True Game Changer.....2019 Aldila Rogue 130 Tour TX Line Up. Trackman Data and Analysis

[TollBros]

> @Trying4Better said:

> > @TollBros said:

> > > @MakersMarsh3 said:

> > > Any updated thoughts coming? @TollBros

> >

> > I'm still playing it in driver and 3 wood and haven't seen any reason to switch to anything else in my playing set at this point. I'm not a big switcher of my personal equipment though. I like to stick with what works and what I can count on. I do have some thoughts on something new coming tomorrow though.

> Hey are we going to get any info on the Proto RIP?

>

 

Just put up photos today. Info and data coming shortly after.

[MakersMarsh3]

@TollBros

What are you seeing from the 130 Black vs the Tour Blue 2019?? Are guys sticking with one vs the other?

[TollBros]

> @MakersMarsh3 said:

> @TollBros

> What are you seeing from the 130 Black vs the Tour Blue 2019?? Are guys sticking with one vs the other

 

ATX Tour Blue Graphene?

[MakersMarsh3]

> @TollBros said:

> > @MakersMarsh3 said:

> > @TollBros

> > What are you seeing from the 130 Black vs the Tour Blue 2019?? Are guys sticking with one vs the other

>

> ATX Tour Blue Graphene?

 

Yessir

[TollBros]

> @MakersMarsh3 said:

> > @TollBros said:

> > > @MakersMarsh3 said:

> > > @TollBros

> > > What are you seeing from the 130 Black vs the Tour Blue 2019?? Are guys sticking with one vs the other

> >

> > ATX Tour Blue Graphene?

>

> Yessir

 

The black spins less than ATX blue for most players. We've mostly seen players go black in the fairway and white in the driver. Same with ATX blue. It has been mostly a 3 wood shaft choice.

[TollBros]

> @Putn4par1 said:

> How sensitive is the Rogue Silver 130 to tipping? I am currently playing a Tensei CK Pro Orange tipped 3/4 of an inch. Would the the Rogue Silver 130 respond similarly with tipping it 3/4 of an inch?

 

Both are quite tip stiff shafts. If you like the Pro Orange where it is, and the weights are the same, you can safely go the same with Rogue Silver.

[sdsarmaduk]

Guys

where did you buy your 130 white from?

I am looking to buy one, but no luck finding a seller yet :(

Thx

[hurley999s]

???

uhh...you’re right here in his thread. Tollbros is a sponsor here. Try reading the thread.

[Club Guru]

Where can the White 130 be purchased? I’m not seeing it anywhere online.

[hurley999s]

Did you not read the first post in this thread? The very first one. Seriously...

[Club Guru]

I clicked on the link in the first post multiple time and it comes up as webpage unavailable. Is the link working for you?

[hurley999s]

Send user TollBros (sponsor) a PM and go from there

[noodle3872]

 

Try this thread https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1750204/aldila-rogue-130msi-lineup-white-black-and-silver

[Club Guru]

Thx

[TollBros]

Simply DM me and we can get you set up.

[hurley999s]

@TollBros whats the deal with the Rogue white shaft in the Cally Mavrik? Is it real deal or a made-for? I was shocked when I saw it was a stock offering.

[mizuno player]

I talked to Toll about White on the Aldila site.

The TX that Toll sells has a stiffer tip and the "better high grade " materials throughout. I assume from this lower launch and spin.

I'm sure Toll will chime in.

 

 

[Russ757]

Would the black 130 be the logical progression from a rogue black 95? I know those weren't the tour end but they just worked with my swing and looking to toy with the driver.

[TollBros]

Yes the TX is tour only. Stiffer tip, higher concentration of exotic materials, lower spin, etc. Companies will always capitalize on a products momentum to offer a version for OEM usage. The Rogue in Callaway product is an excellent shaft, but not exactly the same as the Tour TX version.

 

The Tour version also has laser etched graphics where the base models are simply screened on.

[Darth_Fader]

Is the 130 white offered as a stock shaft in the Mavrik line the same as the $350 MSRP aftermarket retail shaft?

 

apart from being X flex vs TX, how else does this differ (if at all) from the TX model you’re testing?

 

thanks!

[Kale_m]

higher end materials

stiffer more stable tip section

overall higher quality

 

most probably won’t notice a difference

[Darth_Fader]

So they perform/feel very similarly?

[Kale_m]

If your striping it on the button every time you might be able to See some difference. But most amateurs are not consistent enough to tell a noticeable difference.

the tx is more stable and might feel stiffer due to the use of the high end materials.

 

[TollBros]

I answered this exact question one post above yours. TX is tour only, lower spin and launch, stiffer tip, firmer overall profile, higher concentration of certain materials, etc. The TX also has higher end laser etched graphics. There is nothing wrong at all with the subflexes and they are certainly better suited for the average player than the TX version, as that profile is designed for Tour and better players. Go hit the retail version and decide if you need something more stable and lower spin. If you do, go TX. If you don't, then go with the sub flex. Just because something is Tour only doesn't mean it's somehow better for every player. It just suits a different type of player and need.

[hurley999s]

Hopefully not beating a dead horse - just to a clarify another point this made me think of. I’m clear on the TX vs subflexes, but are those retail/sub-flexes the same version that’s now available as one of the options for the Callaway Mavrik?
basically what I’m getting at is are there now 3 categories of 130 White?
TX (rarest, specific materials, firmest) - Tour only (or via @TollBros ) Retail/sub-flexes (similar to TX, but slightly different materials, different firmness/flex options). I see these retail for $350Mavrik shaft - is it different from #2 above? Ie, is it a “made-for” with lesser materials and totally different profile? Or did Callaway put a $350 retail shaft in their new driver?

[Golfingfanatic]

The Mavrik shaft is the one that retails for 350$ and is on the aldila website. 130 MSI. R,S,X flex.

[TollBros]

I haven't seen the aftermarket sub flexes yet. I don't know why people keep saying similar on the TX. I never said that. It's a different profile made for Tour. What I said is the sub flexes are much better suited for the average player and the TX is more suited for higher speeds and players who need lower spin and launch. If you see Rogue White as an uocharge upgrade in any OEM club, you can be assured it's the same as the $350 retail version. This thread is a review of the TX Tour profile. If you'd like one, feel free to DM me.

 

 

 

[hurley999s]

I already have 2, a 60TX and 70TX. When I said similar I meant they’re both higher end/aftermarket/expensive - however you want to look at it. In my previous post, for the subflexes, I specified different materials and firmness/flex. Apparently I omitted the word “profile” in that description which is your bone of contention. So yes I’m clear it’s a different profile.

However the question was really to differentiate what I thought would be a third offering since 130 White is a STOCK shaft with Mavrik, not an upgrade option.

I’m fully aware this is a review thread of the TX. Considering I have 2 and they were both expensive, I was simply asking a question about how it compares to the new retail/subflexes *and also* to the one in Mavrik.

You answered previously about the retail/subflexes so I’m clear on that.

I am now asking about the one that comes with Mavrik. To be clear - this is NOT an up charge shaft. It’s a stock option. I thought you would’ve been aware of that. See attachment.

So as an owner of TX, I’m simply asking a question about whether there are one or two NEW classes/ranges of 130 White since I find it hard to believe Callaway would include a $350 retail shaft as a stock option. And unlike other manufacturers, Aldila doesn’t make obvious graphical differences so I’m unsure if that is separate now from the new retail/subflexes. I cannot pick out details of laser etching or any other minuscule differences from available pictures.

Seems to me to be a pretty relevant question to pose in the review thread as I’m sure others are interested as well.

[Golfingfanatic]

@hurley999s
From all I've read the stock shaft in the mavrik is the 350$ shaft. The Callaway guys briefly talk about it in the fitting room podcast on their YouTube, so you might want to check that out.

[hurley999s]

Ok cool. That’s all I was asking. Appreciate the info!