Why were Spieth and Kaymer not on clock?

[isaacbm]

When did the NBA change to a 30 second shot clock?? Seems like that would have been on sport centre....

[zonadub]

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[quote name='zonadub' timestamp='1399868542' post='9277183'][quote name='JaNelson38' timestamp='1399856344' post='9276137']
These guys have no problem playing fast when trying to beat weather or darkness to finish out a round.

Slow play in the PGA Tour is getting no better because the Tour doesn't penalize anybody.
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What could be more fitting than Furyk having the horn blow as he was in the middle of his pre-putt fidgeting on 18!?[/quote]

Do they wait to blow the horn until after a player has finished his shot? I would hope to get a replay if that happened to me on 18.

The Tour isn't going to penalize any player in the last few groups in contention on tough stretches like the green mile or 16-18 at Sawgrass during a final round. But what Furyk did on 18 was about as bad as I've ever seen. I'm surprised he made it. That pre-shot routine would mess me up.
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He must have re-aligned his ball half a dozen times for the 4 footer on 17. But at least he made it.

[tembolo1284]

Def slow as hell. Must be leaving snail splooge over his tracks.

[mr_divots]

Television golf will go faster when there are so few viewers, the networks mandate the coverage ends at 5PM no matter what.

[bruinsPATSirish]

I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...

[Upgrayedd]

I find it hilarious that the guy with the Five Hour Energy Drink hat is the slowest player on the course. I turn it to something else when Furyk is putting. [i]Let's go, while we're young![/i] [/Al Czervik]

[PuttLeftHitRight]

[quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399926641' post='9281313']
I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...
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this topic is about Saturday. Guess you didn't read the OP

[bruinsPATSirish]

Lol

They were both slow rounds filled with practice swings and indecision. It's championship golf, they aren't going to randomly pick one of the years biggest events and hit the final group with a slow play penalty. If they get decide to actually start enforcing slow play with stroke penalties it won't be at a tournament like The Players.

[bruinsPATSirish]

[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399942776' post='9282999'][quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399926641' post='9281313']
I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...
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this topic is about Saturday. Guess you didn't read the OP[/quote]

Your OP says nothing about what day it was. Please continue

[PuttLeftHitRight]

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[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399942776' post='9282999'][quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399926641' post='9281313']
I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...
[/quote]

this topic is about Saturday. Guess you didn't read the OP[/quote]

Your OP says nothing about what day it was. Please continue
[/quote]

What day was Henley in the 2nd to last group? Not Sunday. Also how could I have posted this topic before the final round even occurred? Common sense please...

[bruinsPATSirish]

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[quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399943115' post='9283041']
[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399942776' post='9282999'][quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399926641' post='9281313']
I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...
[/quote]

this topic is about Saturday. Guess you didn't read the OP[/quote]

Your OP says nothing about what day it was. Please continue
[/quote]

What day was Henley in the 2nd to last group? Not Sunday. Also how could I have posted this topic before the final round even occurred? Common sense please...
[/quote]

You're disregarding the point of my post which is still on topic regarding the topic being discussed. They simply are not going to give penalty strokes to the final pairings at a huge tournament like that. It just simply isn't going to happen. If the Tour decides to strengthen their stance and start dropping strokes on players who are playing slow and falling out of position it will begin at an event of lower popularity and importance, that is a guarantee.

[threejack-o]

[quote name='isaacbm' timestamp='1399877360' post='9277465']
When did the NBA change to a 30 second shot clock?? Seems like that would have been on sport centre....
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Right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

[Prof3ssor]

Anyone happen to catch Furyk on the 18th after the rain delay lining up his 3 footer. Oy vey!!

[Poor Posture]

If you're into speed - why watch a golf tournament? Doing so makes me think you just like living in a world of anger and bitterness.

[cxx]

Seems like a lot of soup Nazis around here. Why not set the pace at 2:00 per 18 and make them run. 5-6 miles in 2:00, they won't even have to run unless they stop to take a shot. Won't fix your weekend round anyway.

[nichho]

[quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399944280' post='9283163']
[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399943757' post='9283109']
[quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399943115' post='9283041']
[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399942776' post='9282999'][quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399926641' post='9281313']
I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...
[/quote]

this topic is about Saturday. Guess you didn't read the OP[/quote]

Your OP says nothing about what day it was. Please continue
[/quote]

What day was Henley in the 2nd to last group? Not Sunday. Also how could I have posted this topic before the final round even occurred? Common sense please...
[/quote]

You're disregarding the point of my post which is still on topic regarding the topic being discussed. They simply are not going to give penalty strokes to the final pairings at a huge tournament like that. It just simply isn't going to happen. If the Tour decides to strengthen their stance and start dropping strokes on players who are playing slow and falling out of position it will begin at an event of lower popularity and importance, that is a guarantee.
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Sorry but your still missing the point. This whole thread is just another opportunity for him to have a pop at Spieth. This thread should have died a death last week.

[North Texas]

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[quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399944280' post='9283163']
[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399943757' post='9283109']
[quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399943115' post='9283041']
[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399942776' post='9282999'][quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399926641' post='9281313']
I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...
[/quote]

this topic is about Saturday. Guess you didn't read the OP[/quote]

Your OP says nothing about what day it was. Please continue
[/quote]

What day was Henley in the 2nd to last group? Not Sunday. Also how could I have posted this topic before the final round even occurred? Common sense please...
[/quote]

You're disregarding the point of my post which is still on topic regarding the topic being discussed. They simply are not going to give penalty strokes to the final pairings at a huge tournament like that. It just simply isn't going to happen. If the Tour decides to strengthen their stance and start dropping strokes on players who are playing slow and falling out of position it will begin at an event of lower popularity and importance, that is a guarantee.
[/quote]

Sorry but your still missing the point. This whole thread is just another opportunity for him to have a pop at Spieth. This thread should have died a death last week.
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Bingo!

[bruinsPATSirish]

[quote name='nichho' timestamp='1400181931' post='9303067'][quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399944280' post='9283163']
[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399943757' post='9283109']
[quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399943115' post='9283041']
[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399942776' post='9282999'][quote name='bruinsPATSirish' timestamp='1399926641' post='9281313']
I dislike slow play as much as the next guy BUT Sunday evening with The Players Championship on the line in the final group is not the day they decide to drop the hammer on slow play stroke penalties.

Now Thursday afternoon at the HP Byron Nelson could be a good time to start and throw around some penalties...
[/quote]

this topic is about Saturday. Guess you didn't read the OP[/quote]

Your OP says nothing about what day it was. Please continue
[/quote]

What day was Henley in the 2nd to last group? Not Sunday. Also how could I have posted this topic before the final round even occurred? Common sense please...
[/quote]

You're disregarding the point of my post which is still on topic regarding the topic being discussed. They simply are not going to give penalty strokes to the final pairings at a huge tournament like that. It just simply isn't going to happen. If the Tour decides to strengthen their stance and start dropping strokes on players who are playing slow and falling out of position it will begin at an event of lower popularity and importance, that is a guarantee.
[/quote]

Sorry but your still missing the point. This whole thread is just another opportunity for him to have a pop at Spieth. This thread should have died a death last week.[/quote]

Lock her up boys!

[teckneeklyperfect]

I have no issue with it. Golf is golf, it is not basketball, football , soccer, whatever, yada yada yada. Wanna play speed golf in your own play , thats fine. If we wanna tighten the screws down till we have cookie cutter robots playing ( which we are starting to see), then we will really see viewers exiting. ummm, IMO

[tatertot]

Patrick Cantlay once finished a round before he started.

True story.

[esketores]

I find it interesting the LPGA does MUCH better at policing slow play.

[Sean2]

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I find it interesting the LPGA does MUCH better at policing slow play.
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That's because they enforce it and aren't afraid to penalize players.

[esketores]

[quote name='Sean2' timestamp='1400190828' post='9303959']
[quote name='esketores' timestamp='1400189625' post='9303859']
I find it interesting the LPGA does MUCH better at policing slow play.
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That's because they enforce it and aren't afraid to penalize players.
[/quote]

And for some reason I'm watching the LPGA more and more. Specifically why I have not a clue. Might be the prima donna factor that has crept into the PGA.

[super20dan]

[quote name='zonadub' timestamp='1399868542' post='9277183']
[quote name='JaNelson38' timestamp='1399856344' post='9276137']
These guys have no problem playing fast when trying to beat weather or darkness to finish out a round.

Slow play in the PGA Tour is getting no better because the Tour doesn't penalize anybody.
[/quote]

What could be more fitting than Furyk having the horn blow as he was in the middle of his pre-putt fidgeting on 18!?
[/quote]and johnny miller calling him out for it

[Sean2]

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[quote name='Sean2' timestamp='1400190828' post='9303959']
[quote name='esketores' timestamp='1400189625' post='9303859']
I find it interesting the LPGA does MUCH better at policing slow play.
[/quote]

That's because they enforce it and aren't afraid to penalize players.
[/quote]

And for some reason I'm watching the LPGA more and more. Specifically why I have not a clue. Might be the prima donna factor that has crept into the PGA.
[/quote]

They DO seem to interact with the fans more. And, they are fun to watch.

[gmangolf]

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[quote name='esketores' timestamp='1400191087' post='9303991']
[quote name='Sean2' timestamp='1400190828' post='9303959']
[quote name='esketores' timestamp='1400189625' post='9303859']
I find it interesting the LPGA does MUCH better at policing slow play.
[/quote]

That's because they enforce it and aren't afraid to penalize players.
[/quote]

And for some reason I'm watching the LPGA more and more. Specifically why I have not a clue. Might be the prima donna factor that has crept into the PGA.
[/quote]

They DO seem to interact with the fans more. And, they are fun to watch.
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They are playing some really good golf too. It helps that some of the top American players are having good years too. I hope the back to back US Open thing doesn't blow up in the LPGA's face. There are so many factors that could affect the final scores but for some if there is a noticeable difference in scoring, it'll be used to knock the women's game down a few notches. Would love to see the exact opposite.

[Mookie94]

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[quote name='Sean2' timestamp='1400204350' post='9305349']
[quote name='esketores' timestamp='1400191087' post='9303991']
[quote name='Sean2' timestamp='1400190828' post='9303959']
[quote name='esketores' timestamp='1400189625' post='9303859']
I find it interesting the LPGA does MUCH better at policing slow play.
[/quote]

That's because they enforce it and aren't afraid to penalize players.
[/quote]

And for some reason I'm watching the LPGA more and more. Specifically why I have not a clue. Might be the prima donna factor that has crept into the PGA.
[/quote]

They DO seem to interact with the fans more. And, they are fun to watch.
[/quote]

They are playing some really good golf too. It helps that some of the top American players are having good years too. I hope the back to back US Open thing doesn't blow up in the LPGA's face. There are so many factors that could affect the final scores but for some if there is a noticeable difference in scoring, it'll be used to knock the women's game down a few notches. Would love to see the exact opposite.
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if the opposite was exactly what you got with the differences in setup.

[ThominOH]

[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399819521' post='9273089']
Not to mention Spieth's 3rd on 18 took over 10 minutes. PGA needs to get this crap under control or they will lose all their viewers.
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Exactly.. talk about a 40 or 50 second rule...... OMG.. There were shots after shots that Spieth was taking 2 minutes on.. Kevin Na looked like a cheetah compared to the final grouping.. LOL So much for the "RULES ARE RULES" people.. they conveniently put on blinders.. LOL

[robopz]

PGA Tour has a thing called "time par" that is set for every course and it's set on hole by hole intervals after an analysis of each hole. So it's not necessarily the same time even front nine to back nine, much less week to week. But the rule is 2 parts. First is playing within "time par", and ONLY if they are outside of that does the amount they are behind the group ahead come into play. I don't know the facts.. but if Spieth/Kaymer were within "time par", then it wouldn't have mattered if they were 3 holes behind... they wouldn't be put on the clock.

As for Spieth/Kaymer, If the Tour's not gonna ignore the rules for Tiger... I sincerely doubt the Tour is going ignore the pace of play rules for those two. Remember the WGC Bridgestone showdown between Padraig and Tiger? They were no further behind that year than Spieth and Kaymer were at this year's players, but TW/PH were outside of "time par" and put on the clock going into #16 (which IMO significantly threw Padraig off his game)

[monkeynaut]

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[quote name='PuttLeftHitRight' timestamp='1399819521' post='9273089']
Not to mention Spieth's 3rd on 18 took over 10 minutes. PGA needs to get this crap under control or they will lose all their viewers.
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Exactly.. talk about a 40 or 50 second rule...... OMG.. There were shots after shots that Spieth was taking 2 minutes on.. Kevin Na looked like a cheetah compared to the final grouping.. LOL So much for the "RULES ARE RULES" people.. they conveniently put on blinders.. LOL
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The Three Second Rule always applies.