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Good enough to get me off of a decade long Titleist train. I just got a Superdeep to compare head to head this afternoon. I'll post my thoughts after the round.

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Its another hot, low spin head, so with the right shaft for your swing, it has plenty of potential to be great. I have one on the way from Callaway myself.

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For me, the good ones were very good, but the bad ones were really bad. I generally draw/hook balls off of the tee and I have never hit as big of a slice as I did with the FT Tour.

I found the i15 with fade weighting to be better for me than the FT Tour with the open face.

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I picked up a FT-Tour at Golf Galaxy to take advantage of their Father's Day promotions. I got a 9.5* in a stiff VooDoo.

I had been playing a Adams 9015D 9.5*stiff and found that the shaft was causing some variations in the drives. Too soft. A project for the future is to re-shaft the Adams with a Blueboard.

I bagged the FT-Tour on a round Saturday and shot a very good score. Mostly due to the Scottie Cameron working on the putting green. In a on course comparison I would say that the distance is almost the same with maybe a whisper edge to the Adams but both very long. The dispersion was a different story with the FT-Tour being much more consistent. I would think that is due to the stock shaft in the Callaway. Now when the Adams is re-shafted that could be a major improvement but staying with the stock shafts, I'll have the FT-Tour in my bag.

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I was conviced by my local pro to try one out recently, having been a titleist guy and using a 905. I have to say its probably one of the best drivers out there at the moment, Callaway really do know how to do the whole composite material thing. While yardage on a normal shot is probably +10 yards over the 905, the FT is perfect for hitting high booming hooks - this shot has definatly given me +30 to +50 yards, its a shot i can't do with the 905. Definatly get one and get fitted for it.

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I found my ZL that played a 1/2" shorter to be just as long and more forgiving (the head was weighted heavier to allow for similar swingweights). They both had different shafts (ZL with Rombax Z vs FT with WB), so apples to apples wasn't possible; both were 8.5 degrees. The ZL was tipped some as well. Simply due to the forgiveness, especially on the toe side of the face, I kept the ZL and sold the FT Tour. I loved the look of the FT over the ZL, but my on-course results were better with the ZL.

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The FT Tour is great, I just hate the stock Voodoo. Because of $$, I can't afford to buy a brand new driver, then have to reshaft if it with something that I like a lot more, nor special order and again have to pay a fee for a different shaft that may or may not be more $$ in actuality.

The VR Tour was the pick for me. It feels great, sounds great, and has a much better stock PX shaft.

D - Tour Burner TP 9.5*/Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard 63g 

3W - 07 Burner TP TS/Mitsubishi Diamana Blueboard 73g

2h - Razr Tour/Aldila NV Hybrid 85

3h - Diablo Edge Tour/Motore Speeder Tour Spec 9.8 HB

5-7 - P790/KBS C-Taper 120

8-PW - P770/KBS C-Taper 120

50* - Nike Engage 

54* - Nike VR Forged 

60* - Nike VR Forged

P - Nike Method Origin B2-01 Naked

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Had it in the bag for the pat 6 weeks and love it! Came from the FT 9 Tour with Fubuki that was very straight, to the FT Tour that can be wayward and have picked up 20+ yards (not stock VooDoo). Played a very fast running course (in land links) and smashed one about 360 yards - green side trap (must for grabbed the down slope and the had 80 yards of run).

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My 8.5* FT Tour with Miyazaki Kusala Black is the best combination of distance and accuracy I've ever had. I have hit drivers a little further, and I have hit drivers a little straighter, but I've never hit anything that puts me this far off the tee and in the fairway on such a regular basis. I would say my average drive right now is about 285, and I'm hitting 10 fairways a round on average over the past 15-20 rounds. I can hit it high, hit it low into the wind, and I can hit cuts and draws on demand. The best thing about this combo for me is that the hard hook is no longer a concern. I absolutely LOVE this driver!

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PING G425 14.5*, Ventus Blue 8X
PING iCrossover 18*, Ping Tour 85X
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I've never been a Callaway fan, and I've especially never liked any composite offerings. However, I think the FT Tour is fantastic! I'm a high spin player despite a mere mortal's clubhead speed and the FT Tour reduces the spin giving me a more penetrating flight. I've also always preferred a solid sound and feel from a driver...I like a thwack not a tink, which the FT Tour delivers. For me the ball also comes off the face hot. The Voodoo shaft is take it or leave it for me, and I may reshaft it, but it's definitely a winner!

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[quote name='aplomb' date='23 June 2010 - 12:20 PM' timestamp='1277310029' post='2528154']
I've never been a Callaway fan, and I've especially never liked any composite offerings. However, I think the FT Tour is fantastic! I'm a high spin player despite a mere mortal's clubhead speed and the FT Tour reduces the spin giving me a more penetrating flight. I've also always preferred a solid sound and feel from a driver...I like a thwack not a tink, which the FT Tour delivers. For me the ball also comes off the face hot. The Voodoo shaft is take it or leave it for me, and I may reshaft it, but it's definitely a winner!
[/quote]

May I asked your previous driver and clubhead speed? I too am a high spin , lower speed guy who likes the solid sounding driver......supertri has been beaten out by 510 non tp 330cc head.......

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[quote name='Chappie' date='23 June 2010 - 12:05 AM' timestamp='1277265912' post='2527382']
The FT Tour is great, I just hate the stock Voodoo. Because of $, I can't afford to buy a brand new driver, then have to reshaft if it with something that I like a lot more, nor special order and again have to pay a fee for a different shaft that may or may not be more $ in actuality.

The VR Tour was the pick for me. It feels great, sounds great, and has a much better stock PX shaft.
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FYI for anyone else interested, the Matrix X-Con 5 and 6 are also stock shafts with no upcharge if you don't want the Voodoo. The X-Con 6 in X flex however, is backordered two weeks (I'm still waiting for mine). You either love or hate the Voodoo, I've gamed the XVS6, XVS7, and XPP7, and all have performed well for me, but something else to consider is that they now have almost no resale value.

Cobra King LTD 9*, Fujikura Ventus TR Red 6X
Cobra King Tec 17*, Fujikura Axiom 105S

Adams A12 19*, Diamana Thump X
TM TP MC/MB, Fujikura Axiom 105S 
Vokey 250.08, SM9 54-S & 60-V, DG S400
Toulon Palm Beach

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I have the Ft-Tour with the Matrix X-Con 6 and it is a cannon!!It took a few weeks for me to get used to the feel, but now there's nothing else on the market I would rather have.

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[size=3]Titleist TSI2 13.5 degree with Graphite Design Tour AD-HD7S
Callaway Paradym Heavenwood
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Titleist Vokey SM9 54 and 60 w/Nippon Pro Modus 120x
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It's a hell of a good driver, especially if the strength of your game is your driver. Very workable and long. You can curve it and adjust trajectory like no one's business. It took a lot to kick the 905R out of the bag but this one easily won. I'm apparently in the minority as far as shaft preference since I actually like the stock VS6.

As far as an NV shaft goes, it depends on your tempo. I found the NV too harsh and not smooth at all (I tried it in the F Speed Cobras from a few years ago). Since feel is this club's strength, I'd go with a smooth shaft i.e. Diamana Blue, Fubuki, etc. If you insist on the NV you may want to try the NV Voodoo (the green shaft that Adams is putting on most of their new stuff). Very smooth and low launching.

Hope that helps.

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[quote name='TMAG-FireMedic' date='23 June 2010 - 12:03 PM' timestamp='1277312595' post='2528219']
[quote name='aplomb' date='23 June 2010 - 12:20 PM' timestamp='1277310029' post='2528154']
I've never been a Callaway fan, and I've especially never liked any composite offerings. However, I think the FT Tour is fantastic! I'm a high spin player despite a mere mortal's clubhead speed and the FT Tour reduces the spin giving me a more penetrating flight. I've also always preferred a solid sound and feel from a driver...I like a thwack not a tink, which the FT Tour delivers. For me the ball also comes off the face hot. The Voodoo shaft is take it or leave it for me, and I may reshaft it, but it's definitely a winner!
[/quote]

May I asked your previous driver and clubhead speed? I too am a high spin , lower speed guy who likes the solid sounding driver......supertri has been beaten out by 510 non tp 330cc head.......
[/quote]

I could go on for a while about my rotation of drivers used recently but I'll give you the Reader's Digest version. My swingspeed varies too much...it ranges from 99 mph or so to 107 or 108 mph. My spin rate used to be ridiculous so I was using an 8 degree Ping G10 (digitaly lofted by Ping) with a VS Proto shaft, S flex. As I've continued to work with an instructor my spin rate is coming down as my clubhead delivery to the ball improves. So, I went up in loft to a G10 9 or 9.5 degree...I forget which, with the Prolaunch Red shaft, S flex. The flight was decent but the feel wasn't that great, probably the shaft. And, I still struggled to get my spin rate below 3000 rpm with a good lauch angle of about 12 degrees. I now have a 10 degree(digitally lofted by Ping)G15 that I ordered with a Project X 6.0 shaft. It was good but not great....again good launch angle but spin still a little above 3000 rpm. I continue to lose carry distance and roll with that spin rate. Currently to get my spin rate down to 2700 or better I have to make adjustments in my set up and hit the ball with a lower launch angle, about 8 degrees, which overall is not optimal. When I go after one and increase my ball speed my spin rate also increases negating any benefit of the increased ball speed. But, it all continues to get better little by little as I work with my instructor. I just reshafted the G15 with a Miyazaki Black S flex but I haven't tried it yet. ANYWAY, on a lark I picked up the FT Tour 10.5 with the Voodoo shaft. I had no expectations and tried it just for fun. Well, watta ya know my launch angle was good at about 12 degrees or so (it varies up and down a little of course, I'm not that consistent)and my spin rate fell to about 2700 to 2800 RPM from the Ping. As a bonus the club feels and sounds very solid and muted, and the ball feels to come off the face hot. Some who may prefer a more explosive soud may describe the FT Tour as too muted or dead, but I like the thwack. It of course is not as forgiving as the Ping, which you could hit anywhere on the face and get a good result, but it's not bad, especially for a "players" club, and not nearly as bad as some claim. I've caught a couple waaay out on the toe that turned out to be a very playable miss without too much loss in distance. I get the impression that it feels more unforgiving than it is due to the feedback it gives you. FWIW I have tried the Supertri and other current TM offerings including the Superdeep and I'm not impressed at all. None gave me very good numbers and they all sounded and felt like the clank of a tin can. That's just my perception though, if the TM works and sounds/feels good to another they should ignore me and play it! (I did love the 510 back in the day)I also have a tour issued J33P with a Bluboard X flex that I hit as good or better than anything else, and definitely straighter, but I continue to experiment as the Bridgestone's little head isn't that forgiving. I also tried the low spin highly touted Adams heads and didn't care for the sound or feel (again subjective and individual preference) and they were not as forgiving as the FT Tour. For now the FT Tour is a winner as it brings my spin rate down as good as any other club (including the Superdeep) and feels fantastic. Another thought or observation...even with my meager swing speed I sometimes get good results from X flex shafts as I have a quick tempo. I may experiment with more X shafts if I need to lower my spin rate more, but for now I'm making progress with swing improvements. Sorry for such a long reply, I hope it helps.

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[quote name='aplomb' date='26 June 2010 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1277562720' post='2537662']
[quote name='TMAG-FireMedic' date='23 June 2010 - 12:03 PM' timestamp='1277312595' post='2528219']
[quote name='aplomb' date='23 June 2010 - 12:20 PM' timestamp='1277310029' post='2528154']
I've never been a Callaway fan, and I've especially never liked any composite offerings. However, I think the FT Tour is fantastic! I'm a high spin player despite a mere mortal's clubhead speed and the FT Tour reduces the spin giving me a more penetrating flight. I've also always preferred a solid sound and feel from a driver...I like a thwack not a tink, which the FT Tour delivers. For me the ball also comes off the face hot. The Voodoo shaft is take it or leave it for me, and I may reshaft it, but it's definitely a winner!
[/quote]

May I asked your previous driver and clubhead speed? I too am a high spin , lower speed guy who likes the solid sounding driver......supertri has been beaten out by 510 non tp 330cc head.......
[/quote]

I could go on for a while about my rotation of drivers used recently but I'll give you the Reader's Digest version. My swingspeed varies too much...it ranges from 99 mph or so to 107 or 108 mph. My spin rate used to be ridiculous so I was using an 8 degree Ping G10 (digitaly lofted by Ping) with a VS Proto shaft, S flex. As I've continued to work with an instructor my spin rate is coming down as my clubhead delivery to the ball improves. So, I went up in loft to a G10 9 or 9.5 degree...I forget which, with the Prolaunch Red shaft, S flex. The flight was decent but the feel wasn't that great, probably the shaft. And, I still struggled to get my spin rate below 3000 rpm with a good lauch angle of about 12 degrees. I now have a 10 degree(digitally lofted by Ping)G15 that I ordered with a Project X 6.0 shaft. It was good but not great....again good launch angle but spin still a little above 3000 rpm. I continue to lose carry distance and roll with that spin rate. Currently to get my spin rate down to 2700 or better I have to make adjustments in my set up and hit the ball with a lower launch angle, about 8 degrees, which overall is not optimal. When I go after one and increase my ball speed my spin rate also increases negating any benefit of the increased ball speed. But, it all continues to get better little by little as I work with my instructor. I just reshafted the G15 with a Miyazaki Black S flex but I haven't tried it yet. ANYWAY, on a lark I picked up the FT Tour 10.5 with the Voodoo shaft. I had no expectations and tried it just for fun. Well, watta ya know my launch angle was good at about 12 degrees or so (it varies up and down a little of course, I'm not that consistent)and my spin rate fell to about 2700 to 2800 RPM from the Ping. As a bonus the club feels and sounds very solid and muted, and the ball feels to come off the face hot. Some who may prefer a more explosive soud may describe the FT Tour as too muted or dead, but I like the thwack. It of course is not as forgiving as the Ping, which you could hit anywhere on the face and get a good result, but it's not bad, especially for a "players" club, and not nearly as bad as some claim. I've caught a couple waaay out on the toe that turned out to be a very playable miss without too much loss in distance. I get the impression that it feels more unforgiving than it is due to the feedback it gives you. FWIW I have tried the Supertri and other current TM offerings including the Superdeep and I'm not impressed at all. None gave me very good numbers and they all sounded and felt like the clank of a tin can. That's just my perception though, if the TM works and sounds/feels good to another they should ignore me and play it! (I did love the 510 back in the day)I also have a tour issued J33P with a Bluboard X flex that I hit as good or better than anything else, and definitely straighter, but I continue to experiment as the Bridgestone's little head isn't that forgiving. I also tried the low spin highly touted Adams heads and didn't care for the sound or feel (again subjective and individual preference) and they were not as forgiving as the FT Tour. For now the FT Tour is a winner as it brings my spin rate down as good as any other club (including the Superdeep) and feels fantastic. Another thought or observation...even with my meager swing speed I sometimes get good results from X flex shafts as I have a quick tempo. I may experiment with more X shafts if I need to lower my spin rate more, but for now I'm making progress with swing improvements. Sorry for such a long reply, I hope it helps.
[/quote]


Tremendous response and thank you..........LM aren't my cup of tea.......being a ploddler ala Hale Irwin or Loren Roberts, I don't concern myself with raw distance.....I find a lot of fairways with most any driver.......the pleasure of strike so much more vital for my game.........actually my scoring has been better due to this pleasure principle......so to hear the ft tour is a solid, muted driver is good to hear

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[quote name='TMAG-FireMedic' date='26 June 2010 - 01:53 PM' timestamp='1277578422' post='2538297']
[quote name='aplomb' date='26 June 2010 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1277562720' post='2537662']
[quote name='TMAG-FireMedic' date='23 June 2010 - 12:03 PM' timestamp='1277312595' post='2528219']
[quote name='aplomb' date='23 June 2010 - 12:20 PM' timestamp='1277310029' post='2528154']
I've never been a Callaway fan, and I've especially never liked any composite offerings. However, I think the FT Tour is fantastic! I'm a high spin player despite a mere mortal's clubhead speed and the FT Tour reduces the spin giving me a more penetrating flight. I've also always preferred a solid sound and feel from a driver...I like a thwack not a tink, which the FT Tour delivers. For me the ball also comes off the face hot. The Voodoo shaft is take it or leave it for me, and I may reshaft it, but it's definitely a winner!
[/quote]

May I asked your previous driver and clubhead speed? I too am a high spin , lower speed guy who likes the solid sounding driver......supertri has been beaten out by 510 non tp 330cc head.......
[/quote]

I could go on for a while about my rotation of drivers used recently but I'll give you the Reader's Digest version. My swingspeed varies too much...it ranges from 99 mph or so to 107 or 108 mph. My spin rate used to be ridiculous so I was using an 8 degree Ping G10 (digitaly lofted by Ping) with a VS Proto shaft, S flex. As I've continued to work with an instructor my spin rate is coming down as my clubhead delivery to the ball improves. So, I went up in loft to a G10 9 or 9.5 degree...I forget which, with the Prolaunch Red shaft, S flex. The flight was decent but the feel wasn't that great, probably the shaft. And, I still struggled to get my spin rate below 3000 rpm with a good lauch angle of about 12 degrees. I now have a 10 degree(digitally lofted by Ping)G15 that I ordered with a Project X 6.0 shaft. It was good but not great....again good launch angle but spin still a little above 3000 rpm. I continue to lose carry distance and roll with that spin rate. Currently to get my spin rate down to 2700 or better I have to make adjustments in my set up and hit the ball with a lower launch angle, about 8 degrees, which overall is not optimal. When I go after one and increase my ball speed my spin rate also increases negating any benefit of the increased ball speed. But, it all continues to get better little by little as I work with my instructor. I just reshafted the G15 with a Miyazaki Black S flex but I haven't tried it yet. ANYWAY, on a lark I picked up the FT Tour 10.5 with the Voodoo shaft. I had no expectations and tried it just for fun. Well, watta ya know my launch angle was good at about 12 degrees or so (it varies up and down a little of course, I'm not that consistent)and my spin rate fell to about 2700 to 2800 RPM from the Ping. As a bonus the club feels and sounds very solid and muted, and the ball feels to come off the face hot. Some who may prefer a more explosive soud may describe the FT Tour as too muted or dead, but I like the thwack. It of course is not as forgiving as the Ping, which you could hit anywhere on the face and get a good result, but it's not bad, especially for a "players" club, and not nearly as bad as some claim. I've caught a couple waaay out on the toe that turned out to be a very playable miss without too much loss in distance. I get the impression that it feels more unforgiving than it is due to the feedback it gives you. FWIW I have tried the Supertri and other current TM offerings including the Superdeep and I'm not impressed at all. None gave me very good numbers and they all sounded and felt like the clank of a tin can. That's just my perception though, if the TM works and sounds/feels good to another they should ignore me and play it! (I did love the 510 back in the day)I also have a tour issued J33P with a Bluboard X flex that I hit as good or better than anything else, and definitely straighter, but I continue to experiment as the Bridgestone's little head isn't that forgiving. I also tried the low spin highly touted Adams heads and didn't care for the sound or feel (again subjective and individual preference) and they were not as forgiving as the FT Tour. For now the FT Tour is a winner as it brings my spin rate down as good as any other club (including the Superdeep) and feels fantastic. Another thought or observation...even with my meager swing speed I sometimes get good results from X flex shafts as I have a quick tempo. I may experiment with more X shafts if I need to lower my spin rate more, but for now I'm making progress with swing improvements. Sorry for such a long reply, I hope it helps.
[/quote]


Tremendous response and thank you..........LM aren't my cup of tea.......being a ploddler ala Hale Irwin or Loren Roberts, I don't concern myself with raw distance.....I find a lot of fairways with most any driver.......the pleasure of strike so much more vital for my game.........actually my scoring has been better due to this pleasure principle......so to hear the ft tour is a solid, muted driver is good to hear
[/quote]

You're welcome. I agree to a point about the launch monitors. I'll give up what may be the perfect spin and lauch angles to have a club that feels right and gives me confidence even at the expense of a few yards, especially as you say for the pleasure of what to me is a sweet feel and sound. However, I could obviously see on the course that I was losing way too much yardage due to the high spinning drives that would float and drop with no roll. So, to the lauch monitor I went to get better educated on what equipment may serve me, even as my swing improves. I won't give up the feel, sound, and look at address that inspires confidence, but if I can find that and then allow the lauch monitor to dial in the right loft and shaft then even better! In the end the ball flight needs to suit my eye on the course, but the technology of the launch monitor has been a useful tool to use among other factors. Anyway, solid and muted are terms I would definitely use to describe the FT Tour, and that coming from a non Callaway and anti composite player. Give it a try and good luck!

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