True Temper's new "AMT" Dynamic Gold iron shafts

[jylos]

[quote name='poppman2142' timestamp='1440474847' post='12203406']
Are these weights being talked about raw uncut weights? Or are they cut weights? What is the weight for a raw uncut s400 amt 3 iron shaft?
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A raw uncut X100 AMT 3 iron 40 inch shaft weighs 113 grams. S400 shaft should be 1-2 grams heavier than this.

[bailman]

There are a few sets on flea bay

[jylos]

I have a question. From the information about AMT shaft, butt end of the longer iron shafts are thinned to maintain constant swing weight and tip stiffness. Does this mean that the longer shafts are softer than regular DG shaft CPMwise?

[appilags]

Wall thickness is only one factor that contributes to stiffness. Material treatment and tube diameter also play their part. Tube diameter in particular being important.

[Maverick22]

[quote name='jylos' timestamp='1440581656' post='12210502']
[quote name='poppman2142' timestamp='1440474847' post='12203406']
Are these weights being talked about raw uncut weights? Or are they cut weights? What is the weight for a raw uncut s400 amt 3 iron shaft?
[/quote]
A raw uncut X100 AMT 3 iron 40 inch shaft weighs 113 grams. S400 shaft should be 1-2 grams heavier than this.
[/quote]

What is the weight of raw uncut X100 AMT PW shaft? 130 g like regular X100? Or heavier? Once they are released, I am thinking of getting a set of X100 AMT softstepped either 1x or 2x and am wondering what the weight ranges of those sets would be?

[jylos]

[quote name='Maverick22' timestamp='1440646745' post='12216224']
[quote name='jylos' timestamp='1440581656' post='12210502']
[quote name='poppman2142' timestamp='1440474847' post='12203406']
Are these weights being talked about raw uncut weights? Or are they cut weights? What is the weight for a raw uncut s400 amt 3 iron shaft?
[/quote]
A raw uncut X100 AMT 3 iron 40 inch shaft weighs 113 grams. S400 shaft should be 1-2 grams heavier than this.
[/quote]

What is the weight of raw uncut X100 AMT PW shaft? 130 g like regular X100? Or heavier? Once they are released, I am thinking of getting a set of X100 AMT softstepped either 1x or 2x and am wondering what the weight ranges of those sets would be?
[/quote]

Please read my post. AMT shaft for PW is actually 36.5 inches long and weighs about 133 grams. 37 inches long AMT shaft has the same step patterns and weight as a regular DG shaft. I think we are in the same boat. I am using 6X shafts for drivers and DG X100 straight-in feels a little stiff for me.

[sheldonjhacker]

[quote name='jylos' timestamp='1440679903' post='12217264']
[quote name='Maverick22' timestamp='1440646745' post='12216224']
[quote name='jylos' timestamp='1440581656' post='12210502']
[quote name='poppman2142' timestamp='1440474847' post='12203406']
Are these weights being talked about raw uncut weights? Or are they cut weights? What is the weight for a raw uncut s400 amt 3 iron shaft?
[/quote]
A raw uncut X100 AMT 3 iron 40 inch shaft weighs 113 grams. S400 shaft should be 1-2 grams heavier than this.
[/quote]

What is the weight of raw uncut X100 AMT PW shaft? 130 g like regular X100? Or heavier? Once they are released, I am thinking of getting a set of X100 AMT softstepped either 1x or 2x and am wondering what the weight ranges of those sets would be?
[/quote]

Please read my post. AMT shaft for PW is actually 36.5 inches long and weighs about 133 grams. 37 inches long AMT shaft has the same step patterns and weight as a regular DG shaft. I am on the same boat as you. I am using 6X shafts for drivers and DG X100 straight-in feels a little stiff for me.
[/quote]
714 PW is 35.75 inches...and the 716 PW is 36.5 ???

[SwooshLT]

I think he means raw length uncut amt wedge is 36.5

[jylos]

[quote name='sheldonjhacker' timestamp='1440681625' post='12217406']
[quote name='jylos' timestamp='1440679903' post='12217264']
[quote name='Maverick22' timestamp='1440646745' post='12216224']
[quote name='jylos' timestamp='1440581656' post='12210502']
[quote name='poppman2142' timestamp='1440474847' post='12203406']
Are these weights being talked about raw uncut weights? Or are they cut weights? What is the weight for a raw uncut s400 amt 3 iron shaft?
[/quote]
A raw uncut X100 AMT 3 iron 40 inch shaft weighs 113 grams. S400 shaft should be 1-2 grams heavier than this.
[/quote]

What is the weight of raw uncut X100 AMT PW shaft? 130 g like regular X100? Or heavier? Once they are released, I am thinking of getting a set of X100 AMT softstepped either 1x or 2x and am wondering what the weight ranges of those sets would be?
[/quote]

Please read my post. AMT shaft for PW is actually 36.5 inches long and weighs about 133 grams. 37 inches long AMT shaft has the same step patterns and weight as a regular DG shaft. I am on the same boat as you. I am using 6X shafts for drivers and DG X100 straight-in feels a little stiff for me.
[/quote]
714 PW is 35.75 inches...and the 716 PW is 36.5 ???
[/quote]
I am talking about raw uncut shafts.

[SwooshLT]

Anyone else get these or try them out yet?

[Luke7]

[quote name=' SwooshLT' timestamp='1440969964' post='12235640']
Anyone else get these or try them out yet?
[/quote]

Been using them for 3-4 weeks. Great stuff. They really help spread out the yardages in the long irons. Was able to add a 3 iron with them because of the improved launch.

[stuart.f.cohen]

So if I am playing 714ap1 with stiff DL XP and I upgrade to the 716's, do I go with XP 115 or the AMT's?

[TMBob]

Saw these on all the new Titleist irons yesterday......very small shaft band compared to the one we see in this thread, which leads to the question to TT, regular version and a Tour Version like the std DG? Or is the version that we see in Tour the same as what's in the new irons? If their different, how so?

Thanks

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='TMBob' timestamp='1441249136' post='12255150']
Saw these on all the new Titleist irons yesterday......very small shaft band compared to the one we see in this thread, which leads to the question to TT, regular version and a Tour Version like the std DG? Or is the version that we see in Tour the same as what's in the new irons? If their different, how so?

Thanks
[/quote]Old news,

[SwooshLT]

[quote name='Luke7' timestamp='1441247945' post='12255050']
[quote name=' SwooshLT' timestamp='1440969964' post='12235640']
Anyone else get these or try them out yet?
[/quote]




Been using them for 3-4 weeks. Great stuff. They really help spread out the yardages in the long irons. Was able to add a 3 iron with them because of the improved launch.
[/quote]


Awesome stuff and thanks for the reply! The more I think about it, this concept only makes sense....

[DTown3011]

[quote name='TMBob' timestamp='1441249136' post='12255150']
Saw these on all the new Titleist irons yesterday......very small shaft band compared to the one we see in this thread, which leads to the question to TT, regular version and a Tour Version like the std DG? Or is the version that we see in Tour the same as what's in the new irons? If their different, how so?

Thanks
[/quote]

It's standard Dynamic Gold vs. Tour Issue Dynamic Gold. Same will apply with AMT. The Tour Issue shafts have a Tour Only weight tolerance of +/- .5 grams along with the screened shaftband.

[TMBob]

[quote name='DTown3011' timestamp='1441291978' post='12256856']
[quote name='TMBob' timestamp='1441249136' post='12255150']
Saw these on all the new Titleist irons yesterday......very small shaft band compared to the one we see in this thread, which leads to the question to TT, regular version and a Tour Version like the std DG? Or is the version that we see in Tour the same as what's in the new irons? If their different, how so?

Thanks
[/quote]

It's standard Dynamic Gold vs. Tour Issue Dynamic Gold. Same will apply with AMT. The Tour Issue shafts have a Tour Only weight tolerance of +/- .5 grams along with the screened shaftband.
[/quote]

Thanks DTown.....old news is now new news to me

[Luke7]

[quote name='TMBob' timestamp='1441294610' post='12257122']
[quote name='DTown3011' timestamp='1441291978' post='12256856']
[quote name='TMBob' timestamp='1441249136' post='12255150']
Saw these on all the new Titleist irons yesterday......very small shaft band compared to the one we see in this thread, which leads to the question to TT, regular version and a Tour Version like the std DG? Or is the version that we see in Tour the same as what's in the new irons? If their different, how so?

Thanks
[/quote]

It's standard Dynamic Gold vs. Tour Issue Dynamic Gold. Same will apply with AMT. The Tour Issue shafts have a Tour Only weight tolerance of +/- .5 grams along with the screened shaftband.
[/quote]

Thanks DTown.....old news is now new news to me
[/quote]

Lol come on man!! Get with it

[quietninja72]

I'd like to think the weight tolerances on the standard AMT will be a bit tighter than they are for the standard DG. I doubt it is, since the overall idea of the shaft would be preserved with the low irons having lighter shafts than the high irons/wedges, but it just seems to me that tolerances should be tighter on a product that's distinguishing feature is weight.

[ne26]

I 100% agree that weight tolerances should be tight. Would defeat the purpose if they are off a few grams here or there.

[MJisGOAT]

[quote name='ne26' timestamp='1441371283' post='12262338']
I 100% agree that weight tolerances should be tight. Would defeat the purpose if they are off a few grams here or there.
[/quote]Exactly, that's why the tour pro's get the nice white tour issue sticker and the hacks get the retail band.

[ne26]

Bow down to the almighty band.

[TrueTemper]

[quote name='quietninja72' timestamp='1441369404' post='12262206']
I'd like to think the weight tolerances on the standard AMT will be a bit tighter than they are for the standard DG. I doubt it is, since the overall idea of the shaft would be preserved with the low irons having lighter shafts than the high irons/wedges, but it just seems to me that tolerances should be tighter on a product that's distinguishing feature is weight.
[/quote]

Weight tolerances on retail AMT will be same as std DG +/- 1.89g which are still tighter than any non TT Tour Issue out there. Thankfully our gold mfg process and variable wall technology allows us to maintain these tolerances even within a non-constant weight design. One of our competitors is +/- 3.5g on everything and the other is +/- 5g.

Weight tolerances on AMT TI will be +/- .5g like DG TI.

TTS

[Chris92009]

Great info! Thank you!!

[mp29]

Any new tour players putting this shaft into play lately? Haven't seen any updates recently on tour uptake.

[SC-TX 88]

I'm confused with how the S400s will play. Will they be more so of a tweener shaft now flex wise between S and X, or will each one actually weigh more than their S and X counterpart and retain the heavier "feel". Either way very excited to try these out.

[SwooshLT]

[quote name='creedar' timestamp='1441418783' post='12265892']
Any new tour players putting this shaft into play lately? Haven't seen any updates recently on tour uptake.
[/quote]


The ones I've read......Scott,Dufner, DL3, Walker, Every, Hearn, DJ......

[ahbot]

I was able to hit my Tour Issue AMTs today. They are nice and solid. Long irons were much easier to swing which to me is the biggest and best difference. Mid-Short irons were good. Overall it's a good shaft. Paired up with my Srixon 745/945, its a solid set up.

[Orà leDude]

Does anybody know if True Temper has a testing center inside their company headquarters?

[stuart.f.cohen]

Does anyone know what the weight of a 5 iron shaft will be in a stiff AMT? is it correct that each club is 3grams lighter as you go through the set from the PW?