Titleist CB’s. What year is the best?

[miles2go]

Probably been asked and answered in the annals of golfwrx, but thinking about picking up some CB’s. Seems like they are simply great clubs with consistent performance and feel. Never owned a set. Just wondering if anyone has a particular year preference or if they are all comparable for the average single digit player.  I have no problem with older models. 
Thanks. 

[R5Two]

620s are on fire right now but my personal favorite was the 695s 

[gents15]

No idea which are best but I have played both the 712s and the 716s. Prefer the 716s, but really liked both of them. 
 

The 716s and 718s have tungsten in the perimeter in 3-7 which they got rid of in the 620, so if you’d prefer a little more extra perimeter weight in the long irons go with the 716 or 718.

 

On a side note, I currently play a combo Cleveland 588 cb/mb set…the 588 CB is very similar to the Titleist CB in terms of shape and size…but the 588 cb is hands down the best feeling iron I’ve ever hit.  

[BCULAW]

2 hours ago, R5Two said:

620s are on fire right now but my personal favorite was the 695s 

Oooooohh!!!  Good call on the 695s!  They were really good!  I had some with the old RP Rifle 6.0s that were among my favorites. 
 

I’m still partial to the 620s, which gave me outstanding feel and turf interaction. Also liked the 714s. They are all nice, but those three stood out to me. 

[MelloYello]

22 hours ago, miles2go said:

Probably been asked and answered in the annals of golfwrx, but thinking about picking up some CB’s. Seems like they are simply great clubs with consistent performance and feel. Never owned a set. Just wondering if anyone has a particular year preference or if they are all comparable for the average single digit player.  I have no problem with older models. 
Thanks. 

 

Interesting question!

 

I highlighted "consistent performance and feel" because I think that's what the CB is supposed to do. It masks a lot of the possible resonance of the MB (which makes the CB feel more consistent shot-to-shot) but it's still a performance-oriented club. 

 

If you're thinking you need more forgiveness than the MB, you need to be looking T-series. The CB is always going to be an MB for someone who wants a bit more consistency in the flight and feel compared to what the MB provides. Zalatoris talked about the CB bringing his ball-flight down slightly compared with the MB, which spun fractionally more. No one's playing the CB for "forgiveness." That should be stated up front. 

 

So if you're asking which CB feels most consistent I would say the newest ones are great. No reason to go way back. I had the 716s which were more stable than the years immediately preceding them (710, 712, 714). The 716 had a small tungsten weight and a fairly large amount of perimeter weighting to dull the vibration and add that consistency in feel. The 716 had a much more rounded sole, too. But honestly, I never loved the 716. It was pretty ho-hum. 

 

IMHO, the new stuff is as good as anything they've done and probably a step up from the 700-series. So really, I'd say buy the newest you can afford. Even if you wanted an older set, good luck finding one in okay shape. Probably best to pony up for the newer stuff if you know that's what you want. 

 

All the above being said, I think you're crazy if you're letting feel alone make your decision. Stuff like the T100 is just too good to pass up and plenty of other OEMs (like Srixon!) are making what (IMHO) are better CB derivatives these days.

 

But hey, you asked about the Titleist CB! 🙂

 

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Edited August 9, 2023 by MelloYello

[bosgolfer]

Definitely 716’s 

[Pnwpingi210]

3 hours ago, MelloYello said:

 

Interesting question!

 

I highlighted "consistent performance and feel" because I think that's what the CB is supposed to do. It masks a lot of the possible resonance of the MB (which makes the CB feel more consistent shot-to-shot) but it's still a performance-oriented club. 

 

If you're thinking you need more forgiveness than the MB, you need to be looking T-series. The CB is always going to be an MB for someone who wants a bit more consistency in the flight and feel compared to what the MB provides. Zalatoris talked about the CB bringing his ball-flight down slightly compared with the MB, which spun fractionally more. No one's playing the CB for "forgiveness." That should be stated up front. 

 

So if you're asking which CB feels most consistent I would say the newest ones are great. No reason to go way back. I had the 716s which were more stable than the years immediately preceding them (710, 712, 714). The 716 had a small tungsten weight and a fairly large amount of perimeter weighting to dull the vibration and add that consistency in feel. The 716 had a much more rounded sole, too. But honestly, I never loved the 716. It was pretty ho-hum. 

 

IMHO, the new stuff is as good as anything they've done and probably a step up from the 700-series. So really, I'd say buy the newest you can afford. Even if you wanted an older set, good luck finding one is okay shape. Probably best to pony up for the newer stuff if you know that's what you want. 

 

All the above being said, I think you're crazy if you're letting feel alone make your decision. Stuff like the T100 is just too good to pass up and plenty of other OEMs (like Srixon!) are making what (IMHO) are better CB derivatives these days.

 

But hey, you asked about the Titleist CB! 🙂

 

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ive hit the 620mb side by side with the t100 now with the same shaft from the demo matrix.  Cb was better all around for my swing.

 

I think the t100 leans more toward an 620 mb comparison, with the t100 being a bit larger and having a lower cg to promote launch.

[MelloYello]

1 hour ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

ive hit the 620mb side by side with the t100 now with the same shaft from the demo matrix.  Cb was better all around for my swing.

 

I think the t100 leans more toward an 620 mb comparison, with the t100 being a bit larger and having a lower cg to promote launch.

 

Yeah, I wouldn't buy the CB, personally. If you want pure looks and feel the MB is king and the CB just won't deliver much more performance. The CB is more of a low-spin MB. 

 

I'd be all over the T100. I think they're plenty small while being shockingly easy to hit and real friendly. My Srixon Z-forged "blades" are larger than the T100. The idea that Titleist makes anything smaller than the T100 is crazy to me. 

 

The era of feel as king is dead IMHO. People should be buying irons on performance and I don't know anyone this side of the PGA Tour that wants lower spin with limited forgiveness in their irons. Seems like the worst combo for me. 

 

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Edited August 9, 2023 by MelloYello

[miles2go]

All great info. Seems like since the T series was released , the prior CB’s have become more reasonably priced on the secondary market. Price is important as it would be an experiment for me.  Makes me think there may be something special about the T100’s though. Might have to go hit them.  Tried the T200’s and they were great but pretty happy with my current iron’s which are similar.  Just looking for a cheap sports car to take for a spin once in awhile. 

[Pnwpingi210]

10 minutes ago, MelloYello said:

 

Yeah, I wouldn't buy the CB, personally. If you want pure looks and feel the MB is king and the CB just won't deliver much more performance. The CB is more of a low-spin MB. 

 

I'd be all over the T100. I think they're plenty small while being shockingly easy to hit and real friendly. My Srixon Z-forged "blades" are larger than the T100. The idea that Titleist makes anything smaller than the T100 is crazy to me. 

 

The era of feel as king is dead IMHO. People should be buying irons on performance and I don't know anyone this side of the PGA Tour that wants lower spin with limited forgiveness in their irons. Seems like the worst combo for me. 

 

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I didn’t see the extra foregivness from the t100.  They feel similar enough that’s it’s a wash.  So agree with you on feel, disagree on performance.

 

I will also add this is my experience with my swing dynamics.  Different strokes for different folks.

Edited August 9, 2023 by Pnwpingi210

[MelloYello]

18 hours ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

I didn’t see the extra foregivness from the t100.  They feel similar enough that’s it’s a wash.  So agree with you on feel, disagree on performance.

 

I will also add this is my experience with my swing dynamics.  Different strokes for different folks.

 

Forgiveness is over-rated in small-headed irons so I kind of agree. "Forgiveness" isn't why you would buy the CB or the T100. 

 

However, I do think the T100 launches noticeably higher. The CB being a "low-spin MB" is definitely the lowest-flighted of the trio of TItleist's Tour irons. 

[Pnwpingi210]

2 minutes ago, MelloYello said:

 

Forgiveness is over-rated in small-headed irons so I kind of agree. "Forgiveness" isn't why you would buy the CB or the T100. 

 

However, I do think the T100 launches noticeably higher. The CB being a "low-spin MB" is definitely the lowest-flighted of the trio of TItleist's Tour irons. 

That makes sense.  I deliver plenty of dynamic loft which is why I have no problems hitting it high or adding spin if I want.  

[wam78]

I grew up playing 962b’s, which is still one of the goat’s in my mind.  However, in more recent releases, 716’s were outstanding!  The 620’s are pretty sweet in their own right.  Beautiful profile!

[dwboston]

690.CB was a great iron.  I really liked the 695 CB's as well - those had strong lofts for their time (PW was 46*) - they looked great as well.

Edited August 10, 2023 by dwboston

[Nixhex524]

I am a 716 guy.  Had a long stint with those and played some good golf with them. 

 

The 620 are definitely on my radar though, they look fantastic and feel 1000 times better than the T100 IMO.  I just don't see the hype around the T100, I know Titleist wants it to be the flagship iron, but there are so many player CBs out there that top it.  With the forgiveness not being there, there's almost no reason anyone should play them over the T100.  Yes, I said it.  620 even have the pre-worn leading edge which is a really nice touch in any club.  T100s or 150 I can see a spot for, but no need for the T100 when Titleist has always developed a top notch CB.