. I use a 4* driver on a 3X shaft CPM about 279. I launch the ball around 11.8* with around 2100 spin you can probably spin a ball back on a green to 5 feet, I can not. If you can't do it, don't talk smack about those that can and bust our a$$es to do so. Joke or not.

[mesquite2]

wfrooge1, I said it's not ALL about muscle.

[VinceRKG]

With Stock drivers, Long Drivers are normally higher around 135+ swing speed and ball speeds in low 200's....just from seeing what my team hits daily. Will take some time to get above 135 with playing driver, but a couple years and really going after it you will be able to. Good luck..

[db22]

i grew up in mesquite and watched zuback and hooper. the most amazing thing about these ld guys is there FLEXABILITY. if you played that much hockey youve probablly got the strength i would suggest having a routine to gain more range of motion zuback spent more time on the range stretching then he ever did hitting balls. that being said a guy named mitch posh had the highest ball speed ever recorded at the long drive 3 years ago but cant get it in play in the semis. theres alot to be said for doing it when u need to alot of guys can hit it a ton...but hitting it in the grid every round is what has to be done.

[Thrillhouse]

Swiss longdrivers are tired of the same line from golfers referring to us as roided out freaks using illegal equipment. You can't hit a ball 400+ yards I am not a scratch golfer but I am not blaming you for the set of irons you use. I use a 4* driver on a 3X shaft CPM about 279. I launch the ball around 11.8* with around 2100 spin you can probably spin a ball back on a green to 5 feet, I can not. If you can't do it, don't talk smack about those that can and bust our a$es to do so. Joke or not.

 

Swiss longdrivers?

[bell812]

Swiss longdrivers are tired of the same line from golfers referring to us as roided out freaks using illegal equipment. You can't hit a ball 400+ yards I am not a scratch golfer but I am not blaming you for the set of irons you use. I use a 4* driver on a 3X shaft CPM about 279. I launch the ball around 11.8* with around 2100 spin you can probably spin a ball back on a green to 5 feet, I can not. If you can't do it, don't talk smack about those that can and bust our a$es to do so. Joke or not.

 

Swiss longdrivers?

 

I was going to reply to this, but I better stay neutral.

[Shwagin1066]

[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1318814160' post='3680969']
I've had the chance to get to know both Jamie Sadlowski and Jason Zubac and I'll give you a little insight into their launch numbers.
Just last week, Jason was on trackman at the RCGA golf center in Calgary. After a warmup, he started hitting a 45 inch driver. By 10 shots, he had it grooved pretty good and his average carry distance was 365. That's just carry. His launch was 12 and his spin was around1900. Then he went to the 48 inch driver and he was hitting the ball over 400 in the air time after time. He carried 2 in a row 415. That's carry!! His ball speed was 220. The amazing thing about Jason is how straight he hits it. He hit it within a 30 yard grid at 400 yards. And all of his longest hit's were very slight fades. That day, he hit about 50 balls till I left and I would say that 40 were in play and ten were semi hooks. Quite the site.

I'm not trying to discourage, I'm just saying that those are the numbers you need to contend....

Best wishes to you!
[/quote]

I'm sorry but this post is semi-ridiculous. Those are not the numbers you need to contend, those are the numbers you need to be considered one of the best long drivers ever...

[Thrillhouse]

Swiss longdrivers are tired of the same line from golfers referring to us as roided out freaks using illegal equipment. You can't hit a ball 400+ yards I am not a scratch golfer but I am not blaming you for the set of irons you use. I use a 4* driver on a 3X shaft CPM about 279. I launch the ball around 11.8* with around 2100 spin you can probably spin a ball back on a green to 5 feet, I can not. If you can't do it, don't talk smack about those that can and bust our a$es to do so. Joke or not.

 

Swiss longdrivers?

 

I was going to reply to this, but I better stay neutral.

 

Thats clever, well done sir!

[isaacbm]

[quote name='Shwagin1066' timestamp='1324758052' post='3984153']
[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1318814160' post='3680969']
I've had the chance to get to know both Jamie Sadlowski and Jason Zubac and I'll give you a little insight into their launch numbers.
Just last week, Jason was on trackman at the RCGA golf center in Calgary. After a warmup, he started hitting a 45 inch driver. By 10 shots, he had it grooved pretty good and his average carry distance was 365. That's just carry. His launch was 12 and his spin was around1900. Then he went to the 48 inch driver and he was hitting the ball over 400 in the air time after time. He carried 2 in a row 415. That's carry!! His ball speed was 220. The amazing thing about Jason is how straight he hits it. He hit it within a 30 yard grid at 400 yards. And all of his longest hit's were very slight fades. That day, he hit about 50 balls till I left and I would say that 40 were in play and ten were semi hooks. Quite the site.

I'm not trying to discourage, I'm just saying that those are the numbers you need to contend....

Best wishes to you!
[/quote]

I'm sorry but this post is semi-ridiculous. Those are not the numbers you need to contend, those are the numbers you need to be considered one of the best long drivers ever...
[/quote]
You are right.... what I should have said: These are the numbers that a semi retired 40 something with a bum knee can put up while practicing. Of course there is no guarantee that Jason will put up these numbers in competition and the elevation in Calgary is higher than mesquite so the numbers are a little inflated but my point was just to show what a guy might be up against.

To use your words, watching Jason is "semi-ridiculous."

I guess I should have just said:" you can do anything you put your little heart into!!!!!"

[tembolo1284]

[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1324968441' post='3991473']
[quote name='Shwagin1066' timestamp='1324758052' post='3984153']
[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1318814160' post='3680969']
I've had the chance to get to know both Jamie Sadlowski and Jason Zubac and I'll give you a little insight into their launch numbers.
Just last week, Jason was on trackman at the RCGA golf center in Calgary. After a warmup, he started hitting a 45 inch driver. By 10 shots, he had it grooved pretty good and his average carry distance was 365. That's just carry. His launch was 12 and his spin was around1900. Then he went to the 48 inch driver and he was hitting the ball over 400 in the air time after time. He carried 2 in a row 415. That's carry!! His ball speed was 220. The amazing thing about Jason is how straight he hits it. He hit it within a 30 yard grid at 400 yards. And all of his longest hit's were very slight fades. That day, he hit about 50 balls till I left and I would say that 40 were in play and ten were semi hooks. Quite the site.

I'm not trying to discourage, I'm just saying that those are the numbers you need to contend....

Best wishes to you!
[/quote]

I'm sorry but this post is semi-ridiculous. Those are not the numbers you need to contend, those are the numbers you need to be considered one of the best long drivers ever...
[/quote]
You are right.... what I should have said: These are the numbers that a semi retired 40 something with a bum knee can put up while practicing. Of course there is no guarantee that Jason will put up these numbers in competition and the elevation in Calgary is higher than mesquite so the numbers are a little inflated but my point was just to show what a guy might be up against.

To use your words, watching Jason is "semi-ridiculous."

I guess I should have just said:" you can do anything you put your little heart into!!!!!"
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