Wilson 8802 Putter questions

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JH,

I think it's clearly a strength rather than a weakness, right down to the Mills! p

[LYG]

Tom Watson used an 8813 in his first major, the 1975 British Open.

He used a Ping A Blade to win his first Masters (1977) then played a Ping PAL for the rest.

[super20dan]

his last pga victory was with a odessey version of the b60

[Medson]

bump?

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Got a question for you all. How are the production DBAP and early 8802 manufactured, cast, forged? Then chromed?
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[DLBullseye]

I wonder if the 84 refers to the 84 lumber co. that sponsered John Daly?

 

I watched Jack win the Western Open putting with a white John Reuter Bullseye

 

CHARLEY PENNA

Love those John Reuter Bullseyes. Jack named his White Fang.

[DLBullseye]

Bought a MacGregor VIP on Ebay, also bidding on a Wilson 8813 and maybe a SWIlson 1980 Geo Low.

[rex235]

Tom Watson used an 8813 in his first major, the 1975 British Open.

 

He used a Ping A Blade to win his first Masters (1977) then played a Ping PAL for the rest.

 

LYG-

 

What was the putter Watson used to beat Nicklaus in the duel in the sun at Turnberry in '77.... again?

 

The one where he made that 60+ footer?

 

It wasn't a PAL.

[rex235]

I wonder if the 84 refers to the 84 lumber co. that sponsered John Daly?

 

I watched Jack win the Western Open putting with a white John Reuter Bullseye

 

CHARLEY PENNA

Love those John Reuter Bullseyes. Jack named his White Fang.

 

 

The Acushnet Bullseye putter......Designed by John Reuter Jr in Sault Ste Marie MI in the late 1940s...

 

Won US Opens in 5 different decades.....

 

Jack Fleck '55, Gene Littler '61, Jack Nicklaus '67 , Johnny Miller '73 ,Hale Irwin '74 & '79, David Graham '81, and Tom Kite '92,

 

Steve Jones supposedly used a Titleist Bullseye Designed by Scotty Cameron, but seriously...

[rex235]

bump?

 

Got a question for you all. How are the production DBAP and early 8802 manufactured, cast, forged? Then chromed?

 

Medson-

 

There's an earlier thread on the Wilson DBAP/AP/8802 putter model which answers your questions.

[jmcf1949]

 

Don't know about the pencil shaft story as the ones I've seen are in the hosel designs and the 8802 needs a shaft over the hosel design.

 

I am going to comment on a couple of things on this thread

On the 8802 putters I do remember that they became popular in the 60s due to Mr. Palmer putting and winning with one. There was a rumor going around that the steel in a certain run of 8802s was special due to accident and those were sought after but there was no way to tell any of them apart. Honestly I don't know how true that was

The Nicklaus White Fang was actually a Macgregor putter similar to a Bullseye but with the toe turned up and pointed. It was coated with a rubber like material that peeled after a few rounds clanging around in the bag. I had one and it had a dead feel. To find one in original condition today is virtually impossible due to the white "paint" coming off. From what I have seen and heard serious Mac collectors with big bucks will pay dearly for them.

There were a bunch of 8802 look alikes including the Mac Ironmaster IM-5. I will say that I think the 8802 was patterened after the Tommy Armour putters of the 50s You also have some Tommy Armour Ironmaster types made in the 60s by the PGA golf company when they acquired the trademark. There is also a JNP5 that was made by Macgregor that is similar to the 8802 but the blade is shorter and more sharp at the toe

The Cleveland versions are nearly alike the 8802. The funny thing about the Clevlands is that a standard one with just Cleveland on the bottom go for $25 or so one of the same ones with Designed by Crenshaw on the bottom can command a price of up to $100 same putter different stamping

 

I've heard the Designed by Crenshaw's are better than the standard Designed by's. I don't know how or why. Just something I read on this site somewhere. Both came with the Head Speed shaft I believe.

I did not know what that shaft was called but I do have one of the Clevelands not the Crenshaw but we did have one at the old shop a few years back I putted with both and did not see any difference. We put the Crenshaw on auction because it was in better shape and I kept the other. The Crenshaw price shot up fast and we ended up selling it for $125. I don't think we had that much in it due to we bought it on a lot sale at a estate auction with about 100 other clubs

 

Cleveland and Crenshaw had a soft shaft developed for that putter, in an effort to rediscover the feel of the 8802.

 

BTW, Crenshaw putter with an 8802 that had an even softer Spalding pencil shaft in it - installed by his father.

 

Texsport

Wow bet his dad had to do some serious shimming to make the "pencil" shaft fit the 8802