All Things Michigan Golf....the Mulligan (MOD EDIT: NO POLITICS, NO COVID-19, NO ECONOMICS)

[AlecEmersonGolf]

first tournament of the year tomorrow at detroit golf club

[flintof1]

[quote name='AlecEmersonGolf' timestamp='1428886926' post='11343955']first tournament of the year tomorrow at detroit golf club[/quote]

GLWT

[Sweet]

Lochenheath opens friday ...59 for 18

[odshot68]

[quote name='Sweet' timestamp='1428956017' post='11350189']
Lochenheath opens friday ...59 for 18
[/quote]

Love that place. Great deal. Thanks Sweet!

[G-Bone]

I don't think I have mentioned this here:

I have an almost new (never has been on the golf course, just Trackman) Ping G30 LS Tec 9º driver with Tour 65 stiff shaft on BST right now for $300 shipped,if anyone is interested.

Get it while the getting is good!

[odshot68]

[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428961002' post='11350783']
I don't think I have mentioned this here:

I have an almost new (never has been on the golf course, just Trackman) Ping G30 LS Tec 9º driver with Tour 65 stiff shaft on BST right now for $300 shipped,if anyone is interested.

Get it while the getting is good!
[/quote]
THAT WAS QUICK!! 3 jack is losing his fan base. What are you going with?

[G-Bone]

[quote name='odshot68' timestamp='1428961367' post='11350819']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428961002' post='11350783']
I don't think I have mentioned this here:

I have an almost new (never has been on the golf course, just Trackman) Ping G30 LS Tec 9º driver with Tour 65 stiff shaft on BST right now for $300 shipped,if anyone is interested.

Get it while the getting is good!
[/quote]
THAT WAS QUICK!! 3 jack is losing his fan base. What are you going with?
[/quote]

LOL.... Not so fast, OD!

G30 LS is FIRMLY in the bag!! Just had to get the right setup.... Which for me is 9º digitally lofted head with DI6. FLAT BOMB HEAVEN... With Forgiveness!!

[swizbeatz]

Tied my low round ever with the LS in the bag. I've been at or under par ~50% of my rounds. Its not all the driver but it's helping.

[MaxPower328]

[quote name='swizbeatz' timestamp='1428964518' post='11351153']
Tied my low round ever with the LS in the bag. I've been at or under par ~50% of my rounds. Its not all the driver but it's helping.
[/quote]

Nice! You registered for the Michigan Am qualifier? Gotta ride this hot streak.

[3_Jack_Par]

[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428962623' post='11350947']
[quote name='odshot68' timestamp='1428961367' post='11350819']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428961002' post='11350783']
I don't think I have mentioned this here:

I have an almost new (never has been on the golf course, just Trackman) Ping G30 LS Tec 9º driver with Tour 65 stiff shaft on BST right now for $300 shipped,if anyone is interested.

Get it while the getting is good!
[/quote]
THAT WAS QUICK!! 3 jack is losing his fan base. What are you going with?
[/quote]

LOL.... Not so fast, OD!

G30 LS is FRIMLY in the bag!! Just had to get the right setup.... Which for me is 9º digitally lofted head with DI6. FLAT BOMB HEAVEN... With Forgiveness!!
[/quote]
That's right, OD. We'll welcome you next month, too, once you come crawling back.

[swizbeatz]

[quote name='MaxPower328' timestamp='1428964868' post='11351185']
[quote name='swizbeatz' timestamp='1428964518' post='11351153']
Tied my low round ever with the LS in the bag. I've been at or under par ~50% of my rounds. Its not all the driver but it's helping.
[/quote]

Nice! You registered for the Michigan Am qualifier? Gotta ride this hot streak.
[/quote]

Not yet, probably will but I've got a lot of other events and have always played poorly in those in the past. Plus unlike a 1 day, you've potentially got a lot of time tied up. Home course has a qualifier so I should give it a go again.

[chickenpotpie]

[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428962623' post='11350947']
[quote name='odshot68' timestamp='1428961367' post='11350819']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428961002' post='11350783']
I don't think I have mentioned this here:

I have an almost new (never has been on the golf course, just Trackman) Ping G30 LS Tec 9º driver with Tour 65 stiff shaft on BST right now for $300 shipped,if anyone is interested.

Get it while the getting is good!
[/quote]
THAT WAS QUICK!! 3 jack is losing his fan base. What are you going with?
[/quote]

LOL.... Not so fast, OD!

G30 LS is FIRMLY in the bag!! Just had to get the right setup.... Which for me is 9º digitally lofted head with DI6. FLAT BOMB HEAVEN... With Forgiveness!!
[/quote]

I'll help you out....curious to see how this stacks up against the DBD. When I'm stroking it, that thing just goes (I've gotten a few "whoa's" from my regular group), but I've hit a couple squirrelly balls here and there too that have gotten similar reactions (and not for good reasons).

[swizbeatz]

[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1429014290' post='11354739']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428962623' post='11350947']
[quote name='odshot68' timestamp='1428961367' post='11350819']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428961002' post='11350783']
I don't think I have mentioned this here:

I have an almost new (never has been on the golf course, just Trackman) Ping G30 LS Tec 9º driver with Tour 65 stiff shaft on BST right now for $300 shipped,if anyone is interested.

Get it while the getting is good!
[/quote]
THAT WAS QUICK!! 3 jack is losing his fan base. What are you going with?
[/quote]

LOL.... Not so fast, OD!

G30 LS is FIRMLY in the bag!! Just had to get the right setup.... Which for me is 9º digitally lofted head with DI6. FLAT BOMB HEAVEN... With Forgiveness!!
[/quote]

I'll help you out....curious to see how this stacks up against the DBD. When I'm stroking it, that thing just goes (I've gotten a few "whoa's" from my regular group), but I've hit a couple squirrelly balls here and there too that have gotten similar reactions (and not for good reasons).
[/quote]

Length on the DBD? I'm @ 44.5" now but choke down over 1/2" easily. I was just thinking this morning how a 43.5" or even a little less might be fun to try. Actually I haven't missed the DI at all waiting for a g30 tip for it, maybe I'll chop that down and use it as a fairway shaft later if it doesn't work. Pass it around for anyone that wants to try something that short for the hell of it.

[G-Bone]

[quote name='chickenpotpie' timestamp='1429014290' post='11354739']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428962623' post='11350947']
[quote name='odshot68' timestamp='1428961367' post='11350819']
[quote name='G-Bone' timestamp='1428961002' post='11350783']
I don't think I have mentioned this here:

I have an almost new (never has been on the golf course, just Trackman) Ping G30 LS Tec 9º driver with Tour 65 stiff shaft on BST right now for $300 shipped,if anyone is interested.

Get it while the getting is good!
[/quote]
THAT WAS QUICK!! 3 jack is losing his fan base. What are you going with?
[/quote]

LOL.... Not so fast, OD!

G30 LS is FIRMLY in the bag!! Just had to get the right setup.... Which for me is 9º digitally lofted head with DI6. FLAT BOMB HEAVEN... With Forgiveness!!
[/quote]

I'll help you out....curious to see how this stacks up against the DBD. When I'm stroking it, that thing just goes (I've gotten a few "whoa's" from my regular group), but I've hit a couple squirrelly balls here and there too that have gotten similar reactions (and not for good reasons).
[/quote]

Well you may find what I found...

When I catch the DBD on the screws I hit some of the [u]longest[/u] drives of my life; and she feels like butter. But when you don't, think TM SuperDeep.

With G30 LS it really doesn't matter how I catch it, I continue to hit some of the [u]best[/u] drives of my life; and it feels like, um, trying to drive a garden shovel into concrete... I'm not a fan. But, for me, performance beats feel... At least for now. Ha!

[hill2285]

[quote name='Chrismydawg' timestamp='1428837244' post='11338639']
Played Island Hills in Centerville yesterday. Very little brown, the place looks to be in mid-season shape. The greens were actually quick.

#17
[attachment=2706229:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1428837205.741783.jpg]
[/quote]

If you think the greens were quick now, you should come back during the summer. They really speed them up, also i always thought that the green on 17 was pretty big. It is great shape for the time of the year.

[golfortennis]

So got to play with OW in a FSGA one-day event. Neither one of us played any level to write home about. My first round of the year, and the rust showed. Thankfully, I wanted only to get a bit of extra tournament nerve experience, and have a good day hanging out with OW. The second, as expected, was achieved.

OW hates the course we played, I'd need to play it a second time to get a real opinion. There were holes I would have hit 3 wood or hybrid off the tee if I knew.

But had a good day with OW, except for jamming my wrist on an approach shot. For those of you who haven't had the opportunity, try to play with him. He's certainly the same guy in person, if not better.

OK, enough mush. sparty sucks!! :-)

[HackerDave]

[quote name='hill2285' timestamp='1429027452' post='11356359']
[quote name='Chrismydawg' timestamp='1428837244' post='11338639']
Played Island Hills in Centerville yesterday. Very little brown, the place looks to be in mid-season shape. The greens were actually quick.

#17
[attachment=2706229:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1428837205.741783.jpg]
[/quote]

If you think the greens were quick now, you should come back during the summer. They really speed them up, also i always thought that the green on 17 was pretty big. It is great shape for the time of the year.
[/quote]

We were out that way this past weekend and I can't get over how much greener it is over there than near Detroit. We walked the dog along KLCC and it looked great! Looking forward to playing Island Hills again this summer.

[BillyZ2]

I have a question for any in-the-know golfers about how the handicap system works in tournament play.
[u][b]Scenerio #1[/b][/u]
10 hc player plays from the white tees (6000 yards)
2 hc player plays from the blue tees (6500 yards)

[u][b]Scenerio #2[/b][/u]
10 hc player plays from the Blue tees (6500 yards)
2 hc player plays from the white tees (6000 yards)

Question is: [b]In both cases can fair play be had regardless of a golfer's handicap, and the tee they play from? Does it matter what tee any golfer plays from if the golfer's hc and course hc are taken into calculation and done properly?[/b]

[knickerbocker]

A USGA index adjusted for the course slope and rating (if a different set of tees are being played) will make the match fair. I see a great deal of misunderstanding on using handicaps and when I set up tournaments and games. I often hear comments like I am an 18 and your a 3, so I get 15 strokes even though we are playing two sets of tees.

You need to adjust an index to a course handicap using the slope of the tee. If players are playing a different tee, then calculate each players handicap.

Then you need to factor in rating. If there is a difference in rating, then that should be factored in the match.

So I player A has a course handicap of 12 and is playing a rating of 70.5 and player B has a course handicap of 2 and is playing a rating of 73.5, then the actual handicap difference is only 7, not 10.

[BillyZ2]

[quote name='knickerbocker' timestamp='1429134968' post='11368345']
A USGA index adjusted for the course slope and rating (if a different set of tees are being played) will make the match fair. I see a great deal of misunderstanding on using handicaps and when I set up tournaments and games. I often hear comments like I am an 18 and your a 3, so I get 15 strokes even though we are playing two sets of tees.

You need to adjust an index to a course handicap using the slope of the tee. If players are playing a different tee, then calculate each players handicap.

Then you need to factor in rating. If there is a difference in rating, then that should be factored in the match.

So I player A has a course handicap of 12 and is playing a rating of 70.5 and player B has a course handicap of 2 and is playing a rating of 73.5, then the actual handicap difference is only 7, not 10.
[/quote]Thanks for the explanation Knick. So if calculated properly any hc golfer can play from any tee and still have fair play. Good to hear.

[O.D.underpar]

[quote name='Tom Gski' timestamp='1429129976' post='11367771']
I have a question for any in-the-know golfers about how the handicap system works in tournament play.
[u][b]Scenerio #1[/b][/u]
10 hc player plays from the white tees (6000 yards)
2 hc player plays from the blue tees (6500 yards)

[u][b]Scenerio #2[/b][/u]
10 hc player plays from the Blue tees (6500 yards)
2 hc player plays from the white tees (6000 yards)

Question is: [b]In both cases can fair play be had regardless of a golfer's handicap, and the tee they play from? Does it matter what tee any golfer plays from if the golfer's hc and course hc are taken into calculation and done properly?[/b]
[/quote]

The players don't have a specific handicap they have an index. Each set of tees have a rating. Use the players index and the rating for the tees they will play and work off of that. Now due to the nature of the handicap system the 2 index should have the advantage in the long run (especially from the shorter tees) but anything can happen on a given day.

[knickerbocker]

A course handicap is based on the slope. Use this to create a course handicap.

http://www.usga.org/course-handicap-calculator.html

Higher handicaps have more adjustment for slope than lower.

[BillyZ2]

Here is a situation, based on the rating of Indianwood GC, for 12hc vs 2hc, according to the calculator. I think they are right, and the course rating is used for Option #2.

Gold Tees
6740yards, slope = 140, rating = 73.6
2 hc , course hc = 2
12 hc , course hc = 15

White Tees
5544 yards, slope = 123, rating = 68.8
2 hc, course hc = 2
12 hc, course hc = 13

Option #1
So if both golfers are playing the same tees, the 12 hc golfer would get 13 strokes from the Golds, or 11 from the whites.

Optionn #2
If the 2 hc golfer is playing the Golds and the 12 hc is playing the whites, the 12 hc would get only 6 strokes.

[Openwater22]

Playing the Palmetto Club in Aiken, S.C. tomorrow. 6 miles from Augusta.

ITW, proud owner of a new set of B'Stone cavity backs. Let's start a club to rival 3J's G30LS club. Should have them in about a week. Stock DG Pro's being pulled and Modus 120 stiff installed.

[dozer996]

[quote name='Openwater22' timestamp='1429146301' post='11369507']Playing the Palmetto Club in Aiken, S.C. tomorrow. 6 miles from Augusta.

ITW, proud owner of a new set of B'Stone cavity backs. Let's start a club to rival 3J's G30LS club. Should have them in about a week. Stock DG Pro's being pulled and Modus 120 stiff installed.[/quote]

You have Maize colored grips?

[3_Jack_Par]

[quote name='Openwater22' timestamp='1429146301' post='11369507'] Let's start a club to rival 3J's G30LS club.
[/quote]
I smell a rumble!

[G-Bone]

[quote name='knickerbocker' timestamp='1429134968' post='11368345']
A USGA index adjusted for the course slope and rating (if a different set of tees are being played) will make the match fair. I see a great deal of misunderstanding on using handicaps and when I set up tournaments and games. I often hear comments like I am an 18 and your a 3, so I get 15 strokes even though we are playing two sets of tees.

You need to adjust an index to a course handicap using the slope of the tee. If players are playing a different tee, then calculate each players handicap.

Then you need to factor in rating. If there is a difference in rating, then that should be factored in the match.

So I player A has a course handicap of 12 and is playing a rating of 70.5 and player B has a course handicap of 2 and is playing a rating of 73.5, then the actual handicap difference is only 7, not 10.
[/quote]

This is exactly correct according to the USGA.

[G-Bone]

[quote name='Openwater22' timestamp='1429146301' post='11369507']
Playing the Palmetto Club in Aiken, S.C. tomorrow. 6 miles from Augusta.

ITW, proud owner of a new set of B'Stone cavity backs. Let's start a club to rival 3J's G30LS club. Should have them in about a week. Stock DG Pro's being pulled and Modus 120 stiff installed.
[/quote]

Nice!!

All you players and your exotic irons...

All I want is some new JPX 850 Forged... They make a hack like me feel like a 'playa'!

[hill2285]

[quote name='HackerDave' timestamp='1429100610' post='11363077']
[quote name='hill2285' timestamp='1429027452' post='11356359']
[quote name='Chrismydawg' timestamp='1428837244' post='11338639']
Played Island Hills in Centerville yesterday. Very little brown, the place looks to be in mid-season shape. The greens were actually quick.

#17
[attachment=2706229:ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1428837205.741783.jpg]
[/quote]

If you think the greens were quick now, you should come back during the summer. They really speed them up, also i always thought that the green on 17 was pretty big. It is great shape for the time of the year.
[/quote]

We were out that way this past weekend and I can't get over how much greener it is over there than near Detroit. We walked the dog along KLCC and it looked great! Looking forward to playing Island Hills again this summer.
[/quote]

That is good to hear that Klinger is in good shape as well. I have an outing there coming up.

[Openwater22]

[quote name='dozer996' timestamp='1429152203' post='11370165']
[quote name='Openwater22' timestamp='1429146301' post='11369507']Playing the Palmetto Club in Aiken, S.C. tomorrow. 6 miles from Augusta.

ITW, proud owner of a new set of B'Stone cavity backs. Let's start a club to rival 3J's G30LS club. Should have them in about a week. Stock DG Pro's being pulled and Modus 120 stiff installed.[/quote]

You have Maize colored grips?
[/quote]
They're yellow, or should I say, used to be yellow. Still time to change, not being built till this weekend.