Converting practice swing to real swing

[Krt22]

Bingo, your practice swing isn't the one hitting the little white ball. Golf is hard enough as it is, worrying about a practice swing while trying to hone a real swing seems like waging a two front war

[jurr80]

The idea is that (for higher handicaps, especially), all of the minutia that you can pick up on these forums will absolutely DESTROY the thing you should be practicing, which is getting from your back foot to your front foot and letting the weight of the club fling through the ball, which should not even seem “there”.

 

The guys that are pros started that way as children. They developed a feel for the center of the club face. They did it a million times and grooved a swing.

 

The moment you take that natural feel and add seven million swing thoughts derived from the minutia on this site is the minute you die as a golfer.

 

You will bow wrists and think about your left leg position. You won’t be able to begin enjoying golf because you will think that this BS will control your outcome, which is hitting decent golf shots.

 

Once your normal swing hits a ball flush with the least bit of consistency, then by all means work on fine mechanics.

 

That could take YEARS.

 

It’s okay. It’s golf. It’s not surgery. Your professional or personal life path does not get dictated by your golf swing.

 

Yet, that’s the pressure that we put on ourselves. We’ve been good at controlling outcomes forever. It’s the reason why we can afford to take up this crazy game.

 

Yet, golf is about letting go of that control while swinging to a target.

The ball is sitting there, begging you to take control.

 

The best “attempts at hitting the ball” end up in folly.

Just swing the weight of the club.

Do it for a while. Get decent at it.

 

Then all of the minutia can help you.

[Ghost of Snead]

 

Once your normal swing hits a ball flush with the least bit of consistency, then by all means work on fine mechanics.

 

 

Hitting a ball flush consistently is not possible with the "normal" swings of most. Mechanical changes are required to reach that plateau.

[oikos1]

Once your normal swing hits a ball flush with the least bit of consistency, then by all means work on fine mechanics.

 

 

Hitting a ball flush consistently is not possible with the "normal" swings of most. Mechanical changes are required to reach that plateau.

 

Exactly, Even the young phenoms eventually learn better mechanics to refine their swings in an effort to play at the highest level. Besides Lietzke, there aren't many pros who weren't/aren't always working on some mechanical aspect of their swing. And can we just come to agreement that there is absolutely zero value in the "goodness" of a practice swing. You get one swing per shot. That is the only swing you should spend time feeling good about.

[Conner Golf]

I take my practice swing with two main thoughts. My timing of square contact and the range of my arch bottom, usually at a lesser speed. I use my practice swing to process adjustments in my plane angle and bottom depth from the results(which when practiced can become quite clear). I love being able to adjust from a slightly off practice swing to hitting a perfectly straight or shaped shot.

[dap]

Go to a tour event and watch the players before they hit their shots. Their practice swings are just little half swing looseners. The only pro I have seen that try to mimic their actual swing with his practice swing is Davis Love iii early in his career. Even then he doesn't take a divot with his practice swing. That is another reason you cannot mimic your real swing with your practice one. You will be taking too many divots and damaging the course.

[Conner Golf]

Go to a tour event and watch the players before they hit their shots. Their practice swings are just little half swing looseners. The only pro I have seen that try to mimic their actual swing with his practice swing is Davis Love iii early in his career. Even then he doesn't take a divot with his practice swing. That is another reason you cannot mimic your real swing with your practice one. You will be taking too many divots and damaging the course.

With a teed up driver neither shot involves a divot. But even in a practice swing where a divot will be made in your real swing, swinging your practice swing above your real swing height can be transferred to your desired bottom. Swing four inches above for practice lower four inches for your shot.

[dap]

Go to a tour event and watch the players before they hit their shots. Their practice swings are just little half swing looseners. The only pro I have seen that try to mimic their actual swing with his practice swing is Davis Love iii early in his career. Even then he doesn't take a divot with his practice swing. That is another reason you cannot mimic your real swing with your practice one. You will be taking too many divots and damaging the course.

With a teed up driver neither shot involves a divot. But even in a practice swing where a divot will be made in your real swing, swinging your practice swing above your real swing height can be transferred to your desired bottom. Swing four inches above for practice lower four inches for your shot.

Swinging 4 inches above changes your swing already. You might need to stand more upright and that alone changes the plane. Maybe with driver you can but with irons you will need to make the same divot with your practice swing if it's going to be anywhere near the same as your real one.

 

 

[howaboutme]

Go to a tour event and watch the players before they hit their shots. Their practice swings are just little half swing looseners. The only pro I have seen that try to mimic their actual swing with his practice swing is Davis Love iii early in his career. Even then he doesn't take a divot with his practice swing. That is another reason you cannot mimic your real swing with your practice one. You will be taking too many divots and damaging the course.

 

I remember clearly someone doing a practice swing that included a divot everytime while watching the PNC Father/Son challenge. I can't, for the life of me, remember who it was but I believe it was one of the top teams as they were on TV a lot. I was thinking the same thing about ruining the grass.... Anyone remember who it was? It was the "son" of the team.

[dap]

Go to a tour event and watch the players before they hit their shots. Their practice swings are just little half swing looseners. The only pro I have seen that try to mimic their actual swing with his practice swing is Davis Love iii early in his career. Even then he doesn't take a divot with his practice swing. That is another reason you cannot mimic your real swing with your practice one. You will be taking too many divots and damaging the course.

 

I remember clearly someone doing a practice swing that included a divot everytime while watching the PNC Father/Son challenge. I can't, for the life of me, remember who it was but I believe it was one of the top teams as they were on TV a lot. I was thinking the same thing about ruining the grass.... Anyone remember who it was? It was the "son" of the team.

That's just poor etiquette.

[Krt22]

Go to a tour event and watch the players before they hit their shots. Their practice swings are just little half swing looseners. The only pro I have seen that try to mimic their actual swing with his practice swing is Davis Love iii early in his career. Even then he doesn't take a divot with his practice swing. That is another reason you cannot mimic your real swing with your practice one. You will be taking too many divots and damaging the course.

With a teed up driver neither shot involves a divot. But even in a practice swing where a divot will be made in your real swing, swinging your practice swing above your real swing height can be transferred to your desired bottom. Swing four inches above for practice lower four inches for your shot.

 

Huh? 4"?

 

1/2" is the difference between a pured wedge and skulling one 30yards long. You really expect an amatuer who already struggles with consistency to swing precisely 4" away from an imaginary object and then transfer that feel to an actual object, such that they move their impact precisely 4"?

 

If a golfer doesnt know their core flaw and how to correct for it on the course, that's asking for a big two way miss if they are trying to adjust their low point up and down on shot by shot basis, going by feedback from a previous shot and what happens in their practice swing. Fools gold

 

 

 

[Conner Golf]

Go to a tour event and watch the players before they hit their shots. Their practice swings are just little half swing looseners. The only pro I have seen that try to mimic their actual swing with his practice swing is Davis Love iii early in his career. Even then he doesn't take a divot with his practice swing. That is another reason you cannot mimic your real swing with your practice one. You will be taking too many divots and damaging the course.

With a teed up driver neither shot involves a divot. But even in a practice swing where a divot will be made in your real swing, swinging your practice swing above your real swing height can be transferred to your desired bottom. Swing four inches above for practice lower four inches for your shot.

 

Huh? 4"?

 

1/2" is the difference between a pured wedge and skulling one 30yards long. You really expect an amatuer who already struggles with consistency to swing precisely 4" away from an imaginary object and then transfer that feel to an actual object, such that they move their impact precisely 4"?

 

If a golfer doesnt know their core flaw and how to correct for it on the course, that's asking for a big two way miss if they are trying to adjust their low point up and down on shot by shot basis, going by feedback from a previous shot and what happens in their practice swing. Fools gold

I do believe this. With practice it is not that hard to do. The benefits of seeing your arch line just before your shot can help someone who is unsure of when and where their swing bottoms out. As I stated before I use my practice swing to help improve my shots.

[Krt22]

So not only are you hitting an imaginary object precisely 4" away, but you are also watching your club path as you swing and adjust accordingly?

 

That may work for you (somehow), likely a disaster for just about anyone else.

[Conner Golf]

It is practice, part of the learning (bettering) process. An actor practices to an imaginary audience our great military practices to an imaginary foe. I just do not know how this concept became lost to the game of golf.

[davep043]

It is practice, part of the learning (bettering) process. An actor practices to an imaginary audience our great military practices to an imaginary foe. I just do not know how this concept became lost to the game of golf.

I'm not sure I've ever seen an actor practice his line immediately before actually delivering it in front of his audience. Similarly, I don't see armed forced doing "practice" in a war zone. In both cases, their practice is done well before and far away from the actual action, just like a golfer's time on the range.

[Conner Golf]

It is practice, part of the learning (bettering) process. An actor practices to an imaginary audience our great military practices to an imaginary foe. I just do not know how this concept became lost to the game of golf.

I'm not sure I've ever seen an actor practice his line immediately before actually delivering it in front of his audience. Similarly, I don't see armed forced doing "practice" in a war zone. In both cases, their practice is done well before and far away from the actual action, just like a golfer's time on the range.

I guess you got me there. I should have stuck with the practice swings in wielding sports, tennis, baseball or wielding I sword, et cetera. Kickers in football and soccer take enough air kicks. I think in order to stay constantly limber and aimed right up to when they need it.

[Krt22]

It is practice, part of the learning (bettering) process. An actor practices to an imaginary audience our great military practices to an imaginary foe. I just do not know how this concept became lost to the game of golf.

 

Because hitting an imaginary object 4" away is not relevant practice.

[Mr. Grumpy]

I do think this is a drill tho.. Not really for finding the shallow point, but more for the take away and transition through,,, I think I am remembering it correctly

[Krt22]

Exaggerated rehearsals or pump drills to ingrain a feel are a totally different thing, those aren't practice swings and those actually have some value. Which is why you will see pros doing those (Rose, Noren, Rickie, etc) but rarely setup to take a full practice swing. I will even see some hackers post/hold their practice swing finish. 9 times out of 10 the real swing will be garbage

[Conner Golf]

Exaggerated rehearsals are practice so I can see there are benefits. But rehearsing off line may not work for every body. I prefer my practice swing to be, the on line swing I am going to swing. If I set up for my practice swing correctly, back and up to the same angle as my shot plane I can take my rehearsal shot, slide down the plane into my set up(I will know when to stop when my club face centers my ball)and go..

 

 

[Krt22]

Hard pass on all that.

[Conner Golf]

It is practice, part of the learning (bettering) process. An actor practices to an imaginary audience our great military practices to an imaginary foe. I just do not know how this concept became lost to the game of golf.

I'm not sure I've ever seen an actor practice his line immediately before actually delivering it in front of his audience. Similarly, I don't see armed forced doing "practice" in a war zone. In both cases, their practice is done well before and far away from the actual action, just like a golfer's time on the range.

I guess you got me there. I should have stuck with the practice swings in wielding sports, tennis, baseball or wielding I sword, et cetera. Kickers in football and soccer take enough air kicks. I think in order to stay constantly limber and aimed right up to when they need it.

 

Except in a real NFL game with the game on the line they have a real ball and a net that they kick into for practice, they don't air swing their leg at an imaginary ball .... the coach would lose his mind!

 

And baseball players take batting practice hitting a real ball with a real bat they don't imagine they have a bat and imagine a ball to hit. In the batters box they are warming up and trying to time the pitcher.

 

 

Nothing beats real practice that has all or most of the components that one uses in the actual game they play...that's the reason they practice using the actual equipment and not imaginary implements. You don't see Hockey Players practice skating drills on ice wearing sandals or shooting imaginary pucks at imaginary nets/goalies...geeeez!

After watching a little taped NFL football and baseball. I can verifiably state that when on the field (as we are in golf) punters and field goal kickers can and do take practice kicks(no ball) and when a batter is behind the plate the same...geeeeez yourself.

[oikos1]

Nothing like arguing what is done in other sports to justify what you do in a completely different sport.

 

Do what you want with a practice swing, just don't be this guy (at least not for very long in your golfing career):

 

[dap]

LOL

[Krt22]

Yeah time to check out of this thread. Some ridiculous stuff being discussed now.

 

 

[jbw749]

Yeah time to check out of this thread. Some ridiculous stuff being discussed now.

 

So I'm assuming you would not want to repeat what this thing is teaching you?

 

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[oikos1]