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Interesting show so far. Taker and Kane carted out like sacks of taters. Hmm...

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[quote name='TheGameChanger' timestamp='1445828336' post='12506556']First time for awhile I watched a WWE PPV.I liked the ending. Very interested in where this goes. I'm still suprised Bray hasn't held the WWE Title.[/quote]
Has Bray held a title period? He should have at least had the U.S. Or IC title.

The ending could set up a cool SS match. There's 4 Wyatts. Undertaker and Kane teamed up recently at a house show. They only need two more partners.
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I was thinking maybe Taker joins the Wyatt Family as the new Leader and turns heel. I'm still holding out hope for Taker v Sting.
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I think Sting is done. He got too banged up at NOC although you never know. Still a long time to WM.

Last nights show was actually decent. I liked the tournament/fatal 4 way for no. 1 contender. I still think Raw has to do away with the random 6 man tag team matches. And Ive said it before, they desperately need some new tag teams. All they have right now is New Day and the Dudleyz. No one really cares about PTP, Lucha, or anyone else. Time to call up some from NXT or go with a couple random pairings. New Day is gold right now though. I already miss Xavier and the trombone.

Wondering who is going to be Kane and Taker's partners for SVS. It appears as though Reigns is going to fight Rollins. Wonder if Ambrose will step up. Im hoping no though and they get some fresh people for this story.

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Never understood why they killed the tag team division as it seems to really be a hit at TV, live events, and PPVs.

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Never understood why they killed the tag team division as it seems to really be a hit at TV, live events, and PPVs.
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I used to love the tag team division. The great old teams like Demolition, Strike Force, The Rockers, Road Dogg/BA Billy Gunn, Legion of Doom, Steiners, Hardy's, Edge/Christian, even Scotty 2 Hotty/Rikishi. They used to put on great matches. What I have seen from the Vaudevillians I have liked. I love their gimmick. If WWE doesnt screw them up when they get to main roster they could be a good fun team for a while.

New Day is absolute gold. The Dudleyz are fun also but there is just no one even close to their levels.

Was anyone else hoping that Big E and Kofi were gonna have to fight each other last night?

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I thought it was very ballsy to have Roman get #1 contender, when he is only 80% over and Rollins is an Indie legend. Really interested to see how this feud goes and Roman gets treated in each city

Crowd yesterday loved it, he got major cheers. Maybe it is his time

I'm a big Reigns fan, he's earned it with great performances.

Thought it was telling that they made KO look good again too basically having him finish 2nd. I guess he is getting the backstage support too

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[quote name='dan360' timestamp='1445964212' post='12513400']
Never understood why they killed the tag team division as it seems to really be a hit at TV, live events, and PPVs.
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I used to love the tag team division. The great old teams like Demolition, Strike Force, The Rockers, Road Dogg/BA Billy Gunn, Legion of Doom, Steiners, Hardy's, Edge/Christian, even Scotty 2 Hotty/Rikishi. They used to put on great matches. What I have seen from the Vaudevillians I have liked. I love their gimmick. If WWE doesnt screw them up when they get to main roster they could be a good fun team for a while.

New Day is absolute gold. The Dudleyz are fun also but there is just no one even close to their levels.

Was anyone else hoping that Big E and Kofi were gonna have to fight each other last night?
[/quote]

TNA had a great tag division years ago. Beer Money,Team 3D and The Motor City Machine Guns.

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[quote name='dan360' timestamp='1445964212' post='12513400']
Never understood why they killed the tag team division as it seems to really be a hit at TV, live events, and PPVs.
[/quote]

I used to love the tag team division. The great old teams like Demolition, Strike Force, The Rockers, Road Dogg/BA Billy Gunn, Legion of Doom, Steiners, Hardy's, Edge/Christian, even Scotty 2 Hotty/Rikishi. They used to put on great matches. What I have seen from the Vaudevillians I have liked. I love their gimmick. If WWE doesnt screw them up when they get to main roster they could be a good fun team for a while.

New Day is absolute gold. The Dudleyz are fun also but there is just no one even close to their levels.

Was anyone else hoping that Big E and Kofi were gonna have to fight each other last night?
[/quote]

TNA had a great tag division years ago. Beer Money,Team 3D and The Motor City Machine Guns.[/quote]
TNA had the tag title series between the Dudleys, the Hardys, and the Wolves. Every match was awesome. WWE needs another big team or two, but could develop something like that to get the fans really interested.

I think the Wolves are the best tag team in wrestling right now. New Day is really good too. I'm not big on the Young Bucks. For what I've seen of their matches...they don't really love up to the insider hype put upon them.

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[quote name='shakey' timestamp='1446000837' post='12516672']
[quote name='TheGameChanger' timestamp='1446000147' post='12516620'][quote name='blaird' timestamp='1445966601' post='12513608']
[quote name='dan360' timestamp='1445964212' post='12513400']
Never understood why they killed the tag team division as it seems to really be a hit at TV, live events, and PPVs.
[/quote]

I used to love the tag team division. The great old teams like Demolition, Strike Force, The Rockers, Road Dogg/BA Billy Gunn, Legion of Doom, Steiners, Hardy's, Edge/Christian, even Scotty 2 Hotty/Rikishi. They used to put on great matches. What I have seen from the Vaudevillians I have liked. I love their gimmick. If WWE doesnt screw them up when they get to main roster they could be a good fun team for a while.

New Day is absolute gold. The Dudleyz are fun also but there is just no one even close to their levels.

Was anyone else hoping that Big E and Kofi were gonna have to fight each other last night?
[/quote]

TNA had a great tag division years ago. Beer Money,Team 3D and The Motor City Machine Guns.[/quote]
TNA had the tag title series between the Dudleys, the Hardys, and the Wolves. Every match was awesome. WWE needs another big team or two, but could develop something like that to get the fans really interested.

I think the Wolves are the best tag team in wrestling right now. New Day is really good too. I'm not big on the Young Bucks. For what I've seen of their matches...they don't really love up to the insider hype put upon them.
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I'm not huge on The Wolves. The Young Bucks are a fun tag team they love a superkick.

IMO A short term fix for WWE is to reform The Awesome Truth and Sandow and Cody.

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For the WWE network guys who watch NXT...what happened to the Ascension? Old write-ups made them out to be really good when on NXT. On the main roster they've sucked. Was it just the initial crowds poor reaction to them?

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For the WWE network guys who watch NXT...what happened to the Ascension? Old write-ups made them out to be really good when on NXT. On the main roster they've sucked. Was it just the initial crowds poor reaction to them?
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Everything Ive read on them talks about how when they came to the main roster everyone looked at them like LOD rip offs and their "welcome to the wasteland" thing never panned out with fans. Their first few weeks on the main roster they were dominant and destroyed teams. Now they are sidekicks to stardust and hardly wrestle. I also just read that the Vaudevillians lost their belts to some team in NXT. Maybe they are about to get bumped up.

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I just think most real "gimmick driven" characters don't work on the main roster. Frankly, the NXT fans kind of suck. They go crazy for everything because they think that makes them "smart" fans for loving NXT. Watch a Bayley match, she clotheslines someone and the fans yell "this is awesome" or "this is wrestling"...meanwhile Roman Reigns jumps over the top rope onto people outside the ring on WWE, or goes through a table with Bray at a PPV and fans yell "boring"

The fans in NXT love everyone so its hard to say what works and what doesn't. They love everything and everyone because they think loving NXT makes them smart fans.

The reason the divas have been so great is their characters are just exaggerated versions of themselves. Becky is just Becky, Paige is Paige...etc...they have little gimmicks (Becky is wild!) but nothing major. Every diva is basically like Kevin Owens, just themselves, but exaggerated a bit

Guys like Tyler Breeze, the Ascension, Bo Dallas....these guys didn't have a chance.

To sell a character you have to be REALLY good. Like Bray Wyatt...or my boy Cody Rhodes!

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[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1446084979' post='12521672']
I just think most real "gimmick driven" characters don't work on the main roster. Frankly, the NXT fans kind of suck. They go crazy for everything because they think that makes them "smart" fans for loving NXT. Watch a Bayley match, she clotheslines someone and the fans yell "this is awesome" or "this is wrestling"...meanwhile Roman Reigns jumps over the top rope onto people outside the ring on WWE, or goes through a table with Bray at a PPV and fans yell "boring"

The fans in NXT love everyone so its hard to say what works and what doesn't. They love everything and everyone because they think loving NXT makes them smart fans.

The reason the divas have been so great is their characters are just exaggerated versions of themselves. Becky is just Becky, Paige is Paige...etc...they have little gimmicks (Becky is wild!) but nothing major. Every diva is basically like Kevin Owens, just themselves, but exaggerated a bit

Guys like Tyler Breeze, the Ascension, Bo Dallas....these guys didn't have a chance.

To sell a character you have to be REALLY good. Like Bray Wyatt...or [b]my boy Cody Rhodes![/b]
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I hate the Stardust character. Waste of Cody's talent.

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Paige's stockings. Yum.

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Didn't expect the Uso's back last night. I was thinking "Here we go...more Dudleys vs the New Day" in the elimination match.

(I missed some of Raw...Dudleys might have wrestled earlier and I didn't know).

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Paige...yum

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Didn't expect the Uso's back last night. I was thinking "Here we go...more Dudleys vs the New Day" in the elimination match.

(I missed some of Raw...Dudleys might have wrestled earlier and I didn't know).

[quote name='dan360' timestamp='1446519632' post='12543910']Paige's stockings. Yum.[/quote]
Paige...yum
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I got home late and fast forwarded thru most of the show. I dont think they were on last night. Nice to see the Usos back. Tag Team division needs some help.

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Last match was a let down. Could've been better. Should've been better.

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WWE is interesting for no other reason then Paige's shirts.

Which lately have been more....revealing

Day 1 of the roman/Seth feud went by without Roman getting attacked by a fan. So they got that going for them

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[quote name='MtlJeff' timestamp='1446570493' post='12546094']
WWE is interesting for no other reason then Paige's shirts.

Which lately have been more....revealing

Day 1 of the roman/Seth feud went by without Roman getting attacked by a fan. So they got that going for them
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Is it just me or is she looking a little more...ummmm..."enhanced"?? I dont really remember noticing it before maybe Im just now noticing.

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Rollins shredded every ligament in his knee in Ireland and is out 6-9 months. New champ to be crowned
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That's crappy luck.

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So this is going to be very, very interesting...

Reigns is clearly "the guy" now. But the thing is that it's so obvious that im sure WWE is concerned that crowning him at Survivor Series would be too predictable, and the last thing they want is their new marquee guy getting boo'd upon winning the title. So the question is do they pass him up and let him win the title at a different time? Common suggestions would be to turn Dean Ambrose heel and have him cost Roman somehow, leading to some kind of triple threat match or something later where the outcome could be a little more jaded. Or they could give the belt to Sheamus (a great angle would be Sheamus tapping out immediately in his first match, only to claim the MITB later after his competitors have gone through multiple matches, it would be a true heel thing to do)...and then have Roman take it off Sheamus at Rumble, because people don't love Sheamus he would for sure get over

I'm sure WWE will debate this very seriously. The plan will 100% be to get the belt to Roman as best as they can, while making him look strong and getting cheers while doing so...it will be very interesting to see how they do this.

Complicating matters is the fact that Roman was already reportedly bypassed once, at Wrestlemania earlier this year, where apparently he was supposed to win the belt until WWE called an audible that night and gave it to Rollins instead, which apparently caused the A'noie family to go berserk. If he gets bypassed again (especially for former stablemate Ambrose) it would be another slap in the face to Reigns

I wonder if maybe the best thing to do is just bite the bullet and give it to him ASAP. For better or worse....hell, have Lesnar in the tournament and do the job for him in the finals. Go all in on Roman i say.

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Also interesting will be the trickle down effect. Orton is out, Cena on sabbatical, Bryan out, now Rollins out....

Sami Zayn has been cleared to wrestle again. Would be interesting to see if he gets called up now rather then pit stop in NXT, or if they fast-track Balor too....they are going to need bodies

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Sucks about Rollins.

It would be a good time to bring back Daniel Bryan even if on a limited basis.

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Give Bray the belt
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This.

Let that heel stable work like the dirty ones of old for a bit. Money is always better when the baby face chases the heel champ. Dusty and Flair proved that for a long time.

Bray can rassle, tell a story in the ring, AND work the mic, and it would set the stage for some awesome matches against Reigns and other guys who need a little more help getting over as legit.

Imagine the promo Bray could cut after getting the belt about all these guys dropping like roadkill....and he followed the buzzards on sister Abigail's will to pick at the carcasses and rule over what is left of the WWE.

"He's got the whole world....in his hands". Those were awesome vignettes.

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[quote name='TheGameChanger' timestamp='1446780976' post='12559734']
Give Bray the belt
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This.

Let that heel stable work like the dirty ones of old for a bit. Money is always better when the baby face chases the heel champ. Dusty and Flair proved that for a long time.

Bray can rassle, tell a story in the ring, AND work the mic, and it would set the stage for some awesome matches against Reigns and other guys who need a little more help getting over as legit.

Imagine the promo Bray could cut after getting the belt about all these guys dropping like roadkill....and he followed the buzzards on sister Abigail's will to pick at the carcasses and rule over what is left of the WWE.

"He's got the whole world....in his hands". Those were awesome vignettes.
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I Would love Bray vs Taker for Title at Wrestlemania. Taker wins the belt one last time and retires.

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      Sepp Straka - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Patrick Rodgers - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Brendon Todd - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Denny McCarthy - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Corey Conners - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Chase Johnson - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tommy Fleetwood - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Matt Fitzpatrick - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Si Woo Kim - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Viktor Hovland - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Wyndham Clark - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Cam Davis - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Nick Taylor - WITB - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Ben Baller WITB update (New putter, driver, hybrid and shafts) – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      New Vortex Golf rangefinder - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Fujikura Ventus shaft - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods & TaylorMade "Sun Day Red" apparel launch event, product photos – 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods Sun Day Red golf shoes - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Aretera shafts - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      New Toulon putters - 2024 Genesis Invitational
      Tiger Woods' new white "Sun Day Red" golf shoe prototypes – 2024 Genesis Invitational
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put and questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #1
      2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Monday #2
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Ben Taylor - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Garrick Higgo - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Billy Horschel - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Justin Lower - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Lanto Griffin - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bud Cauley - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Corbin Burnes (2021 NL Cy Young) - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Charley Hoffman - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Nico Echavarria - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Victor Perez - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sami Valimaki - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ryo Hisatsune - WITB - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Jake Knapp's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      New Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Tyler Duncan's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Greyson Sigg's custom Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Sunjae Im's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Ping's Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Vincent Whaley's custom Cameron - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Odyssey Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Super Stroke custom grips - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Cameron putters - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Zac Blair's custom Cameron putter - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
      Bettinardi Waste Management putter covers - 2024 Waste Management Phoenix Open
       
       
       
       
       
       

       
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    • 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to Photos
      Please put and questions or comments here
       
       
       
       
       
      General Albums
       
      2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Tuesday #1
       
       
       
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Justin Thomas - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nick Hardy - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Seamus Power - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Hadwin - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Kurt Kitayama - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Byeong Hun An - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nicolai Hojgaard - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Sam Burns - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Brandon Wu - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      JT Poston - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Nick Dunlap - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Alex Smalley - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Pau Gasol WITB (2x NBA Champion, 6x All-Star) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Josh Allen WITB (NFL Quarterback, Buffalo Bills) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Matt Kuchar - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      JJ Spaun - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Jordan Spieth - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Svensson - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Adam Scott (mini) - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Taylor Moore - WITB - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Ping putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      TaylorMade putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Pebble Beach Golf Links (holes 7 & 8) – 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Odyssey putters - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Lucas Glover going to test black Srixon ZX5 & ZX7 irons - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Justin Thomas wrist training aid - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Stephen Sweeney's Putting Ballistic putting training aid - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
      Chris Kirk club changes - 2024 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
       
       
       
       
       
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