Does anyone know the way Adam Scott Reads greens?

[playa]

made me think "scruffy nerf herder" for some reason.... I just don't get this at all... suppose you have fat fingers? then what? miss them all? the putt doesn't know how big your hands are.... I would bet casting a spell before each round would give the same results...

If you learn Aimpoint from an actual Insteuctor registered to teach it , they calibrate you and give you your calibrations based on green speed and slope

They have registered instructors who actually get paid for teaching this method? Where do I sign up to get one of those certificates? Hell, I'll throw in plumb bobbing for no extra cost.

[MadGolfer76]

made me think "scruffy nerf herder" for some reason.... I just don't get this at all... suppose you have fat fingers? then what? miss them all? the putt doesn't know how big your hands are.... I would bet casting a spell before each round would give the same results...

If you learn Aimpoint from an actual Insteuctor registered to teach it , they calibrate you and give you your calibrations based on green speed and slope

They have registered instructors who actually get paid for teaching this method? Where do I sign up to get one of those certificates? Hell, I'll throw in plumb bobbing for no extra cost.

 

I could "register" someone to instruct others on my particular strategy of a**-scratching. I don't like how businesses use this language to sell a product or method because it implies a level of authenticity on the level of a state board. Kind of disingenuous.

[Cwing]

Jordan Spieth sometimes looks at the hole and sometimes does not. This is not common but he believes it is effective and it works for him. Just because you don't use it or that you do not see every player using it does not mean that there are not others using it across numerous tours with success.

 

They somehow use the process to show you the line on the tv screen as it is the same guy that came up with the method that developed the tech behind making the read line. A. Scott has won majors, L Ko is the #1 women's player or very close to it in the world. They both use it as do others and the method is relatively new.

[awil]

made me think "scruffy nerf herder" for some reason.... I just don't get this at all... suppose you have fat fingers? then what? miss them all? the putt doesn't know how big your hands are.... I would bet casting a spell before each round would give the same results...

If you learn Aimpoint from an actual Insteuctor registered to teach it , they calibrate you and give you your calibrations based on green speed and slope

They have registered instructors who actually get paid for teaching this method? Where do I sign up to get one of those certificates? Hell, I'll throw in plumb bobbing for no extra cost.

Mark Sweeney has the product semi locked down , as you have to learn through him to teach it.

http://www.aimpointgolf.com/findInstructor

[bladehunter]

made me think "scruffy nerf herder" for some reason.... I just don't get this at all... suppose you have fat fingers? then what? miss them all? the putt doesn't know how big your hands are.... I would bet casting a spell before each round would give the same results...

If you learn Aimpoint from an actual Insteuctor registered to teach it , they calibrate you and give you your calibrations based on green speed and slope

They have registered instructors who actually get paid for teaching this method? Where do I sign up to get one of those certificates? Hell, I'll throw in plumb bobbing for no extra cost.

 

Now this cracked me up. The lost art of plumb bobbing is how we will market that one !

[4Par]

I'll take Aimpoint Express over anybody squatting behind a ball, plumb bobbing, or relentlessly pacing around a green trying to find a line.... It's quick, effective, and far more accurate at predicting the correct line than any other manner of guessing.

 

Lets get a WRX letter together for all the top 10 putters on tour and demand that they stop "guessing" the break of their putts.

 

Or we could all have printed break books of all the courses we play and caddies that have seen each putt a dozen times or more.... I'm just trying to help the typical golfer... What are you adding?

[bullie76]

I refuse as a 64 year old to stand on the green with my fingers up in the air and looking stupid when the ball breaks in the opposite direction my fingers tell me it will.

 

 

 

The only time I put a finger up in the air is when I need someone to pull it. Come to think of it.......seems like my putting stroke is freed up after the pull.

[brtnsbs]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

[bladehunter]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

 

I hear what you are saying ....and im sure some instructors are pushing it... but much like see-more alignment aides and counter balance putters...they work...but neither are ever going to be used by a majority of better players... Most players aren't going to want that many thoughts in their head while on the green.... Im speaking of my opinion of course... but I just don't want to feel like I am balancing my checkbook while trying to roll a putt...and then there are the pace of play concerns... to calculate all this must be slower no? it sure seems it when watching Ko or scott work the system... to each their own I guess...but I just don't see this being any more popular than it is..

[brtnsbs]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

 

I hear what you are saying ....and im sure some instructors are pushing it... but much like see-more alignment aides and counter balance putters...they work...but neither are ever going to be used by a majority of better players... Most players aren't going to want that many thoughts in their head while on the green.... Im speaking of my opinion of course... but I just don't want to feel like I am balancing my checkbook while trying to roll a putt...and then there are the pace of play concerns... to calculate all this must be slower no? it sure seems it when watching Ko or scott work the system... to each their own I guess...but I just don't see this being any more popular than it is..

 

I'm confident that in the next 10-15 years that it will be normal on tour. It actually removes a lot of the thoughts, it gives you an exact spot to aim at. As for pace of play, its much faster than guys on tour reading the putt from behind, the side, behind the hole, the other side, behind the ball, etc.

[bladehunter]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

 

I hear what you are saying ....and im sure some instructors are pushing it... but much like see-more alignment aides and counter balance putters...they work...but neither are ever going to be used by a majority of better players... Most players aren't going to want that many thoughts in their head while on the green.... Im speaking of my opinion of course... but I just don't want to feel like I am balancing my checkbook while trying to roll a putt...and then there are the pace of play concerns... to calculate all this must be slower no? it sure seems it when watching Ko or scott work the system... to each their own I guess...but I just don't see this being any more popular than it is..

 

I'm confident that in the next 10-15 years that it will be normal on tour. It actually removes a lot of the thoughts, it gives you an exact spot to aim at. As for pace of play, its much faster than guys on tour reading the putt from behind, the side, behind the hole, the other side, behind the ball, etc.

 

 

 

let me ask this...if it is in deed so fast and easy why hasn't there been a sticky posted on these forums (instructional etc) detailing exactly how to do it ? This should be info that is shared.

[brtnsbs]

 

let me ask this...if it is in deed so fast and easy why hasn't there been a sticky posted on these forums (instructional etc) detailing exactly how to do it ? This should be info that is shared.

 

I have no idea?

[awil]

Blade here are some videos of routines I could find and some educational videos

I think the system itself is possibly Patended so teaching it on the forum for free could get wrx in trouble by promoting it and could strip the teacher off their license as well.

For me it's very simple , you feel a number in your feet train your feet that. Takes 10-15 seconds

Walk behind the ball and throw your Aimpoint number up .

(10-15 seconds )

Crouch down to line up my ball at the my Aimpoint

Stand up 2 practice swings and go

The first 40 seconds can be done while others are also reading their putts

 

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/918019-aimpoint-versus-vector-green-reading/

 

Here is Adam Scott's read

20seconds https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nA5Wugq6OOw

 

Here is Dustin reading his putts (3) without the first part of his first read . Excuse the commentator

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-A5cFSr5Dw

 

Spieth

 

Big cat

 

 

 

Last but not least here are some good APE videos

 

[playa]

made me think "scruffy nerf herder" for some reason.... I just don't get this at all... suppose you have fat fingers? then what? miss them all? the putt doesn't know how big your hands are.... I would bet casting a spell before each round would give the same results...

If you learn Aimpoint from an actual Insteuctor registered to teach it , they calibrate you and give you your calibrations based on green speed and slope

They have registered instructors who actually get paid for teaching this method? Where do I sign up to get one of those certificates? Hell, I'll throw in plumb bobbing for no extra cost.

 

Now this cracked me up. The lost art of plumb bobbing is how we will market that one !

I plumb bob every putt outside about 6 feet. Not sure if I couldn't get as good a read using other methods, but it has become part of my pre putt routine.

[legitimategolf]

In my opinion the most valuable part, the meat if you will of this Aimpoint ritual is the straddling of the line to give yourself a chance to perceive the break using your equilibrium. The rest of it is mostly branding (hey, how else could anyone make money off it?). Not to say it can't help people. I believe following a prescribed routine can be of help to those who lack confidence or focus while putting. But this idea that some system can teach people to perceive slopes more accurately, strains the limits of credibility.

[MadGolfer76]

I'll take Aimpoint Express over anybody squatting behind a ball, plumb bobbing, or relentlessly pacing around a green trying to find a line.... It's quick, effective, and far more accurate at predicting the correct line than any other manner of guessing.

 

Lets get a WRX letter together for all the top 10 putters on tour and demand that they stop "guessing" the break of their putts.

 

Or we could all have printed break books of all the courses we play and caddies that have seen each putt a dozen times or more.... I'm just trying to help the typical golfer... What are you adding?

 

I'm adding skepticism and a sober perspective, as opposed to drama and personal outrage.

[MadGolfer76]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

Where is this article, and who on tour has benefited from it specifically?

[Hawkeye77]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

Where is this article, and who on tour has benefited from it specifically?

 

E book you have to spend $10 to get, apparently.

[Hawkeye77]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

Where is this article, and who on tour has benefited from it specifically?

 

E book you have to spend $10 to get, apparently.

 

Spent the $10. Agree or disagree with some of Richie's ideas, there are lots of interesting numbers in there and ideas. Pleasantly surprised.

 

However, the very brief Aimpoint discussion about 8 players (one had no data for 2015), does NOT justify the claims in the quoted post. Only 4 showed improvement from '14 to '15, so false to say they improved year after year. Virtually all improved from when initially adopted, so some correlation there (not enough info for causation).

 

So as of the synopsis 7 active players out of how many? Hardly a trend.

 

Maybe '16 will show results from a few more.

[MadGolfer76]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

Where is this article, and who on tour has benefited from it specifically?

 

E book you have to spend $10 to get, apparently.

 

Spent the $10. Agree or disagree with some of Richie's ideas, there are lots of interesting numbers in there and ideas. Pleasantly surprised.

 

However, the very brief Aimpoint discussion about 8 players (one had no data for 2015), does NOT justify the claims in the quoted post. Only 4 showed improvement from '14 to '15, so false to say they improved year after year. Virtually all improved from when initially adopted, so some correlation there (not enough info for causation).

 

So as of the synopsis 7 active players out of how many? Hardly a trend.

 

Maybe '16 will show results from a few more.

 

Yeah, that is what I thought - too small a sample size to have any relevance. It's getting rather tiresome the kind of armchair data interpretation that's been taking place on this site, and the number people ready to believe anything just because someone claims they have "done research" is just as bad.

[4Par]

I'll take Aimpoint Express over anybody squatting behind a ball, plumb bobbing, or relentlessly pacing around a green trying to find a line.... It's quick, effective, and far more accurate at predicting the correct line than any other manner of guessing.

 

Lets get a WRX letter together for all the top 10 putters on tour and demand that they stop "guessing" the break of their putts.

 

Or we could all have printed break books of all the courses we play and caddies that have seen each putt a dozen times or more.... I'm just trying to help the typical golfer... What are you adding?

 

I'm adding skepticism and a sober perspective, as opposed to drama and personal outrage.

 

Fair enough... Lol....

[awil]

[brtnsbs]

Richie Jack, a writer for this very website, has done research that Aimpoint Express users on tour see a statistically significant improvement in putting year over year when moving to the Aimpoint Express system. He wrote about it in his annual golf synopsis. The system works and it improves putting performance. In 15 years its going to be all over the tour as kids coming up now are learning the system early and adopting it into their routines.

 

Where is this article, and who on tour has benefited from it specifically?

 

His annual E-book.

[Petunia Sprinkle]

The shorter cane seems to be working out well for him.

[GungHoGolf]

Jim Herman won using AE yesterday.

[Jagpilotohio]

All I know is that mark Sweeney is raking it in!! From aimpoint website......

_____________

 

 

Mr. Sweeney has limited availability for private lessons at the Waldorf Astoria Golf Club in Orlando, Florida, his rates are as follows:

 

$500 per hour for adults

 

$250 per hour for juniors

 

For more information email [email protected].

 

 

Yowwie!!! Not bad! And at the Waldorf Astoria no less....

[QMany]

Jim Herman won using AE yesterday.

Lydia Ko won the season's first major using AE as well.

[Tac]

Gotta love guys who haven't been taught something or tried it and believe it's ridiculous. "I don't know anything about it but I'm certainly able to criticize its validity!" Lol

 

Is Aimpoint the be all, end all putting solution? No, but it truly does help.

 

Your eyes don't always see the break but your feet don't lie.

 

Those who are skeptical should take the course. It's another tool in the box to use at your disposal.

[drewtaylor21]

Jim Herman won using AE yesterday.

Lydia Ko won the season's first major using AE as well.

 

Combined with Scott's two wins, APE is downright cleaning up this year!

[MadGolfer76]

Gotta love guys who haven't been taught something or tried it and believe it's ridiculous. "I don't know anything about it but I'm certainly able to criticize its validity!" Lol

 

Is Aimpoint the be all, end all putting solution? No, but it truly does help.

 

Your eyes don't always see the break but your feet don't lie.

 

Those who are skeptical should take the course. It's another tool in the box to use at your disposal.

 

Oh, dear. That first part isn't very insightful.

 

All a person need do to see validity is look at how many of the most accomplished golfer/putters actually use the approach, and as yet there is not much prevalence among those who statistically appear at the top in the putting stats. You may see more buy-in from folks here once someone uses it to run the tables, but right now AimPoint (from what I see) can only be characterized as being a stop-gap measure to bring mediocre putters who can't see the line into the range of "average."