New Wilson Staff 50 Elite ball on TGW website

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  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,244 ✭✭


    https://www.tgw.com/...lite-golf-balls



    $14.99 Colors look good !!




    Nice! This is why you never buy balls in bulk. There's always a nice new ball you want to try. Looks like it will be a great winter ball. Love the white and Wilson Shield.
  • spartanglfrspartanglfr Members Posts: 373 ✭✭
    The 50 has been a pretty popular ball among a lot of folks here because it is a good ball at a good price, and I'm curious how people like the new (and improved??) version. It's only been available for a couple days but I look forward to some opinions about the ball !
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon A in golf theory, D- in golf practical HertfordshireMembers Posts: 225 ✭✭
    Anyone managed to try this against the old one yet?

    11.5 - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R  @ 44.5" [long T]
    15 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @ 42.5" - D2.5 [safe T]
    20 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 41.5" - D2 [long fairway]
    23.5 - Fairway - F7 - Fujuka Pro 65 S (butt trimmed) @ 40.5 D1.5 [safe fairway]
    27 - Hybrid - Big Bertha OS - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 38.5" D1.5
    32 & 36 - hybiron / 40 & 45 - cavity back - Adams Idea ('14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    50/ 54 / 58 / 64 - wedges - Cleveland CB 2.0 * 2 / Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 s / Callaway Sure Out
    Odyssey O’Works 2 Ball fang - MAGNA supersoft – Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag
    90-95 Driver swing speed (up 10mph from last year)

  • the bishopthe bishop Members Posts: 3,294 ✭✭
    According to TGW's site they are on order and expected to ship 2/1
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    TM M1 Tour Issue 14*  Maltby ProSeries Fwy- S
    Maltby KE-4 Tour 19*/23*  Kuro Kage Blk 80hy - S
    W/S Fi5 5-P  DGS300
    W/S FG Tour RAW 52/56/60  KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
    Scotty Newport Pro Platinum
  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,952 ✭✭
    Is this a matte finish ?

    Driver: PXG Gen 2 0811 XF 14*
    FW: Ping G400 SFT 5w
    Hybrids: Exotics XRail 23*/26*
    Irons: Ping G700 6-UW
    Wedges: Cleveland CBX 56*/60* - Callaway Sure Out 64*
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne H


  • the bishopthe bishop Members Posts: 3,294 ✭✭
    erock9174 wrote:


    Is this a matte finish ?


    Since Wilson doesn't specify matte finish in the product description I'd guess no. As opposed to the Duo Professional the colored versions are described as matte on their website.
    Dynacraft Avatar Evolution  V2 High Launch - S
    TM M1 Tour Issue 14*  Maltby ProSeries Fwy- S
    Maltby KE-4 Tour 19*/23*  Kuro Kage Blk 80hy - S
    W/S Fi5 5-P  DGS300
    W/S FG Tour RAW 52/56/60  KBS Hi-Rev 2.0
    Scotty Newport Pro Platinum
  • SimpSimp Members Posts: 2,908 ✭✭
    I like the regular Duo over the 50 Elite. I felt that the Elite punished mishits more than the Duo. It also felt a little too soft for my liking. YMMV.
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    VSteel 13°
    Adams Idea Pro 20°
    Adams Idea Pro 23°
    Mizuno MP18 SC's Fli-Hi 4&5
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    TaylorMade Spider Mini
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon A in golf theory, D- in golf practical HertfordshireMembers Posts: 225 ✭✭
    Isn't the duo lower compression?

    11.5 - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R  @ 44.5" [long T]
    15 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @ 42.5" - D2.5 [safe T]
    20 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 41.5" - D2 [long fairway]
    23.5 - Fairway - F7 - Fujuka Pro 65 S (butt trimmed) @ 40.5 D1.5 [safe fairway]
    27 - Hybrid - Big Bertha OS - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 38.5" D1.5
    32 & 36 - hybiron / 40 & 45 - cavity back - Adams Idea ('14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    50/ 54 / 58 / 64 - wedges - Cleveland CB 2.0 * 2 / Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 s / Callaway Sure Out
    Odyssey O’Works 2 Ball fang - MAGNA supersoft – Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag
    90-95 Driver swing speed (up 10mph from last year)

  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Allez Allez Allez Minnesota, USAMembers Posts: 6,370 ✭✭


    Isn't the duo lower compression?




    Indeed. And not just a slight difference
    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver: Cobra King LTD, ProtoPype 80x or RIP 80x, 43.5" -or- SuperDeep 9.5*, ProtoPype 80x or NV85x, 43.5"
    3w: Cobra King LTD, Motore F1 85 X, 42.5"
    2h:  TM Stage 2 Tour, Nv105 stiff -or- 1 iron: Maxfli Revolution, DGS400
    2-PW, Golden Ram Tour Grind, Dynamic S
    SW: Ram Tour Grind Feel Matched 58*, DGS
    Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.5", PP58 midsize grip
    (Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35" -or- Mizuno TPM-2, 35" as backups)
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar/ZStar XV, Snell MTB Black... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time
    Shoes by True Linkswear
  • HertsjoatmonHertsjoatmon A in golf theory, D- in golf practical HertfordshireMembers Posts: 225 ✭✭
    I'm interested on the cover of the new ones more than anything else. What made the older 50 elite so good was its ability to hold the green a little better than other cheap balls, might have just been my perception but the cover had an almost sticky / tacky quality to it. Distance was average, feel was ok, but it seems to spin, not to urethane levels, but good for the price.

    11.5 - Driver - Callaway GBB (animal style) - Speeder 665 R  @ 44.5" [long T]
    15 - Mini Dr - Bertha Mini 1.5 - Motore 70 R @ 42.5" - D2.5 [safe T]
    20 - Fairway - Big Bertha - Kuru Kage Silver 70 R @ 41.5" - D2 [long fairway]
    23.5 - Fairway - F7 - Fujuka Pro 65 S (butt trimmed) @ 40.5 D1.5 [safe fairway]
    27 - Hybrid - Big Bertha OS - Kuru Kage Silver 80 R 38.5" D1.5
    32 & 36 - hybiron / 40 & 45 - cavity back - Adams Idea ('14) - Ping AWT 2.0 R - D3
    50/ 54 / 58 / 64 - wedges - Cleveland CB 2.0 * 2 / Cleveland Smart Sole 3.0 s / Callaway Sure Out
    Odyssey O’Works 2 Ball fang - MAGNA supersoft – Sun Mountain Combo Cart / Bag
    90-95 Driver swing speed (up 10mph from last year)

  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,244 ✭✭
    edited Feb 24, 2019 8:56am #12


    The 50 has been a pretty popular ball among a lot of folks here because it is a good ball at a good price, and I'm curious how people like the new (and improved??) version. It's only been available for a couple days but I look forward to some opinions about the ball !




    +1 Anyone game the new ones, they are coming out in great colors. It doesn't appear to be in matte.



    https://www.tgw.com/...wE&gclsrc=aw.ds
  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,952 ✭✭
    Tanner25 wrote:



    The 50 has been a pretty popular ball among a lot of folks here because it is a good ball at a good price, and I'm curious how people like the new (and improved??) version. It's only been available for a couple days but I look forward to some opinions about the ball !




    +1 Anyone game the new ones, they are coming out in great colors. It doesn't appear to be in matte.



    [url="https://www.tgw.com/wilson-staff-50-elite-golf-balls?SITE_ID=A2004&CID=PLA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI05G5xsLU4AIVwlcNCh2k0QdQEAQYAiABEgKHbfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds"]https://www.tgw.com/...wE&gclsrc=aw.ds[/url]


    My local shop has them in. Definitely not matte. Very glossy and bright. Remind me in looks of the Volvik Crystal.

    Driver: PXG Gen 2 0811 XF 14*
    FW: Ping G400 SFT 5w
    Hybrids: Exotics XRail 23*/26*
    Irons: Ping G700 6-UW
    Wedges: Cleveland CBX 56*/60* - Callaway Sure Out 64*
    Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne H


  • Xdmike20Xdmike20 Members Posts: 99 ✭✭

    The DUO soft are the really low ones. The regular Duo are 55 compression compared to the elite 50

    DRIVER- Cobra LTD (Ozik Black Tie)[/font][/color]
    3 WOOD- Cobra Fly-Z (Ozik White Tie)[/font][/color]
    HYBRID- Cobra Bio Cell (19* Project X)[/font][/color]
    IRONS- Cobra Pro CB 2008 (Soft stepped PX6.0)[/font][/color]
    GAP- Vokey SM4 50*[/font][/color]
    SAND- Vokey SM5 54* S grind[/font][/color]
    LOB- Vokey SM5 58* S grind[/font][/color]
    PUTTER- Odyssey O-works 1W red[/font][/color]
    BALL- Nike RZN Tour Platinum(until my stash is gone)[/font][/color]
  • arbeckarbeck SeattleMembers Posts: 408 ✭✭

    @Xdmike20 said:
    The DUO soft are the really low ones. The regular Duo are 55 compression compared to the elite 50

    The regular Duo is the Duo soft, they just renamed them last year. They are 29 compression. The Duo Spin is 35 compression. The Duo Urethane was 55 compression but it has been replaced by the Duo Professional which is 60 compression.

    Keep in mind that there is no industry standard for compression though, and it's really hard to compare compression numbers from one company to the next.

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    King Cobra F7 10.5* w/ Mitsubishi Tensi CK Blue 60 set at 9.5*
    TEE E8 4W, 7W
    Mizuno JPX-900 Hot Metal 5-SW w/ Veylix Alpina 873
    TEE CB PROs 60*
    Scotty Cameron Squareback
  • TKSTKS Members Posts: 209 ✭✭

    The Pro is a seriously good ball for those that enjoy a softer feeling urethane ball. they fixed some of the issues with their cover getting dingy and the short game touch shots are more consistent than the "U" also has more spin around the greens. I find it to be mid trajectory low spin off the driver - nice penetrating flight. Durable. I like the white, the other colors are nice options to have I could take or leave the matte.

    All Wishon, all the time:
    919THI 11* Black Driver, Red Shaft - S
    919F/D, Black Shaft
    775 18* hyb, Interflexx Shaft
    590 4iron, Black hybd Shaft
    5-SW Sterlings S300's
    PCF Micro 58*
    S2R #5 putter Double Bend Shaft
    Softer Urethane balls - too many to list
  • Xdmike20Xdmike20 Members Posts: 99 ✭✭

    The only issue I have with the pro is the price. Over $40/dz is a bit high for a wilson ball in my opinion. I have played Titleist my whole life until the RZN tour Platinum came out. Now, I did hit the Duo soft this past weekend and was really surprised. Granted, it was only 50 out so I am sure that helped as I was still able to hit my distances that I normally do with my RZN tour Platinum. My first iron shot was a towering baby draw around a tree that dropped right down and stuck about a foot from its pitch mark. I will be curious to see what it does once it gets warmer but for right now its a **** of a ball.

    DRIVER- Cobra LTD (Ozik Black Tie)[/font][/color]
    3 WOOD- Cobra Fly-Z (Ozik White Tie)[/font][/color]
    HYBRID- Cobra Bio Cell (19* Project X)[/font][/color]
    IRONS- Cobra Pro CB 2008 (Soft stepped PX6.0)[/font][/color]
    GAP- Vokey SM4 50*[/font][/color]
    SAND- Vokey SM5 54* S grind[/font][/color]
    LOB- Vokey SM5 58* S grind[/font][/color]
    PUTTER- Odyssey O-works 1W red[/font][/color]
    BALL- Nike RZN Tour Platinum(until my stash is gone)[/font][/color]
  • arbeckarbeck SeattleMembers Posts: 408 ✭✭

    @Xdmike20 said:
    The only issue I have with the pro is the price. Over $40/dz is a bit high for a wilson ball in my opinion. I have played Titleist my whole life until the RZN tour Platinum came out. Now, I did hit the Duo soft this past weekend and was really surprised. Granted, it was only 50 out so I am sure that helped as I was still able to hit my distances that I normally do with my RZN tour Platinum. My first iron shot was a towering baby draw around a tree that dropped right down and stuck about a foot from its pitch mark. I will be curious to see what it does once it gets warmer but for right now its a **** of a ball.

    I definitely agree about $40 price point the Duo-U was at last year. But the Duo Pro is $34.99 a dozen. That's the same price as the Bridgestone RXS and the Taylor Made Project(a). It's $5 more than the Q Star Tour. It's the same price (and a better ball) than the Titleist Tour Soft, and $5 cheaper than the Callaway ERC Soft. I think $29.99 would have been a better price point, but I can't say that the price is unfair given the other balls priced in that class.

    Ping Traverse
    King Cobra F7 10.5* w/ Mitsubishi Tensi CK Blue 60 set at 9.5*
    TEE E8 4W, 7W
    Mizuno JPX-900 Hot Metal 5-SW w/ Veylix Alpina 873
    TEE CB PROs 60*
    Scotty Cameron Squareback
  • NRJyzrNRJyzr Allez Allez Allez Minnesota, USAMembers Posts: 6,370 ✭✭

    @arbeck said:

    @Xdmike20 said:
    The only issue I have with the pro is the price. Over $40/dz is a bit high for a wilson ball in my opinion. I have played Titleist my whole life until the RZN tour Platinum came out. Now, I did hit the Duo soft this past weekend and was really surprised. Granted, it was only 50 out so I am sure that helped as I was still able to hit my distances that I normally do with my RZN tour Platinum. My first iron shot was a towering baby draw around a tree that dropped right down and stuck about a foot from its pitch mark. I will be curious to see what it does once it gets warmer but for right now its a **** of a ball.

    I definitely agree about $40 price point the Duo-U was at last year. But the Duo Pro is $34.99 a dozen. That's the same price as the Bridgestone RXS and the Taylor Made Project(a). It's $5 more than the Q Star Tour. It's the same price (and a better ball) than the Titleist Tour Soft, and $5 cheaper than the Callaway ERC Soft. I think $29.99 would have been a better price point, but I can't say that the price is unfair given the other balls priced in that class.

    If you adjust old school mid level ball prices (like Precept MC Spin around $24/doz) for inflation, you get that $35 price the Duo Pro sits at.

    Seems reasonable.

    The Ever Changing Bag!

    Driver: Cobra King LTD, ProtoPype 80x or RIP 80x, 43.5" -or- SuperDeep 9.5*, ProtoPype 80x or NV85x, 43.5"
    3w: Cobra King LTD, Motore F1 85 X, 42.5"
    2h:  TM Stage 2 Tour, Nv105 stiff -or- 1 iron: Maxfli Revolution, DGS400
    2-PW, Golden Ram Tour Grind, Dynamic S
    SW: Ram Tour Grind Feel Matched 58*, DGS
    Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.5", PP58 midsize grip
    (Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35" -or- Mizuno TPM-2, 35" as backups)
    Balls: in no particular order... Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar/ZStar XV, Snell MTB Black... will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time
    Shoes by True Linkswear
  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,244 ✭✭

    Let's stay on topic, new-wilson-staff-50-elite-ball

    The ball used to have an epic thread, now few are commenting. I guess we are in a 3-5 piece urethane WRX world.

  • ghoul31ghoul31 Members Posts: 463 ✭✭

    @Tanner25 said:
    Let's stay on topic, new-wilson-staff-50-elite-ball

    The ball used to have an epic thread, now few are commenting. I guess we are in a 3-5 piece urethane WRX world.

    50 compression is dated
    30 compression is the thing now

  • Xdmike20Xdmike20 Members Posts: 99 ✭✭

    @Tanner25 said:
    Let's stay on topic, new-wilson-staff-50-elite-ball

    The ball used to have an epic thread, now few are commenting. I guess we are in a 3-5 piece urethane WRX world.

    We have a golf room at my local YMCA that has a net and a couple mats. I bought a dozen of the 50's to use in the golf room and they are great for there during the winter months when I can't get outside

    DRIVER- Cobra LTD (Ozik Black Tie)[/font][/color]
    3 WOOD- Cobra Fly-Z (Ozik White Tie)[/font][/color]
    HYBRID- Cobra Bio Cell (19* Project X)[/font][/color]
    IRONS- Cobra Pro CB 2008 (Soft stepped PX6.0)[/font][/color]
    GAP- Vokey SM4 50*[/font][/color]
    SAND- Vokey SM5 54* S grind[/font][/color]
    LOB- Vokey SM5 58* S grind[/font][/color]
    PUTTER- Odyssey O-works 1W red[/font][/color]
    BALL- Nike RZN Tour Platinum(until my stash is gone)[/font][/color]
  • Tanner25Tanner25 Members Posts: 6,244 ✭✭
    edited Apr 18, 2019 11:22pm #23

    @ghoul31 said:

    @Tanner25 said:
    Let's stay on topic, new-wilson-staff-50-elite-ball

    The ball used to have an epic thread, now few are commenting. I guess we are in a 3-5 piece urethane WRX world.

    50 compression is dated
    30 compression is the thing now

    It's a matter of preference. At one time, I liked a very soft ball. Like the Softfli (29 compression) and SS. Now, a mid compression ball in the 50's to 60 (Bridgestone ExtraSoft or Soft Feel) is preferred in the winter and a little firmer in the summer, like a QST.

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