Visual evidence of hit impulse?

[Krt22]

Great info in here. Not just the subject matter, but clear example how us amateurs can get side tracked trying to fix effects instead of causes (myself included)

[FormerBigDaddy]

> @iteachgolf said:

> > @FormerBigDaddy said:

> > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > @b_f_c_99 said:

> > > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > > @TMoakley1547 said:

> > > > > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > > > Still need a lot more depth. Get hands over or even behind your heels at the top of the swing

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> > > > > > > And it is the same flaws as the short swing. Full swing just exaggerates your tendencies

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> > > > > > Dan question for you. His lack of depth at top of swing means his hands can only really move straight down, which contributes to the steepening of the shaft. If he had more depth, his hands could move more out, toward the ball, which would help lay the shaft down. Is this somewhat correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Correct

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> > > > Another question for you Dan, if you don't mind. The OP is really standing up alot through the shot. Looks like his head might raise 3+ inches. What is causing that? It doesn't matter what swing video he posted. It's the same on all of them.

> > >

> > > He’d break his wrist if he didn’t. Standing up is a shallowing move that he has to do to make up for the backswing issues

> >

> > So based on the last video... do you feel my main priority should be achieving more depth at the top?

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> As I stated above yes. Should be your only priority

 

Yes sir. Was just working with my little shaft plane do-hicky again. I’m assuming that if I can get the club head traveling just above that shaft line using my pivot only (right arm over left) for as long as possible I’ll be on the right track?

 

I notice that I do have a tendency to slightly lift my arms. But if I focus on my pivot and then hinging my right hand back to get the club up over my shoulder I can achieve more depth if I fight the urge to lift.

 

Am I on the right track?

 

[b_f_c_99]

> @iteachgolf said:

> > @b_f_c_99 said:

> > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > @TMoakley1547 said:

> > > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > Still need a lot more depth. Get hands over or even behind your heels at the top of the swing

> > > > >

> > > > > And it is the same flaws as the short swing. Full swing just exaggerates your tendencies

> > > >

> > > > Dan question for you. His lack of depth at top of swing means his hands can only really move straight down, which contributes to the steepening of the shaft. If he had more depth, his hands could move more out, toward the ball, which would help lay the shaft down. Is this somewhat correct?

> > >

> > > Correct

> >

> > Another question for you Dan, if you don't mind. The OP is really standing up alot through the shot. Looks like his head might raise 3+ inches. What is causing that? It doesn't matter what swing video he posted. It's the same on all of them.

>

> He’d break his wrist if he didn’t. Standing up is a shallowing move that he has to do to make up for the backswing issues

 

Thanks Dan, to follow up on that, and really don't feel obligated to answer! Is that all be caused by lack of depth? I get he would hit way behind the ball, I've seen this from lots of players. Always thought it was just how their athletic instinct works. Everyone has seen the guy with a decent looking practice swing, then you put a ball down and its like they become posessed. Just chalked it up to they just athletic subconscience just goes whacko.

[iteachgolf]

> @b_f_c_99 said:

> > @iteachgolf said:

> > > @b_f_c_99 said:

> > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > @TMoakley1547 said:

> > > > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > > Still need a lot more depth. Get hands over or even behind your heels at the top of the swing

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And it is the same flaws as the short swing. Full swing just exaggerates your tendencies

> > > > >

> > > > > Dan question for you. His lack of depth at top of swing means his hands can only really move straight down, which contributes to the steepening of the shaft. If he had more depth, his hands could move more out, toward the ball, which would help lay the shaft down. Is this somewhat correct?

> > > >

> > > > Correct

> > >

> > > Another question for you Dan, if you don't mind. The OP is really standing up alot through the shot. Looks like his head might raise 3+ inches. What is causing that? It doesn't matter what swing video he posted. It's the same on all of them.

> >

> > He’d break his wrist if he didn’t. Standing up is a shallowing move that he has to do to make up for the backswing issues

>

> Thanks Dan, to follow up on that, and really don't feel obligated to answer! Is that all be caused by lack of depth? I get he would hit way behind the ball, I've seen this from lots of players. Always thought it was just how their athletic instinct works. Everyone has seen the guy with a decent looking practice swing, then you put a ball down and its like they become posessed. Just chalked it up to they just athletic subconscience just goes whacko.

 

He wouldn’t hit it fat. He wouldn’t get it airborne. Divot would be forward and extremely deep.

 

Depth helps control arm rotation and handle depth vs clubhead depth affects almost everything.

[b_f_c_99]

> @iteachgolf said:

> > @b_f_c_99 said:

> > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > @b_f_c_99 said:

> > > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > > @TMoakley1547 said:

> > > > > > > @iteachgolf said:

> > > > > > > Still need a lot more depth. Get hands over or even behind your heels at the top of the swing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And it is the same flaws as the short swing. Full swing just exaggerates your tendencies

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dan question for you. His lack of depth at top of swing means his hands can only really move straight down, which contributes to the steepening of the shaft. If he had more depth, his hands could move more out, toward the ball, which would help lay the shaft down. Is this somewhat correct?

> > > > >

> > > > > Correct

> > > >

> > > > Another question for you Dan, if you don't mind. The OP is really standing up alot through the shot. Looks like his head might raise 3+ inches. What is causing that? It doesn't matter what swing video he posted. It's the same on all of them.

> > >

> > > He’d break his wrist if he didn’t. Standing up is a shallowing move that he has to do to make up for the backswing issues

> >

> > Thanks Dan, to follow up on that, and really don't feel obligated to answer! Is that all be caused by lack of depth? I get he would hit way behind the ball, I've seen this from lots of players. Always thought it was just how their athletic instinct works. Everyone has seen the guy with a decent looking practice swing, then you put a ball down and its like they become posessed. Just chalked it up to they just athletic subconscience just goes whacko.

>

> He wouldn’t hit it fat. He wouldn’t get it airborne. Divot would be forward and extremely deep.

>

> Depth helps control arm rotation and handle depth vs clubhead depth affects almost everything.

 

And thats' why I have a real job! I always figured that was going on to avoid hitting it fat and trying to 'push' the ball into the air!

[pingnewbie]

Touch the wall with your hands at the top. I'm working on this as well.

[Nickc]

"The keys to the effortless golf swing - curing your hit impulse in seven simple lessons" Michael Mcteigue.

Book short & sweet.

The video series of the seven lessons also on YouTube.

You just need to maybe forget all you have been trying and work through it almost as though you are building a new swing from scratch (though a lot of what is being taught actually aligns with a lot of other proponents of the golf swing).

[DevilDog]

Just from listening to my son's instructor, he had a bit of an over the top move, it was caused by his back shoulder staying high at transition. With good players the back shoulder, on a down the line view, looks like it starts down then around. When it stays high it forces the rear shoulder outward. Watch a Koepka video down the line to see what I mean

[chigolfer1]

> @Nickc said:

> "The keys to the effortless golf swing - curing your hit impulse in seven simple lessons" Michael Mcteigue.

> Book short & sweet.

> The video series of the seven lessons also on YouTube.

> You just need to maybe forget all you have been trying and work through it almost as though you are building a new swing from scratch (though a lot of what is being taught actually aligns with a lot of other proponents of the golf swing).

 

He doesn't need all that lol. Just work on more depth like Dan C. has said several times and go from there. He doesn't have a "hit impulse." He is swinging to the ball the only way he can from that backswing position.

[Nickc]

> @chigolfer1 said:

> > @Nickc said:

> > "The keys to the effortless golf swing - curing your hit impulse in seven simple lessons" Michael Mcteigue.

> > Book short & sweet.

> > The video series of the seven lessons also on YouTube.

> > You just need to maybe forget all you have been trying and work through it almost as though you are building a new swing from scratch (though a lot of what is being taught actually aligns with a lot of other proponents of the golf swing).

>

> He doesn't need all that lol. Just work on more depth like Dan C. has said several times and go from there. He doesn't have a "hit impulse." He is swinging to the ball the only way he can from that backswing position.

 

Must confess have not read the whole thread - but nevertheless my underlying point was that sometimes it maybe not a bad idea to go back to some basic principles if you are lost rather than trying to adjust what is not working.

But having not followed the whole thread will bow to your view that he just needs to in grain a little tweak to what he is doing.

[chigolfer1]

> @Nickc said:

> > @chigolfer1 said:

> > > @Nickc said:

> > > "The keys to the effortless golf swing - curing your hit impulse in seven simple lessons" Michael Mcteigue.

> > > Book short & sweet.

> > > The video series of the seven lessons also on YouTube.

> > > You just need to maybe forget all you have been trying and work through it almost as though you are building a new swing from scratch (though a lot of what is being taught actually aligns with a lot of other proponents of the golf swing).

> >

> > He doesn't need all that lol. Just work on more depth like Dan C. has said several times and go from there. He doesn't have a "hit impulse." He is swinging to the ball the only way he can from that backswing position.

>

> Must confess have not read the whole thread - but nevertheless my underlying point was that sometimes it maybe not a bad idea to go back to some basic principles if you are lost rather than trying to adjust what is not working.

> But having not followed the whole thread will bow to your view that he just needs to in grain a little tweak to what he is doing.

 

It's a three page thread, it's not like you have to wade through page after page to see what I'm referring to.

 

 

[FormerBigDaddy]

Surprised to see this thread pop back up. I’m definitely a believer that I need to continue to work on depth. I’ve been working a lot on 1/2 shots and it’s coming along but it’s going to take time. The biggest challenge for me is trusting my hands coming in early and working on better wrist hinge. I’ve been a forearm roller for a long time and this is very foreign to me.

[Nickc]

> @chigolfer1 said:

> > @Nickc said:

> > > @chigolfer1 said:

> > > > @Nickc said:

> > > > "The keys to the effortless golf swing - curing your hit impulse in seven simple lessons" Michael Mcteigue.

> > > > Book short & sweet.

> > > > The video series of the seven lessons also on YouTube.

> > > > You just need to maybe forget all you have been trying and work through it almost as though you are building a new swing from scratch (though a lot of what is being taught actually aligns with a lot of other proponents of the golf swing).

> > >

> > > He doesn't need all that lol. Just work on more depth like Dan C. has said several times and go from there. He doesn't have a "hit impulse." He is swinging to the ball the only way he can from that backswing position.

> >

> > Must confess have not read the whole thread - but nevertheless my underlying point was that sometimes it maybe not a bad idea to go back to some basic principles if you are lost rather than trying to adjust what is not working.

> > But having not followed the whole thread will bow to your view that he just needs to in grain a little tweak to what he is doing.

>

> It's a three page thread, it's not like you have to wade through page after page to see what I'm referring to.

>

>

 

I still may have posted the same seemingly controversial comment even if I had read it all - but now alas I will never know if I wouldn't have!

Tee hee!