Rory doesn't need a seasoned caddie...or so he says

[QuigleyDU]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > > I don't see the value or need for using a seasoned caddie especially if a pro does his/her own calculations and assessments. But again, if the Pro is lazy or not confident about figuring yardage or reading greens and feels a bit entitled and wants his/her ego stroked whenever, having a seasoned caddie fits.

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> > > > I agree, I caddie is there to be a sounding board and a bit of a hype man. I think caddies like Steve Williams, or Joe Lacava sometimes get too much credit. Steve didnt swing the club a single time during Tigers run. And Joe didn't help Fred Couples win a single one of the Masters that he was close to winning after three rounds. I don't think being a caddie would be difficult. You just need to do your course homework, and know your players yardages. I think I could caddie for Rory and be just as successful as any other caddie out there.

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> > > > That being said, the way some pros treat their caddies is just wrong. There still should be some level of respect.

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> > > > All he really needs is this, and someone to carry the bag..

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> > > > https://web.skygolf.com/products/SkyCaddie-SX500

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> > > Agree with most of what you said. Anyone with reasonable attention to detail could caddie. Not sure knowing the player's yardages helps much though since the Pro often ignores what the Caddy thinks best. Except for Steve Stricker and his caddie wife who gets paid what she wants. There are some dynamics everyone can learn from. lol

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> > > As far as treatment is concerned, it's not something I opine about as it is a two-way street. Though the Caddie is the employee, he knows what he'll put up with and what he won't tolerate, just like employees with demanding managers in the corporate world. Playing that dynamic out in social media is nothing more than untested opinion, and wrong. Have a good day, off to the gym.

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> > Being demanding is one thing. Being demeaning, or degrading is another. Everyone should work off a certain level of respect. Other than that, hold whatever standard you want, and hope someone can live up to it.

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> > The reason I say knowing yardages is, I think it is part of the gig to make suggestions based on conditions. You can't make good suggestions if you don't know the players stats. It is ultimately the players call, but i don't think you can just tip the top of the bag at them and say "pick your poison".

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> If someone is demeaning or degrading an employee, it is NOT the responsibility of people on social media to react as if they were victimized and chastise the culprit on social media..boundaries of involvement exist for mature adults, plus all the facts are not known. It's up to the caddy or employee to determine what is or is not tolerable and work it out. As for club yardages, sure its good a caddy knows and suggests whatever if asked. The problem I see is the caddy has to be with the player for a long time to know the Pro typically has three distances per club and what they are. Knowing those subtleties takes a long time.

 

Oh, I completely agree. The caddie can also quit and say he is not working with said tour pro at any time.

[widow-maker]

His caddie was a good player who now has 2 years of experience out there on tour. He's no longer a novice. Whatever it is that Rory is expecting of him, he should now be proficient after 2 years on the job. DJ and Phil both have their brothers on their bags and nobody makes much of a deal about it. I wonder why it's a problem only for Rory?

[duffer987]

> @manku said:

> https://www.yahoo.com/news/golf-mcilroy-sees-no-superstar-130000225.html

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> Never knew that his buddy Harry was an excellent player...personally, I think having you're best friend as a caddie will not end well. In my experience, best not to mix business with family and friends...it often ends up getting really ugly.

 

So your experience as a professional golfer with one of your mates on the bag?

Because otherwise your experience means absolutely nothing.

[bscinstnct]

> @duffer987 said:

> > @manku said:

> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/golf-mcilroy-sees-no-superstar-130000225.html

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> > Never knew that his buddy Harry was an excellent player...personally, I think having you're best friend as a caddie will not end well. In my experience, best not to mix business with family and friends...it often ends up getting really ugly.

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> So your experience as a professional golfer with one of your mates on the bag?

> Because otherwise your experience means absolutely nothing.

 

Well, I guess we should all just keep quiet then ; )

 

Business and friends? I once lent a friend money and then ended up having to go to his house and take his TV to collect. He wasn’t pleased, of course, but I figured if he couldn’t pay me, he didn’t need to be watching TV, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[manku]

> @duffer987 said:

> > @manku said:

> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/golf-mcilroy-sees-no-superstar-130000225.html

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> > Never knew that his buddy Harry was an excellent player...personally, I think having you're best friend as a caddie will not end well. In my experience, best not to mix business with family and friends...it often ends up getting really ugly.

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> So your experience as a professional golfer with one of your mates on the bag?

> Because otherwise your experience means absolutely nothing

 

Thank you for your post. I'm not sure what it means...or if you understand the English language.

Being from a foreign country (based on your avatar), that is.