Swing weight concerns

[Tingy]

So, Im waiting for my new Srixon ZX7/ZX5/ZXU combo set to arrive. 

Ordered with Modus3 Tour 120X, +0.5", MCC Plus4 std +2 layers of tape. 

Didn't know too much about swing weight before I placed the order. 

 

Knowing the ZX7 is D3 as standard, mine are going to be D6, unless Srixon does something to get the swing weight down to the standard D3. 

 

Can anyone tell me how Srixon is dealing with that? I wanna hear your experience with +0.5" vs. swing weight. 

 

Thanks. 

[Righty to Lefty]

3 swing weight points is nothing major really you'll be fine.  

[Tingy]

11 minutes ago, Righty to Lefty said:

3 swing weight points is nothing major really you'll be fine.  

I've seen several sites saying Rory and DJ is playing D4-D5 in their irons. Im NOT a strong golfer. Smooth swing tempo and about 87,5 mph 7 iron. 105-110 mph driver. 

So in that regard, it'll make no sense D6 will suit me. But we'll see.. 

[Righty to Lefty]

21 hours ago, Tingy said:

I've seen several sites saying Rory and DJ is playing D4-D5 in their irons. Im NOT a strong golfer. Smooth swing tempo and about 87,5 mph 7 iron. 105-110 mph driver. 

So in that regard, it'll make no sense D6 will suit me. But we'll see.. 

6 grams is 3 swingweight points...that is about the weight of a credit card. I'm sure you are strong enough to handle an extra 6 grams of weight Tingy!  Swing weight is a measure of how the weight is distributed along the club and not how much it weighs as that would be total weight. 

Edited May 21, 2021 by Righty to Lefty

[Tingy]

2 minutes ago, Righty to Lefty said:

6 grams is 3 swingweight points...that is about the weight of a credit card. I'm sure you are strong enough to handle and extra 6 grams of weight Tingy!  Swing weight is a measure of how the weight is distributed along the club and not how much it weighs as that would be total weight. 

I guess I will drown my concerns for a bit then. 🤐

[Soloman1]

Doesn't that depend on the credit limit of the card?

[Jwags]

Srixon could also have light heads for this very reason. Most companies have A-F in head weights. With A being the heaviest. Lots of guys want +1 inch +1-1/2 in sets so light heads allow you to achieve standard swing weight. 
 

Edited May 25, 2021 by Jwags

[Tingy]

30 minutes ago, Jwags said:

Srixon could also have light heads for this very reason. Most companies have A-F in head weights. With A being the heaviest. Lots of guys want +1 inch +1-1/2 in sets so light heads allow you to achieve standard swing weight. 
 

I don't know. Do you know how they typically adress it, if I didn't mentioned anything about swing weight when I made the order? 

 

Thanks. 

[Mookieb10]

In my eyes, the OP is right to be concerned. To me, D6 is quite different than D3, and I’m not exactly a pga level pro. I also think the guy who says they have 5 different weights, a-f, can possibly be over estimating the options. for example, Callaway instituted this new sw screw and that only comes at 3 different weights. If Callaway thinks it’s inefficient to make more than 3 different screws, than try forging 5 different weight heads. Usually it’s 2-3 different heads, or, like TM, make all you heads light a use tip weights on ever build short of +2”. 
 

so OP, unless you gwt a srixon employee, you’re gunna have to weigh them. If they are at D6 and they are too heavy, maybe you cut off 1/8” since srixon plays over standard anyways, or maybe you add heavier grips to get the sw down. I had to blindly figure my way through the process you’re going through at a massive expense. I hope they feel good to you, cause it can be a real pain if not. 

 

[Tingy]

On 5/29/2021 at 3:08 AM, Mookieb10 said:

In my eyes, the OP is right to be concerned. To me, D6 is quite different than D3, and I’m not exactly a pga level pro. I also think the guy who says they have 5 different weights, a-f, can possibly be over estimating the options. for example, Callaway instituted this new sw screw and that only comes at 3 different weights. If Callaway thinks it’s inefficient to make more than 3 different screws, than try forging 5 different weight heads. Usually it’s 2-3 different heads, or, like TM, make all you heads light a use tip weights on ever build short of +2”. 
 

so OP, unless you gwt a srixon employee, you’re gunna have to weigh them. If they are at D6 and they are too heavy, maybe you cut off 1/8” since srixon plays over standard anyways, or maybe you add heavier grips to get the sw down. I had to blindly figure my way through the process you’re going through at a massive expense. I hope they feel good to you, cause it can be a real pain if not. 

 

The irons felt way too heavy at +0.5". Also I wasn´t aware Srixon irons are about 0.25" longer than most other brands. 

So I decided to cut of the 0.5" and the weight and length feels much better now. 

So from experience I can tell that 3 swingweight points makes a huge difference. At least in this case 🙂

[ShortGolfer]

A counter balance weight can easily be added when the club is re-gripped to lower the swing weight.  No need to change the length or grip from what works best for you.

You may want to add a little too much and fine tune the club with lead tape.  

 

I'm just 5" 2" so I knew going in that standard clubs wouldn't work for me.  I learned by buying classic Callaway ladies clubs and cutting them down.  

Turns out that I need ladies flex so that worked out really well for me. Now I've been upgrading to more expensive clubs now that I know what I need.

 

 

[Awainer1]

They have weight sorted heads if you ordered from Srixon they will swingweight them to the listed specs.  The at home fix for this is to drill the hosel out to remove weight but if they’re not d3 when you get them I’d immediately send them back. 

Edited June 25, 2021 by Awainer1

[Noodler]

On 5/20/2021 at 2:43 AM, Righty to Lefty said:

3 swing weight points is nothing major really you'll be fine.  

 

On 5/20/2021 at 3:05 AM, Righty to Lefty said:

6 grams is 3 swingweight points...that is about the weight of a credit card. I'm sure you are strong enough to handle an extra 6 grams of weight Tingy!  Swing weight is a measure of how the weight is distributed along the club and not how much it weighs as that would be total weight. 

 

I can't leave this much misinformation just lying here...

 

3 swingweight points are significant for just about all golfers and 6g of weight at the head end of a golf club is a major difference in head weight.  You can't judge weight changes without considering the physics of MOI when that weight is placed at the other end of a long lever.

 

Increasing the length of irons 0.5" using standard weight heads results in some fairly heavy swinging clubs.  I wonder how the OP made out with their new clubs...

[Tdsjfb]

12 minutes ago, Noodler said:

 

 

I can't leave this much misinformation just lying here...

 

3 swingweight points are significant for just about all golfers and 6g of weight at the head end of a golf club is a major difference in head weight.  You can't judge weight changes without considering the physics of MOI when that weight is placed at the other end of a long lever.

 

Increasing the length of irons 0.5" using standard weight heads results in some fairly heavy swinging clubs.  I wonder how the OP made out with their new clubs...

Completely agree. So you wouldn't notice D2 to C9? Blind tested, my guess is that for those that play regularly, they would notice a 3 swing weight difference 10/10 times.

[Awainer1]

7 hours ago, Noodler said:

 

 

I can't leave this much misinformation just lying here...

 

3 swingweight points are significant for just about all golfers and 6g of weight at the head end of a golf club is a major difference in head weight.  You can't judge weight changes without considering the physics of MOI when that weight is placed at the other end of a long lever.

 

Increasing the length of irons 0.5" using standard weight heads results in some fairly heavy swinging clubs.  I wonder how the OP made out with their new clubs...

 

7 hours ago, Tdsjfb said:

Completely agree. So you wouldn't notice D2 to C9? Blind tested, my guess is that for those that play regularly, they would notice a 3 swing weight difference 10/10 times.

I guarantee if he ordered straight from Srixon then he got the stock swingweight. Like I said they have weight sorted heads. This is a non issue. 

[Righty to Lefty]

20 hours ago, Noodler said:

 

 

I can't leave this much misinformation just lying here...

 

3 swingweight points are significant for just about all golfers and 6g of weight at the head end of a golf club is a major difference in head weight.  You can't judge weight changes without considering the physics of MOI when that weight is placed at the other end of a long lever.

 

Increasing the length of irons 0.5" using standard weight heads results in some fairly heavy swinging clubs.  I wonder how the OP made out with their new clubs...

3 swing weight points isn't significant...unless it approaches a limit.  By that I mean that if it is near your max tolerance for swing weight then it is significant but if it isn't...then it is not and eventually its benefits will not be felt.  Case in point an Olympic weightlifter that has a max lift of 200 kilos.  If you make the lifter lift 100 kilos on one lift and then the next lift at 101.  That one kilo is insignificant.  However if you put 200 kilos on the bar and then on the next lift put 201 kilos on the bar...that 1 kilo is significant as it is the difference between success and failure.  6 grams of weight on a club that weighs hundreds of grams is not significant unless it approaches a limit. You may notice it...but eventually it will not be felt.  I have tested this myself and found that my swing weight tolerance occurred at F5.  I accidentally put 4 extra grams of hotmelt in my PW wedge (Hollow body golf club) and I instantly knew that it was too much.  Everything from D5 to F5 felt progressively better as I would make adjustments and then wait 3 months before increasing the swing weight to address exactly what I am describing to you and over time the swing weight increase would go back to feeling just like all the previous adjustments. Until I hit F5....I knew it was perfect....and when I went slightly heavier to F7 I immediately knew it was too much and my limit had been breached.  During club fitting swing weight and total weight limits should be exceeded and then dialed back to find perfect, then a baseline standard for future clubs has been truly created. 

[PDWALKER]

For every .5" you are looking at 2 swing weights. You are probably going to have them come out a little heavy but I would look to get them down to at least a D4. 

[CMZ24]

Does anyone know if the heads of srixon ZX7s are heavier than most other companies? Compared to mizuno for example.